NY Times: Poll Watch: Overseas Elections Offer Warnings for U.S. Pollsters

[LiberalElite]

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/11/10/poll-watch-overseas-elections-offer-warnings-for-u-s-pollsters/

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Pre-election polls in numerous countries this year have widely missed their marks, often by underestimating support for candidates on the ideological fringes. The polling failures in countries like Britain, Poland and Israel point to technical issues that could well foreshadow polling problems in the United States, many analysts believe.

“The industry has a collective failure problem,” said John Curtice, the president of the British Polling Council and a professor of politics at the University of Strathclyde in Glasgow. Partly this is the result of changing methodologies. “It’s now a mix of random-digit dialing — that is, telephone polls — and Internet-based polls based on recruited panels,” he said. Both modes present potential problems.
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[PatrickforO]

1. I've been saying this all along.

The pundits and pollsters are in for a surprise.

[in_cog_ni_to]

2. No kidding?! They also under poll Millennials deliberately to skew the numbers they do have.

The Corporate Owned pollster polls aren't even close to reality and the Corporate Owned MSM is going to have egg on its face when Bernie wins Iowa and NH. I can't wait to watch the spin.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[GoneFishin]

3. I think they have shifted from measuring opinions to attempting to shape opinions. I take all

corporate sources of information with a grain of salt.

[Dustlawyer]

5. Just like experts in a legal case, it depends on what side is paying for the poll.

It's not like this is a new science. They can make their polls very accurate if they choose to.

[jeff47]

4. Wait...you mean excluding everyone under 26 might skew the result??

Who could'a thought!!!

(I eagerly await the post from someone claiming such people never vote, so I can yet again post the demographics from the 2012 and 2008 election. Obama lost both if you don't count "the kids&quot

[ejbr]

6. However

do any of these countries have unverifiable voting machines that have been known to switch votes so that any polling may be moot like we do?


With a media and a populace who don't seem to give a fuck?

[YOHABLO]

7. Major steals in Kentucky and Ohio, most recently, makes me feel like the game is over. We're screwed

[GoneFishin]

9. Could be. If no insiders grow a conscience and a spine to speak up we are screwed. I hope it's

not too late. But it looks pretty bad.

[Codeine]

8. Well, either the pollsters are right and I'll get

Hillary for my next president, or they'll be wrong and Bernie will be my next president.

It's a good problem to have.