I thought for sure with the Bernie revolution and all that.....

[boston bean]

that the Debate last Saturday would have had record numbers watching due to many Bernie political revolutionists viewing.

Wonder why the numbers were so low? With such an inspiring political campaign you would think they would have given up a Saturday evening for the cause to see their candidate debate in one of six debates to be held.

[liberal N proud]

1. Saturday night may not have been the best night

What it had going for it was there are no block buster TV series on Saturday night unless you count the college football games that are taking place.

Oh yeah, college football games, that and just being on Saturday night probably had a lot to do with it. Only political junkies like us tend to go out of our ways to watch these things.

Economy good, people go out on Saturday night, drive past all the restaurants and bars in our area and they have waiting lines.

Between Evening Out and Football, the audience was reduced. Top that off with the bitter political climate in this country thanks to the republicans and people just didn't care to turn it on.

[redstateblues]

25. I'm a big sports fan-there were no big games of

national interest on. Let's face it-these primary debates are only interesting to political junkies who have already made up their minds- for the most part they are boring.

[treestar]

2. Especially the young people

I thought they were ready for the revolution, and most certainly would give up Saturday night partying for it.

[The_Commonist]

3. Only old people watch things on TV at the time they air.

Normal people watch things on the internet whenever they want.

[treestar]

4. That's true

which is why the whole complaint of the Saturday night airing doesn't really make sense, but Bernie supporters continue with it anyway.

[NurseJackie]

8. +1

[Armstead]

12. Not true. Debateds are supposed to be a public forum with as many people watching

Barriers to that are not a healthy thing for democracy.

Yes a lot of people do all that time-shiftung, streaming on dem,and stuff. But a lot of people don't.

It amazes me that people who are Democrats take the Republican line that democracy is supposed to be limited with as many barriers to participation as possible being a good thing.

[treestar]

20. But it's not limited.

Stay home Saturday and watch the debate. With the value of Democracy, who would quibble over that? It's not a work/school night, so you can stay up and watch it all and discuss it after to your heart's content. I don't see the Saturday airing as a "barrier."

[Armstead]

22. Many disagree. Do you also think that if Clinton gets the nomination...

the debates against the GOP should be held on a Saturday night?

[1StrongBlackMan]

32. I wouldn't object, as it is far more convenient for me to have it aired on Saturday ...

rather than, missing the 1st 45 minutes of it (which I had to catch on the internet, later), as a dashed home from work. Had it not been for the debate, I probably would have stayed at work another hour or 2.

[treestar]

44. Don't really get all excited about that

I'm not sure it bothers me when they air or not.

[Sheepshank]

48. My college kid works and has homework & tests due almost every day

weekday debates or just no do-able for her. She cannot carve 2 hours of her weekday study time.

we watched in together on Saturday and discussed.

[1StrongBlackMan]

29. I was going to post something to that effect ...

I keep hearing about social media; yet, it is cable TV that, now, seems all important.

[treestar]

45. True Bernie's support is said to be modern

the people online, with cell phones. Now suddenly we're all about the old fogies that have to be home at the time something is aired in order to see it.

[1StrongBlackMan]

46. Funny, that. Huh? n/t

[notadmblnd]

53. Ahem, it wasn't a Bernie supporter that brought it up here just now.

Might want to check the OP's avatars.

But go ahead and take your cheap shot then whine when a Sanders supporter takes theirs.

[treestar]

54. Easy enough to find posts about

how Hillary and DWS are plotting to keep Bernie out of the public eye and how they chose Sat. night so fewer people would get to see Bernie.

[notadmblnd]

56. as recent as today?

Please, show me.

[BeyondGeography]

5. Normal people

Listen to you.

[The_Commonist]

7. I was just being as snarky as the OP.

I'm pretty damn old myself...

[BeyondGeography]

21. Ok

Sorry. I should know better than to participate in flamebait OP's.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. That is an entirely plausible explanation. Do you work in market research?

EOM

[The_Commonist]

9. Not anymore.

But I did back in the 90's.

[Armstead]

11. Needless snark does not become you

[treestar]

19. It's not snark, is that not a theory placed on DU

by at least some posters. And I have previously argued with them that people DVR or tape.

Not all Bernie people do it, but some have floated the concept that the debate is Saturday night as a way of making sure fewer people see Bernie. Goes along with the whole thing about how the debates are fewer in number for the same reason.

[R B Garr]

10. Berniebros were too busy voting in online polls

that Bernie won and forgot to actually watch the debate.

[Nitram]

52. LOL!

[Armstead]

13. Democracy is a bad thing. That's what you soiund like

It amazes me that people who are Democrats take the Republican line that democracy is supposed to be limited and placing barriers to participation is a good thing.

[boston bean]

14. watching your candidate in a debate would be participating, no?

[Armstead]

23. Yes and it should be on a nioght when more peope would be tuning in

Question: Do you think if Clinton gets the nomination the debates against the GOP candidate should also be held on Saturday nights?

Would you defend the limited viewing time then?

[Thinkingabout]

28. I was working, I recorded the debate, as said before only old people watch in real time, I am old

and I recorded the debate. It just a gripe point. In fact the less people who watched the debates would have been better for Sanders, the debate revealed a candidate in need for foreign affairs experience, if it was not viewed this could be a fact he hid.

[lunamagica]

33. Right! Sanders supporters should hope and pray that not many people saw that disatrous,

cringe-worthy opening statement.

