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babylonsister

(171,069 posts)
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:57 AM Sep 2012

"Who the f#ck is left who might might want to vote for these assholes?"

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/8/31/19642/7872

This Isn't Marriage Counseling

by BooMan
Fri Aug 31st, 2012 at 07:06:42 PM EST


I think it's a stupid notion to look at this election as a troubled marriage between the president and the people who voted him into office. Maybe there are some people who are disappointed in the president, but no one likes Mitt Romney. And I mean no one. But it's not all about Mitt Romney. The Republican Party has spent the last twelve years demonizing Muslims. It's been bashing gays with gusto since at least 2004. It's been blasting away at Latinos ever since President Bush got the crazy notion of doing immigration reform. It's actively doing everything it can to suppress the black vote. It insults Europe at every opportunity. There is one Jewish Republican in all of Congress. The GOP has been waging an all-out assault on women's reproductive rights and has opposed equal pay for equal work with religious fervor. Who the fuck is left who might might want to vote for these assholes?

Where this administration has fallen short, whether it be through obstruction or lack of vision or even a lack of nerve, the Republicans offer no succor. Want Gitmo closed? Romney won't do that. Want out of Afghanistan quicker? Romney doesn't. Want cramdown for underwater mortgages? Don't ask Mitt. Want more regulation and accountability on Wall Street? You know the answer to that. Want a more equitable tax system? Please.

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This is not about people being disappointed in Obama. This is about the Republican Party having very unpopular ideas and a determination to insult and alienate almost everyone in the county who doesn't strongly resemble Karl Rove.

Why aren't the Republicans doing better?

What a dumb question. Why are they polling competitively at all?

These Republican strategists are trying to figure out how to get people to divorce Barack Obama. They ought to give up that moronic idea. They aren't winning because they aren't very appealing.
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"Who the f#ck is left who might might want to vote for these assholes?" (Original Post) babylonsister Sep 2012 OP
Sorry Flashmann Sep 2012 #1
Spam deleted by hlthe2b (MIR Team) woawoa Sep 2012 #2
Sen. Lindsay Graham (R-SC): Repubs "not generating enough angry white guys" Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #3
i.e., racists... Well hallelujah for that! nt babylonsister Sep 2012 #5
I can't agree with him Courtesy Flush Sep 2012 #9
angry white men on our side have more words in the label: smart, classy roguevalley Sep 2012 #15
About 48% of the idiotic American voters. Fuddnik Sep 2012 #4
Bingo. Some of them hate both candidates, geckosfeet Sep 2012 #7
Who? ewagner Sep 2012 #17
This was attributed to Chris Rock, but I believe it was actually CrispyQ Sep 2012 #6
I like the analogy. geckosfeet Sep 2012 #8
Right on SmittynMo Sep 2012 #10
We must get the word out Barry2012 Sep 2012 #11
and those who listen to fox have been trained to believe anything a liberal iemitsu Sep 2012 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Barry2012 Sep 2012 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Barry2012 Sep 2012 #13
Brainwashed dupes n2doc Sep 2012 #14
Not Obama Moral Compass Sep 2012 #16
You have to understand the one issue voter... docgee Sep 2012 #18
Simple Answer. Racists, low information voters, idiots . Or the rich. cyclezealot Sep 2012 #19
This guy.... JohnnyRingo Sep 2012 #20
Hey Girl, Aerows Sep 2012 #21
Ferengis Mnpaul Sep 2012 #22
...about half the country will vote for them. davidn3600 Sep 2012 #23
Sometimes it's generational DissidentVoice Sep 2012 #27
The people with all the money like him. And they're the only ones who matter valerief Sep 2012 #24
The ones that will vote for Re-pugs are the ones that have no class, and maybe never went to class. occupymybrain Sep 2012 #25
Speaking only for myself, I have a lot of conservative friends. Professional Flatulo Sep 2012 #28
The Romney/Ryan supporters are out there for a variety of reasons Grammy23 Sep 2012 #29

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
1. Sorry
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:03 AM
Sep 2012

Your assessment just does not jibe with faux noose facts.....Oh,and uncle rush calls bullshit too....

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
3. Sen. Lindsay Graham (R-SC): Repubs "not generating enough angry white guys"
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:58 AM
Sep 2012
“The demographics race we’re losing badly,” said Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.). “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.”


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/30/1125916/-Angry-white-guy-bemoans-lack-of-angry-white-guys-in-Republican-Party

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
4. About 48% of the idiotic American voters.
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 10:05 AM
Sep 2012

Selfish, self-loathing, racist, functioning illiterate morans.

Bob Dylan said it in "It's Alright Ma".

"He ain't interested in getting any higher, just wants to drag you down in the same ditch he's in".

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
7. Bingo. Some of them hate both candidates,
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 10:14 AM
Sep 2012

but hate the white guy less.

Some are illiterate and can't count. The don't know that their tax rate is twice that of rMoney's. And that rMoney will lower taxes on the rich and increase their health care costs and increase their taxes.

