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RandySF

(58,884 posts)
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 06:00 PM Nov 2015

Democrats Return to Hillary Clinton

Heading into the second Democratic presidential debate, Hillary Clinton seems to be winning her party back.

Polls taken in the last two weeks show Clinton widening her lead over Bernie Sanders, as she’s used sterling performances in the first Democratic debate and a marathon session before Congress to blunt the momentum Sanders had seized over the summer. When the two meet Saturday night in Iowa, the pressure this time will be on Sanders: Can he sharpen his contrast with Clinton without veering into the kind of negative attacks that he repeatedly promised to avoid?

Clinton has benefitted from a number of developments in the last month—and not all of them her own doing. Vice President Joe Biden’s decision not to seek the nomination deprived establishment-minded Democrats of another alternative to the former secretary of state. And the dubious choice of House Republicans on the Benghazi committee to have her testify for 11 hours—while harping on emails from Sidney Blumenthal—played to her advantage by allowing her campaign to portray her appearance as one of resilience and grace under fire rather than the long overdue reckoning for a dithering diplomat.

Still, Clinton deserves some of the credit. Her campaign was understandably mocked when it informed The New York Times that Clinton would suddenly become more spontaneous, warm, and funny. But the plan seems to have been executed well. Her appearances on late-night talk shows have been filled with smiles and not-too-cringe-worthy jokes, and despite getting lower ratings, Clinton’s cameo on Saturday Night Live won stronger reviews than did Donald Trump's recent hosting gig. When Clinton has stumbled, such as when she laughed in response to a man saying he wanted to “strangle” Carly Fiorina, it has been overshadowed by news from the increasingly bizarre race on the Republican side. On the whole, a more joyful Clinton has replaced the halting, defensive candidate of the spring and early summer.


http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/the-democrats-return-to-hillary-clinton-ahead-of-second-primary-debate/415893/

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riversedge

(70,239 posts)
2. Dems have come to see Hillary as intelligent, strong and willing to adjust as
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 06:04 PM
Nov 2015

new facts and information becomes available

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
5. She is running this campaign very well. First she gathered a hard working team, they planned and
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 06:14 PM
Nov 2015

Are executing a winning strategy. She went on a listening tour, gathered information and then she started giving her agenda. She still takes time to listen. She is doing great.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
7. I hope she goes after the GOPU.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 06:34 PM
Nov 2015
It’s easy to imagine Clinton having ready a more-in-sorrow-than-in-anger reply for any sharp words that Sanders directs her way in Saturday’s debate.



As I have said her and her husband are the greatest counter punchers since Gentleman Gene Tunney and the Brown Bomber:







Will she take on Sanders as she did in October, or will she focus her attacks on the Republicans she hopes to face a year from now?


I hope she goes after the GOPU.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
13. Ad hominem attacks, the last resort of the person who has nothing
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 07:00 PM
Nov 2015

Bernie is polling at his all time high and rising.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
14. If it's so funny why won't one person take my wager.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 07:10 PM
Nov 2015

If the VT independent loses the primary I will give away the $500. 00 I won to charity. I am not interested in filthy lucre or pecuniary gain. If Bernie wins I will give the person who takes the wager $500.00 to do with as he or she pleases.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
16. Neither can I but $500.00 to charity is a good thing.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 07:13 PM
Nov 2015

My gf gives 10% of her salary to charity, like the Bible says.




Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
17. I'm getting a little tired of hearing about this in a vacuum
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:07 PM
Nov 2015

2016 Campaign Advertising
http://www.p2016.org/ads1/paidads.html

Hillary for America
"Together" (Nov. 3, 2015 - TV ad, IA and NH) >
"The Same" (Oct. 26, 2015 - TV ad, IA and NH) >
"Admits It" (Oct. 6, 2015 - TV ad, national cable) >
"Overnight" (Sept. 28, 2015 - TV ad, IA and NH) >
"Get Ahead" (Sept. 25, 2015 - TV ad, IA and NH) >
"Every Child" (Sept. 13, 2015 - TV ad, IA and NH) >
"Stretched" (Sept. 9, 2015 - TV ad, IA and NH) >
"Reshuffle" (Aug. 19, 2015 - TV ad, IA and NH) >
"Family Strong" (Aug. 4, 2015 - TV ad, IA and NH) >
"Dorothy" (Aug. 4, 2015 - TV ad, IA and NH) >

pro-Clinton: Priorities USA
"Games" (announced Oct. 21, 2015 - TV ad, cable in IA, NH, SC, NV and DC) >

Verses:
Bernie 2016
"Real Change" (released Nov. 1, 2015 - TV ad, IA and NH) >

Hmm

Money spent on ads (only to mid Sept - I'm sure it's worse now)



http://time.com/4067965/hillary-clinton-campaign-ads/

The Clinton campaign has bought and aired nearly 5,500 TV ads this year through Monday targeting voters in the early presidential caucus and primary states of Iowa and New Hampshire, according to a Center for Public Integrity analysis of data from Kantar Media/CMAG, an advertising tracking firm.

Such a number accounts for nearly one in four TV ads aired so far during the 2016 presidential race by any source, Democrat or Republican.


Bernie's just spent his first $2 mil on ads this months - 10 months after Clinton started - that ran the first 10 days of this month in NH & IA. You look on the date of Hillary's adds - big push since August in the same two states IA & NH.

These people are not all entirely stupid. They spend gobs of money on ads because they feel ads influence voters.

So there's a case to be made that she's buying the nomination or she's certainly buying a few points because it's a close to a one way conversation without Bernie.

She knows Bernie has to win NH & IA so she's trying to bury him there.

What are YOU Bernie supporters prepared to do about it? If he's going to have a chance, you have to help fight back.

He's got a good story but with her ads, everybody's talking Hillary in the states that matter most right now.
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