Three new polls released today, CT, CO, and FL

[George II]

Florida Democratic Presidential Primary Florida Atlantic University Clinton 66, Sanders 22, O'Malley 4 Clinton +44

Colorado Democratic Presidential Caucus Quinnipiac Clinton 55, Sanders 27, O'Malley 2 Clinton +28

Connecticut Democratic Presidential Primary Emerson College Clinton 50, Sanders 31, O'Malley 9 Clinton +19

Clinton continues to surge!

[Historic NY]

1. Great numbers....

[MADem]

2. She owns the road, on national security, international relations, and

domestic issues, too.

It's not surprising that she's leading. She knows how to lead, after all.

[Todays_Illusion]

10. Sure if you are seeking a Republican for President Hillary is the best offering available.

[guillaumeb]

27. You were alerted on. I was number 3

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This shouldn't have to be alerted on. It shouldn't have ever been posted. It's actively disparaging a Democratic candidate. How on earth is this accepted around here?

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Nov 18, 2015, 01:48 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: There is an ongoing contest for the Democratic nomination. Actively disparaging a candidate for the nomination is permitted; the rules prohibit only disparaging the Democratic Party nominee. Clinton supporters are entitled to opine that she is the probable, even inevitable, nominee, but there is still the technical formality of actual voting by actual voters to be gone through before she IS the nominee. At this stage, people are entitled to opine as to why she should not be the nominee.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: a comment about the perceived politics of a candidate should be accepted as a legitimate part of the debate
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: If the poster want to make these kind of comments regarding a democrat, maybe they should be on free republic instead of DU.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[Todays_Illusion]

60. Thanks for that. Though I haven't been active here, I am back trying again and I am back because

censorship for liberal viewpoints are being squashed everywhere. I didn't hang around much before because there seems to be some very conservative actives on DU. I am as disappointed as I was before. I have so far served on two juries and thei were for similar not personal attacks or insults, but indignation that someone had a strongly differing opinion, like this a more conservative member yelping about a more liberal opposition comment. I can only guess that Bernie Supporters here get beaten on a regular basis.

[guillaumeb]

63. This censorship also happens in some groups.

Any variance from the established narrative is discouraged by some hosts.

My personal hope and feeling is that the more people stay and insist on free expression, the less censorship will be tolerated.

[Jim Lane]

28. This survived an alert

I personally don't agree with this particular criticism. Clinton is more conservative than her Democratic rivals but still not as far right as the Republicans. Nevertheless, it's distressing that Clinton supporters are expressly stating that any criticism of Clinton is unacceptable, is just carrying the Republicans' water, and should be hidden.

This charge of attempting to suppress legitimate criticism has also been leveled at Sanders supporters. I don't remember that I've happened to have been on any juries for those posts. I'm just reporting the meritless alert that I happen to know about.

I was Juror #2.


On Wed Nov 18, 2015, 01:43 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Sure if you are seeking a Republican for President Hillary is the best offering available.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=824705

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This shouldn't have to be alerted on. It shouldn't have ever been posted. It's actively disparaging a Democratic candidate. How on earth is this accepted around here?

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Nov 18, 2015, 01:48 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: There is an ongoing contest for the Democratic nomination. Actively disparaging a candidate for the nomination is permitted; the rules prohibit only disparaging the Democratic Party nominee. Clinton supporters are entitled to opine that she is the probable, even inevitable, nominee, but there is still the technical formality of actual voting by actual voters to be gone through before she IS the nominee. At this stage, people are entitled to opine as to why she should not be the nominee.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: a comment about the perceived politics of a candidate should be accepted as a legitimate part of the debate
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: If the poster want to make these kind of comments regarding a democrat, maybe they should be on free republic instead of DU.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[Todays_Illusion]

58. Wow, I have seen much worse said here about Hillary and Bernie. This is primary season it we

have primaries for this purpose, disagreements within the party.

[Plucketeer]

36. Lemmee see.......

Maybe I can get alerted on too.

When you survey the field of selectables on the GOP side, Hillary MAY WELL appear as THE BEST BET for those who would normally never even THINK about someone with a (D) next to their name! She loves her some "Gold Standard" of a trade giveaway. She's against $15 outrageous bucks an hour for folks that know what callouses look like. That would explain ALOT of the bucks flowing her way!

[Nitram]

41. We have different opinions abbout who Clintton is.

but you needn't insult every Democrat who supports Clinton.