And some are just hateful spiteful people who will vote for evil to avenge their misery on the rest of the world.

It's a strange world that we live in.

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
17. Who?
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 11:03 AM
Sep 2012

All those who irrationally hate a black guy in the oval office.

the more hate the repubs can generate, the better their chances

CrispyQ

(36,470 posts)
6. This was attributed to Chris Rock, but I believe it was actually
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 10:13 AM
Sep 2012

a Chris Rock parody who tweeted it, but it still rocks!

If you vote against Obama because he can't get stuff done, it's like saying, "this guy can't cure cancer. I'm gonna vote for cancer."




on edit: To the OP - I have no idea who the fuck votes for these assholes. I'm seriously questioning my respect for people I know who vote republican. I'd like to say to them, "You seem intelligent. You're a successful business owner. Why would you vote for a party that abhors science?"

What could they possibly answer? "I don't want to pay more taxes,"? Big fucking deal! Taxes are going to be the very last worry your kids are going to have! Which brings me to what I fear is really the truth, "I don't like a black guy in the White House."

I don't know.

 

Barry2012

(51 posts)
11. We must get the word out
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 10:32 AM
Sep 2012

Too many people are believing the lies of the Gop, we must inform them of reality.if romney/ryan win this election we are fucked period.all they want is implement the agenda of the tea party, dont let it happen.Im talking to all my friends coworkers ect., some of them are just fucking idiots period.They buy into the lies of rush limbaugh and croannies.But when confronted with the truth they have no answer, and it boils my blood.They hate obama just because he's different, not your typical president and that boils my blood even more.but im gonna continue to call them out even if they burst in flames.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
26. and those who listen to fox have been trained to believe anything a liberal
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 11:42 AM
Sep 2012

says is a lie.
that complicates our informing them that the liars really work at fox.
people believe whatever they want to believe, especially if it reinforces what they already believe.
who needs evidence or accuracy?

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
14. Brainwashed dupes
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 10:40 AM
Sep 2012

Do not underestimate the power of RW propaganda, hurled 24/7. Not just on Hate radio and Faux, but nearly every TV news program involved some sort of "us vs. them" setup, designed to make you hate 'the other'. Hell, I hear it on Sports Radio, you have folks like Colin Cowherd sneak in their support for the 1%ers and hatred for 'lazy folks' all the time. It is incredibly persuasive.

The other thing is voter suppression, which is in full swing in all states the repubs control. There is a good reason, besides apathy, that many voters 'don't vote'.

Moral Compass

(1,521 posts)
16. Not Obama
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 10:55 AM
Sep 2012

I agree with everything in this post. The Republicans have nothing. They aren't even proposing any coherent understandable policy solutions except for the utterly insane Ryan budget. They are running campaign of division and hate. Muslims, gays, atheists, liberals--the whole gamut of "others".

There poll numbers should be in the toilet. Like 20%.

But don't miss the obvious. They're not voting for Romney. They can't stand him. He's not at all likeable. They are voting for "not-Obama".

That candidate is running well right now. We'll see if that is enough. I hope that it is not. But I work with a lot of Republicans and they're all voting for "not-Obama".

docgee

(870 posts)
18. You have to understand the one issue voter...
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 11:06 AM
Sep 2012

Abortion and 2nd amendment voters make up (estimating) 40% of voters. That is what we need to overcome to get elected. For Obama to get elected he has to win over 90% of what's left. You are right, no one is voting for these assholes!

cyclezealot

(4,802 posts)
19. Simple Answer. Racists, low information voters, idiots . Or the rich.
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 11:09 AM
Sep 2012

cover of Mother Jones tells all...One might be surprised how many are comfortable with life in the asylum. !.
.
.
WTF, GOP?
Dear Republicans: You shoulda had this election in the bag. But then you took a long detour to Crazytown.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/04/gop-war-on-women

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
21. Hey Girl,
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 11:17 AM
Sep 2012

I'll take away the Social Security and Medicare that you paid into all of your life, but I'll give you coupons, and the money pot of Social Security will end up in the pocket of the CEOs.

I know you like me for my heartlessness. I'm somebody that is all for survival of the fittest, until I'm not fit. Then I just get a government bailout by threatening to take away people's jobs. I'm a CEO that way.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
23. ...about half the country will vote for them.
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 11:29 AM
Sep 2012

40% of the country is a given to vote for Romney. They are conservative. And a lot of people don't really vote for their best interests. They will get caught up on some side issue. They may be dead set against abortion as part of their religious beliefs (and many of them are women themselves). They may believe that Democrats will try to take their guns away. Others may own businesses and don't want the government to have any of the profits. Stuff like that...

Libertarians (5-10% of the electorate) won't vote for Obama either, even though they may agree with him on social issues. The libertarians want the IRS abolished, the tax code re-written, the Federal Reserve audited, and the budget slashed and burned no matter who it hurts. These people think unless the budget is balanced immediately that America will soon collapse. They do NOT like Romney, nor the Republicans. But they will vote for Romney over Obama.

