Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
18 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
To say US has culpability in the attacks = immediate campaign suicide (Original Post) Godhumor Nov 2015 OP
The US does not have culpability in the attacks in Paris BainsBane Nov 2015 #1
You've read the same posts in GDP I have Godhumor Nov 2015 #2
Actually, no BainsBane Nov 2015 #4
Based on the post few minutes, I think I might need to adopt your strategy Godhumor Nov 2015 #13
We practically singlehandedly created them whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #3
maybe maybe not hill2016 Nov 2015 #5
Keep your facts to yourself!! Juicy_Bellows Nov 2015 #7
That word doesn't mean what you think it does. BainsBane Nov 2015 #10
Pretty sure keep means to retain something. nt. Juicy_Bellows Nov 2015 #11
How did we single handedly create them? BainsBane Nov 2015 #9
But they should. nt artislife Nov 2015 #6
Telling the 100% truth about lots of things would be campaign suicide. Juicy_Bellows Nov 2015 #8
It is kind of sad though... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #12
Yes artislife Nov 2015 #16
It can be explained but not in a two minute sound bite./nt DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #17
Campaign Suicide - Like opposing a sitting Democratic president OutNow Nov 2015 #14
Not for the democratic nomination it wouldn't be! We still appreciate the truth. reformist2 Nov 2015 #15
It absolutely would be. A very large portion of the electorate would turn on an individual who did t Godhumor Nov 2015 #18

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
1. The US does not have culpability in the attacks in Paris
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 04:47 PM
Nov 2015

No more than the Soviet Union does for collapsing. Historical factors leading to the emergence of a movement is not the same as culpability. That is akin to arguing that the assassin of Archduke Ferdinand was responsible for the Holocaust.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
2. You've read the same posts in GDP I have
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 04:49 PM
Nov 2015

Sometimes these things need to be stated clearly and concisely.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
4. Actually, no
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 04:53 PM
Nov 2015

I don't. A glance is enough to prove it a waste of time. I will instead make a point of reading articles by experts in foreign policy.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
13. Based on the post few minutes, I think I might need to adopt your strategy
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 05:55 PM
Nov 2015

This place, sometimes...

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
8. Telling the 100% truth about lots of things would be campaign suicide.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 04:56 PM
Nov 2015

People still love folklore and myths so while they're still buying it, they'll keep selling it.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
12. It is kind of sad though...
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 05:23 PM
Nov 2015

Those in the Arab world have legitimate grievances. Anybody with a pulse knows that. On the other hand, the shedding of innocent blood is never justified.

It sounds like a cliche but we need to find the moderate forces for peace and work with them.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
16. Yes
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 07:52 PM
Nov 2015

Seeing them as equals, seeing their humanity. The Arab world has birthed a lot of pain, but no more than any other. I just remember a documentary that was made afte 9/11 and an Arab man, standing in the rubble of war in his home asking where were the tears of Americans for their dead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2015

This is the news of the world that we, as a whole, do not cry over.

OutNow

(864 posts)
14. Campaign Suicide - Like opposing a sitting Democratic president
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 06:58 PM
Nov 2015

I remember when LBJ launched the war on poverty and pushed hard to get the Voting Rights Act and 6the Civil Rights Act passed in a reluctant congress. And then a sitting Senator decided to run against him in the primary. Eugene McCarthy was vilified. He was committing campaign suicide by telling the truth about the Vietnam War. His supporters were gassed and beaten on the streets of Chicago. His motives were challenged. The thing is; he was right in 1968. Later it came to light that the Token Gulf Incident that led directly to the US escalation in Vietnam never happened. The Pentagon Papers released by Daniel Ellsberg proved that our involvement was based on lies and fantastic theory of the domino effect. Etc.

Eugene McCarthy was right to run for President and his campaign was based on the truth. He committed campaign suicide by sticking to the truth. And he is remembered as a hero of the left.

Remind you of anyone?

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
18. It absolutely would be. A very large portion of the electorate would turn on an individual who did t
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 07:59 PM
Nov 2015

GDP is in no way representative of the voting majority.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»To say US has culpability...