2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTo say US has culpability in the attacks = immediate campaign suicide
None of the candidates will do it. None.
Nor will any accuse another of being a causing factor. That would also effectively end his or her run.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)No more than the Soviet Union does for collapsing. Historical factors leading to the emergence of a movement is not the same as culpability. That is akin to arguing that the assassin of Archduke Ferdinand was responsible for the Holocaust.
Godhumor
(6,437 posts)Sometimes these things need to be stated clearly and concisely.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)I don't. A glance is enough to prove it a waste of time. I will instead make a point of reading articles by experts in foreign policy.
Godhumor
(6,437 posts)This place, sometimes...
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)so...
hill2016
(1,772 posts)but like the OP says, if you say that on stage your campaign is cooked
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)BainsBane
(53,032 posts)Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)BainsBane
(53,032 posts)I await your substantive analysis.
artislife
(9,497 posts)Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)People still love folklore and myths so while they're still buying it, they'll keep selling it.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Those in the Arab world have legitimate grievances. Anybody with a pulse knows that. On the other hand, the shedding of innocent blood is never justified.
It sounds like a cliche but we need to find the moderate forces for peace and work with them.
artislife
(9,497 posts)Seeing them as equals, seeing their humanity. The Arab world has birthed a lot of pain, but no more than any other. I just remember a documentary that was made afte 9/11 and an Arab man, standing in the rubble of war in his home asking where were the tears of Americans for their dead.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2015
This is the news of the world that we, as a whole, do not cry over.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)OutNow
(864 posts)I remember when LBJ launched the war on poverty and pushed hard to get the Voting Rights Act and 6the Civil Rights Act passed in a reluctant congress. And then a sitting Senator decided to run against him in the primary. Eugene McCarthy was vilified. He was committing campaign suicide by telling the truth about the Vietnam War. His supporters were gassed and beaten on the streets of Chicago. His motives were challenged. The thing is; he was right in 1968. Later it came to light that the Token Gulf Incident that led directly to the US escalation in Vietnam never happened. The Pentagon Papers released by Daniel Ellsberg proved that our involvement was based on lies and fantastic theory of the domino effect. Etc.
Eugene McCarthy was right to run for President and his campaign was based on the truth. He committed campaign suicide by sticking to the truth. And he is remembered as a hero of the left.
Remind you of anyone?
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Godhumor
(6,437 posts)GDP is in no way representative of the voting majority.