[Thinkingabout]

42. Was not a good moment for Sanders.

[ismnotwasm]

15. Hahaha

You'd think.

[KingCharlemagne]

16. We have no taste for all the blood dripping off Hillary's hands. - nt

[ismnotwasm]

17. But Sanders is inspiring, yes?

He won the debate with gracious ease, at the same time regaling us with his plan to save us from ourselves--as well as Hillary-did he not?

Who wouldn't want to watch such a bear once in a lifetime performance? Not that Sanders won't replicate it next debate

[Armstead]

24. Should Clinton's debates against the GOP also be on a Saturday nite?

[Thinkingabout]

30. It does not matter to many, we record, it does not matter what time the debate occurs, it matters

whether or not one takes the time and effort to view the debate. They could hold the debates at the same time the super bowl is held, I would still record the debate.

[tanyev]

18. Jury results:

On Wed Nov 18, 2015, 07:27 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

I thought for sure with the Bernie revolution and all that.....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251823880

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Shit-stirring flamie-bait for the chuckles. There have been multiple threads on this, question asked and answered many times, BB was in them. Disruptive.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Nov 18, 2015, 07:33 AM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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[MoonRiver]

26. (Almost) unbelievable!

Meaning the alert, not the results.

[Ed Suspicious]

27. So full of glee that you get to stick a dirt covered finger in the eye of the underdog.

So joyful at the thought of a young movement snuffed out in its infancy. I think I will never understand your kind.

[Thinkingabout]

31. Or stick a dirt covered finger in the eye of the leader in the polls. Hillary also has youth, in

fact her issues are directed at youth.

[MaggieD]

34. I wondered the same (nt)

[Bluenorthwest]

35. In most TV, the best known and top billed player would take the heat for low numbers more than

lesser known and less popular players. It's not really possible to look at a 3 person event and claim that one of the 3 is responsible for low numbers. That's sad and absurd.
So you are left with a problematic argument, in that to ding Bernie for this means dinging Hillary for it as well and proportionately more as she's supposed to be the awesome popular. Where were HER viewers?
The real question for a real Democrat should be this: where were our viewers?

[NCTraveler]

36. Craft beer is number one for the revolutionaries on a Saturday night. nt.

[pinebox]

37. The answer is simple

Bernie supporters are out enjoying their weekend and not inside yelling "nurse".

[Nitram]

57. Oh, yeah, love the ageist humor!

I've been refraining about making adult diaper jokes about Bernie.

[pinebox]

59. Thought you'd like that :)

I do however demographics take a BIG seat in that.
People are out and about Saturday nights. The only ones who sit home and watch debates are political junkies.

[Nitram]

61. I agree.

But the "Nurse" joke was totally gratuitous. And unpleasant to people like me who have a parent dying in assisted living.

[PowerToThePeople]

38. So many OPs to trash, so little time.

eom

[Nitram]

60. Clinton has worked for the working class, unions and minorities for her entire career.

She has incredible depth in her knowledge of foreign and domestic policy, as well as the legislative process. She is a progressive among progressives.

[ljm2002]

40. So let's see here...

...first DWS comes up with only 6 debates. Then they are scheduled at very, very non-optimum times, a fact that has been called out repeatedly here at DU and elsewhere, BEFORE any of the debates were held -- IOW, this is not hindsight.

So now, with the numbers in, we have a DWS / Clinton supporter crowing that the audience was small, and somehow... wait for it... it's the fault of Sanders and his supporters, who aren't enthusiastic enough apparently. No mention, though, of the army of Clinton supporters, who also apparently aren't all that enthusiastic either?

Enough to make one go "Hmmm..."

[djean111]

41. All the young Bernie supporters I know do not watch TV. They don't need to.

They know what Bernie stands for. They are not going to be swayed by a debate - they look things up for themselves.
I have discussed "campaign blather", focus groups, and polls with my grandson.

With all of the much-bragged-about lead that Hillary is supposed to have, I would ask the same question of Hillary's supprters - where were they?

[Cali_Democrat]

49. So then why does it seem like the Bernie supporters are the ones complaining

about the timing of the debates?

They're the ones complaining that the debates are being held on the weekends.

If Bernie supporters don't watch TV and already know what Bernie stands for, then why should it even matter when the debates are held?

[djean111]

51. I was not one of those protesting mightily about the debates, because I do not watch them.

I don't listen to speeches anymore, either. Records and deeds, all that matter to me.

The Bernie supporters I know do not think any of the other candidates can utter anything that would erase the differences between themselves and Bernie, or make those differences irrelevant. I don't speak for any other supporters.

[whatchamacallit]

43. Kind of a dim "thought"

Thanks for the flame lame bait.

[Sheepshank]

47. The revolution was put on hold for a College Football game

. I find the excuses weak sauce, but it's what has been touted here for over a week now.

[BainsBane]

50. Revolutionaries are too busy with football games and Sat night parties

to watch debates. Everyone knows that.

[lunamagica]

55. So going out on an ordinary Saturday night takes precendence over watching the debates,

and they can't even bother to record it to watch it later, or look it up online...

Is that what Sanders supporters call PASSION? A REVOLUTION?

Well, to me it feels like they aren't feeling the Bern...

[polly7]

58. Where were all the Clinton supporters? nt.

[RobertEarl]

64. Good point

The billions of H> supporters are so bored that they did not bother to tune in and watch her bloviate?

[Cha]

63. That's was actually my thought, too.