Only one candidate on the stage tonight committed to not raising taxes on middle-class families:

[riversedge]

People needed to hear this --and Hillary told them.


Brian Fallon ‏@brianefallon 21m21 minutes ago

Only one candidate on the stage tonight committed to not raising taxes on middle-class families: @HillaryClinton. #DemDebate

[MohRokTah]

1. Excellent, the Middle Class IS the economy

Keeping money in the pockets of the Middle Class is the most important economic move to make for the entire economy.

[Akamai]

2. I think that if people have more money in their pockets, they

would be willing to pay more in taxes.

If someone who generally earned 7 dollars an hour could have her his pay raised to 15 dollars an hour, almost certainly they would be happy to pay more in taxes.

[yeoman6987]

3. Oh sure. When they find out that EIC is no longer qualified

That they are in a higher tax bracket. No. I don't think that at all.

[Bread and Circus]

5. Totally agree... peasants would way rather make less per hour.

Now watch this drive!

[JonLeibowitz]

6. There are almost no cases in which an incremental increase in pay results in less take-home pay

That is true even with the EITC as well. It is (nearly) always preferable with the EITC to increase your pay through higher wages. The exceptions involve combinations of other welfare programs which is apparently rare.

There are some specific situations involving retirement & SS, but that's not what we are talking about.

Source: http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/UploadedPDF/412722-How-marginal-Tax-Rates-Affect-Families.pdf

[Bread and Circus]

7. awww y have to get all factual and stuff...

[beam me up scottie]

8. Well there goes another talking point.

And a right wing one at that, don't raise the minimum wage because the workers will pay more in taxes!

[yeoman6987]

11. That is not what I said

Read it again. The replier said people don't mind paying higher taxes which is crap.

[beam me up scottie]

12. Not exactly true.

The poster said "if people have more money in their pockets, they would be willing to pay more in taxes".

You disagreed, implying that workers would object to a much higher wage per hour because they would pay more in taxes.

That is a right wing talking point that's trotted out whenever raising the minimum wage is brought up.

[yeoman6987]

15. I woke up this morning and Reread the reply through and you are right

I was very wrong in my reply. I apologize.

[Kingofalldems]

16. No need to apologize, if you believe in

republican economics just come out and say it. Why beat around the bush?

[Fawke Em]

10. I put off getting remarried because of EIC.

When you have to do that because you're so poor that, that matters - there is something wrong.

I worked full time, too. In a profession I was expected to have a degree for.

[RichVRichV]

4. A full time minimum wage worker would make ~$5300 more

a year post tax under Bernie/O'Malley's $15 minimum wage than under Hillary's $12 minimum wage.

[Cha]

9. Thanks riversedge.. Thank you, Hillary!

[Live and Learn]

13. So she won't raise them but you will get less for them. No thanks!!

Give me higher taxes and something real to show for them. And by the way, I really doubt she will raise them on the 1% that donated so much for her either.

[riversedge]

18. Hillary's plan is pragmatic given the Republicans in congress.

[SunSeeker]

14. I sure as hell don't want them raised to pay for Bernie's wacky version of single payer.

I was shocked to learn in tonight's debate that Bernie's single payer plan would have governors of each state administering the program for their state. Would you want someone like Governor Brownback administering your healthcare?

[thesquanderer]

17. Yes, Sanders would raise taxes on middle class families

from http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/10/18/It-s-Not-Just-Rich-Who-Would-Be-Hit-Sanders-Tax-Hikes

Sanders’ $319 billion proposal for providing paid family and medical leave would be financed by a small increase in the federal Social Security and Medicare FICA payroll tax that all working Americans must pay.

Sanders is modeling his plan to provide paid family and medical leave – including maternity and paternity leave – after legislation reintroduced in March by Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY). That plan would be financed by raising the current 6.2 percent FICA tax rate for both employees and employers by two-tenths of one percent.

i.e. FICA increases from 6.2% to 6.4%.

So then the question becomes, are some things are worth paying higher taxes for?

Further down the road, a theoretical single payer system would require a kind of tax (or "buy-in&quot ... but that would be offset by not having to buy private insurance. I'd say it's worth paying more in tax for a better system, and especially one that might very well also leave you with more money in your pocket than if you didn't have the tax.