[Thinkingabout]

51. If we do not present a strong capable candidate for the GE then yes we will have a republican

president. I will try to win the GE with a strong capable candidate and I am going to support Hillary Clinton for president for this reason.

[Cha]

61. Actually that's only your "illusion".

[Todays_Illusion]

64. That is very nearly a direct and deliberate personal insult, my post was what I think of Hillary as

as a candidate. Tell me why your comment is fine and mine is not?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. More encouraging is she lost Co by 34% and CT by 4% in 08.

She really needs to end this in NH so we can focus on the G E which will be a dog fight.

[RoccoR5955]

7. It will not be a dog fight

When Bernie is the candidate. He will wipe them up with his honesty, steadfastness, and the fact that he does not take big money, and has more experience than ANYONE on he RepubliCON side!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. Bernie is not going to be the candidate though.

No need for me to elaborate on what a G E would like...

[classykaren]

44. You better hope he is the Rethugs have way to much dirt on Hillary which they will release at the

right time . Timing is everything we will lose as a party and have a crazy repub as President.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

45. Hilary is tough as nails...

Hilary is tough as nails... If they sling a pound of poo at her she will sling a ton of poo back at them.

[Jim Lane]

29. It WILL be a dog fight regardless of whom we run.

This common theme of "My candidate is certain to win the nomination" is good clean fun -- but when it comes to asserting that the Democrat (any Democrat) is certain to win the general election, I get very nervous.

I think that Obama's approval rating has ticked up a bit lately, but there will still be a significant "time for a change" feeling among voters. Add a big dollop of GOP election fraud and this one is not at all in the bag.

[onenote]

48. exactly right

Posters who say only their candidate can win are just pissing in the wind as far as I'm concerned. The reality is that it won't matter who the Democratic party nominee is: Clinton can't win, Sanders can't win and O'Malley can't win unless the supporters of all three come together and work their tails off for whomever is the nominee.
There was a post earlier today that shows Clinton losing to Carson, Cruz, Trump, and Rubio in Colorado. It also shows Sanders losing to three of the four, sometimes by double digits.

The point is not that a loss in Colorado is inevitable, it's that we have to work together. I described it in an earlier post as being different from the playoffs for a sports championship. In that instance, when the team you root for gets knocked out, you can go ahead and pay attention to other things. But when the competitors for the Democratic nomination ultimately are knocked and one candidate is left standing, we all better get on board.

[That Guy 888]

62. If it ends in NH the pivote to the right will start too early.

And liberals will once more be told their irrelevant, but to support Clinton anyway, because goppers.

But if Sanders is still in the Primary when Texas votes, Hillary still won't get my vote.

[zappaman]

4. And this shows why Bernie is winning.

Thank you for these numbers showing how Bernie is taking the country by storm.

[Bobbie Jo]

6. heh

[OKNancy]

14. I'm really worried for those who have talked themselves into believing that

I hope they don't start drinking or eating or taking up some other unhealthy habits to calm their grief.

[JohnnyRingo]

39. I'm more concerned about DU

I've considered what would happen if Hillary becomes the nominee and Sanders runs as an Independent. Would his supporters form a coup to take over the splintered site, or start their own website to mount their campaign?

Either way, it won't go well for the site I visit the first thing every day. I don't wantto speculate on who the eventual winner will be, but I know Ms Clinton will not run as an indy. Sanders however, is already a registered independent.

[Scootaloo]

43. Bernie's registered as a Democrat, and has primised he will not be a splitter

Clinton has made no such promise, and if 2008 taught us anything, it's that Clinton supporters are definitely willing to jump ship if they don't get what they want.

[Agnosticsherbet]

56. Trying to take over the site and make it a place of support for an non-democrat would violate

terms of service, as I read them.

I have noticed that the administration does not welcome such actions.

And Sanders is a Democrat as of 2 weeks ago.

[classykaren]

46. But what will you do?

[BainsBane]

21. He's winning all 50 states, Zappaman.

He has them running scared. That's why the MSM-science-logic conspiracy is making it seem like voters support Clinton, when in fact Bernie is winning all 50 states.

[Still In Wisconsin]

38. And that was necessary why? n/t

[murielm99]

42. Did you ask that about post #10? n/t

[Still In Wisconsin]

59. No I didn't because I didn't see it. Both posts suck. n/t

[George II]

55. All 50 states!

[oasis]

5. Madam President will look back on these days with fondness for

the awakening American public.

[RoccoR5955]

8. NOT Madam President yet

So like they say, don't count your chickens before they hatch.

