2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton: Queen of half-measures. The Triangulation Tri-fecta.
Want a minimum wage of $15? A living wage? Hillary sez $12 will do.
Want Single-payer? We can fix Obamacare.
Like TPP? Well, it's ok until it's not.
Regulate Wall Street? Re-instate Glass-Steagle? We'll send them a strongly worded letter. And say pretty please.
I could add a lot more, but, I'd be risking the wrath of "The Swarm", and be eating pizza for a long time.
Feel free to add your own half measures and triangualions.
Response to Fuddnik (Original post)
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I hope they do it soon.
Reading their diatribes would be worse.
Mickey de Mouse
(38 posts)Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)Bernie Sanders wants marijuana laws to be left up to the states.
However, Hillary Clinton just wants the federal government to move its classification of marijuana from Schedule I (with heroin) to Schedule II (with cocaine).
Hepburn
(21,054 posts)Someone may age who thinks MJ is in the same league as cocaine? (I am approx. only 7 months younger than Hillary.)
Wow! I never knew I was doing hard drugs all this time!
Hekate
(90,714 posts)In fact I haven't even heard it anywhere else but DU in over 15 years.
Way to promote dialog and understanding, fellas.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)One can accept them and move forward or dig in their heels, put fingers in their ears, and shout "nah nah nah".
Many in DU have done the latter. That is what causes issues here.
Regardless, facts are facts.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)It's a little had to take the remark "promote dialog and understanding" when it's positioned right above a graphic that celebrates the banning of someone else.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)I think the swarm is down for the night - last evidence I saw was a very powerful post listing less-than-flattering, but eminently truthful facts about HRC. Out of 37 replies, 13 were from the same HRC supporter - absolutely fact free of course, but than he/she couldn't create facts out of thin air.
daybranch
(1,309 posts)why? Just Because, because
Divernan
(15,480 posts)And I don't reply to the compulsive posters at all.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)Who needs to be bombarded by bullshit?
840high
(17,196 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)Don't have much access to a computer during the day for a while - it is kinda funny to see all the new threads all at once. And telling. I see that anything at all about Hillary that is not praise and worship and fealty is a smear, as usual. Yawn.
If she does get the nomination, I will just busy myself seeing how to protect my grandson from getting killed. That is all her nomination would mean to me. IMO, no matter who wins, at that point, the MIC wins. And Wall Street wins.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Those 3 policy goals just fit together so GREAT! With fewer and fewer jobs paying a survival wage, and getting a college degree meaning assuming the burden of a lifetime, non-dischargable-in-bankuptcy debt, what choice will the proles have left but to "volunteer" to become cannon fodder in the endless profiteering wars.
Think of soylent khaki . . . or maybe, soylent camo.
Get your war on! Vote 3rd Way!
Seriously, protecting your grandson will be a serious challenge, and I wish you all the best in that quest. God help all the grandchildren who are not in One Percent families.
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Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)Whe's planning a run for the White House, and has to show her "tough guy" bonafides.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)Supported the elimination of welfare.
Challenged on equal rights for LGBT on the 700 Club in the 2008 campaign, she changes the subject.
Opposed same gender marriage until 2 years ago.
Supported DOMA.
Wagged her finger in the faces of BLM activists while calling them stupid.
Opposes raising the cap on social security.
Opposes free public colleges.
Supports mandatory sentences.
Wants a constitutional amendment against flag burning.
Member of the Christian Dominist organization: "the Family".
Former president of the DLC which advocated for Reaganomics, offsetting the resulting lessened support from poor White people by not challenging bigotry by slowing down social progress.
Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominionism
Deep shit in we all are, then.
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)still_one
(92,219 posts)Flying Squirrel
(3,041 posts)Perhaps we should do away with those terms. Double plus ungood?
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)Go Vols
(5,902 posts)oasis
(49,389 posts)will hold her to account on the merit of what she has accomplished from 2016-2020.
Will it be 4 years or 8? That's the only "half measure" Madam President should be concerned with.
Flying Squirrel
(3,041 posts)Even GWB got two illegal terms.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Hillary today.
The only ones to get anything done about Wall Street are those in Congress.
If Sanders and Warren can get some good regulation bills passed Hillary will sign them.