And while I'm at it, there is a REAL awakening of the American and regardless of the corporate numbers, Bernie shall win. They simply don't count his supporters correctly.

[oasis]

13. "so like they say, don't count your chickens". Yup, THEY

also say, "numbers don't lie".

[RoccoR5955]

50. Yep and they also say:

"There are lies, damn lies, and statistics."
Aren't polls the collection of raw data for statistics?
(mike drop)

[upaloopa]

31. Well then they don't count anybody correctly

How can you say scientific a poll doesn't count part of the selection correctly?
Every poll for months has given the same result. Have all those polls counted Brrnie supporters wrong too?

[litlbilly]

32. They can just keep puting these corporate polls up. It's all they have.

[MoonRiver]

9. She's that far ahead in Colorado??

But, I just read somewhere here, on DU-P, that Hillary beating Bernie in CO was impossible.

[BlueMTexpat]

22. If I recall correctly, it was more

that Rubio would crush Hillary per a CO poll, with the implication that Bernie would be the better Dem opponent for the GE. We'll likely have the chance to see whether that will be borne out or not, if Rubio is indeed the R nominee, because things really do look good for Hillary right now.

But perhaps you are referring to a different post.

[MoonRiver]

24. I know better than to reveal that much!

[Todays_Illusion]

11. Somehow everyone who calls the MSM /propaganda as news is believing all these new polls. Why?

When the entire national propaganda has spent the last three years claiming Hillary is the only candidate available naturally they polling numbers will be made to reflect that.

Have you all forgotten all that pre 2012 election polling that show Romney would be the winner by a solid 10-12% margin.

[OKNancy]

15. No, I don't recall that at all.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

[BlueMTexpat]

23. Nice one! eom

[MaggieD]

18. "Have you all forgotten all that pre 2012 election polling..."

"Have you all forgotten all that pre 2012 election polling that show Romney would be the winner by a solid 10-12% margin."

Huh? How can I forget something that never actually happened? He was never polling above Obama.

[upaloopa]

34. You mean at that unskew the polls website?

[Gamecock Lefty]

12. I'm betting . . .

Bernie's wife votes for Hillary - behind closed doors, of course!

[MaggieD]

17. Someone is surging, but it ain't Bernie

K&R

[BainsBane]

19. We were told Hillary destroyed herself at the debate

and she couldn't handle pressure, which is why DWS limited the number of debates. (Never mind the fact we saw her recently endure 11 hours of questioning by the House Benghazi committee).

[NurseJackie]

20. That Florida poll is very impressive. Up by FORTY-FOUR!

[OKNancy]

40. And Alan Grayson is on her leadership team... that must sting.

[sheshe2]

25. Great poll #'s George II~

[madfloridian]

26. Just my opinion...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128075009

[lame54]

30. we'll see

[Bubzer]

33. It's a shame hillary surrogates are buying polls... it suggests she can only win through foul play.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128074296

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251810548

[upaloopa]

35. So how much do you think Hillary has spent

buying polls? Also was it the millions from Wall Street or some other secret contributions. Maybe the Hillary Clinton buy the polls PAC.
In 2015 all pollsters wait in line to sell a poll result to Hillary.

[Bubzer]

37. The media knows which side their bread is buttered. You intend it to be mockery...but its true.

The media also knows Bernie will work to remove money from politics... hillary wont. Naturally, the media is going to go with the candidate that is going to keep the money flowing into their coffers.

[classykaren]

47. Yes and her assistant telling everyone she gets confused real easily

[DemocratSinceBirth]

49. That's a classy response.

Yes and her assistant telling everyone she gets confused real easily

[onenote]

52. Really? You're going there?

Yes, Clinton's assistant sent an email three years ago stating that, less than five weeks after sustaining a concussion, Clinton was experiencing bouts of confusion. The only person who thinks that she didn't fully recover from the concussion is Karl Rove. And you. And Karl Rove actually retracted his statement and acknowledged there was no permanent damage from the concussion.
How does it feel to be to the right of Karl Rove?

[Sancho]

53. Let's have more debates!!

Hmmmm...

two or three more debates and forums; Hillary will be at 75%!

Of course the record number of endorsements, union supports, and super delegates must also be an anomaly?

[George II]

54. Well we heard that once people got to know Sanders the poll numbers. ...

...would change, but they weren't expecting them to change the direction they have!

[mcar]

57. Great!

[Cha]

65. KICK!