So that's how the GOP gets 45-49% of the vote. Democrats will get 45-49% of the vote too. The final 2-10% are moderates, independents, and swing voters. Those are the voters that hold all the cards in every election. And unfortunately Obama seems to have lost a lot of these people over the past 4 years. Which is why most pollsters think this will be a very close election.

DissidentVoice

(813 posts)
27. Sometimes it's generational
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 12:04 PM
Sep 2012

I was born and grew up in Indiana (about 40 miles from where Dan Quayle came from ), though I live in Michigan now and have for the past five years. I don't regret leaving the Hoosier State at all.

First off, I was unbelievably shocked that Indiana went for Obama in '08. It hadn't gone for a Democrat since LBJ. It's the first in the nation to close polls, and it's reliably in the GOP column. Outside the major cities with a large labour presence (South Bend, Gary, Fort Wayne), university towns (Bloomington, Lafayette, South Bend again) and the state capital (Indy), it's very much like the Deep South culturally...complete with wannabe Confederates flying that flag (and the odd "White Power" bumper sticker). There's also a large Klan presence. I don't know if it's still there but there was a Klan training camp in St. Joseph County that the Sheriff was trying to close down (unsuccessfully)...back in the '20s, most of Indiana Government was Klan.

They gave the boot to one of the few Republicans I could respect, Richard Lugar, in the primary this year and put in a Tea Potty/Norquist approved shill. Lugar and I corresponded fairly frequently, and though we disagreed on most issues, he said "rational, intelligent people can agree to disagree...I am still your Senator, and you are still one of my constituents." I also had a good Congressman for some years, Tim Roemer (D), who sat on the 9/11 commission. But now...it's as bloody GOP red as it's ever been, if not more. In 2008 Chelsea Clinton was there speaking at Butler University and some bright arse had the gall to ask her about Monica Lewinsky...to her credit, Chelsea handled it very well, saying "I can't believe you asked me that. Next question!" when she could have given the guy a good swift kick in the family jewels.

My wife grew up near Terre Haute, which is about as much of a Jerkwater, U.S.A. as you'll find. She told me that she always voted Republican because that's what her father told her she should do (she's changed, thank God! ). That is not atypical for Indiana, or probably deep red states in general: "My daddy and granddaddy voted Republican, and if it's good enough for them it's good enough for me! Besides, what I've learned from Rush about them nasty commie Liberals...ya just gotta vote straight Republican!"

Those are the kind of people who will vote for Romney, simply because they go into the voting booth (or kiosk), mark "R" and are done with it. There are some who will have to hold their noses at voting for a Mormon (rural Indiana is very fundamentalist) but they'll do it anyway...just to get that "Kenyan Marxist Socialist" out of the White House.

occupymybrain

(74 posts)
25. The ones that will vote for Re-pugs are the ones that have no class, and maybe never went to class.
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 11:35 AM
Sep 2012

I live in Colorado which has went blue before and It hope again. As of Now I've only seen one Romney sticker and a couple of lawn decorations. I find this funny because the last election all I was seeing was republican stickers and propaganda everywhere the eye could see. This time round i'm seeing a ton of Obama stickers, magnets, signs, now mind you I do live in Denver which is progressive.

Now for my second thought here, I deliver pizza for extra money and was told by the owner of that company that I could not have Obama stickers, magnets or anything else related to Obama on my car while I drive pizza. After he told me this I said "are you kidding?" he replied "no" He felt the climate is to hot for those kinds of stickers and said he didn't want to alienate anyone. I said OK because i need the money. This made me think so people are so nasty that they would never order because I have a Obama sticker?

I think this partly answers your question "who is left" Ideological cry babies and in Colorado a bunch of gun owners that think the Democrats are out for their guns (lol) however everyone else seems like they are ready to vote Obama. Mostly the uninformed are at risk of romneyitis come November.

 

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)
28. Speaking only for myself, I have a lot of conservative friends. Professional
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 12:10 PM
Sep 2012

type, engineers and scientists. High wage earners, $100,000+ per year. For most of my life I was somewhat conservative (no, I didn't vote for Reagan), but I did feel like the government was taking too much of my income. I've always been very liberal on the social issues: affirmative action, women's choice, drug legalization, but conservative (or more accuately libertarian) on gun control, immigration and a few other issues.

But something strange happened about 20 years ago. I noticed that a lot of our corporate leaders were incompetent, but we're nevertheless making millions of dollars per year. They were sending hundreds of thousands of good jobs overseas to enrich themselves. They were growing isolated from their staffs and only speaking with each other. They were becoming just a bunch of rich, pampered white guys who had no idea how to run a company; only how to bust it up and sell off the pieces.

My professional colleagues noticed the same things and went through the same process of transformation that I did. They realized that Rush Limbaugh was full of shit and that the Republicans no longer represented their interests.

Long story short, I think the Repubs have even isolated a big part of their base - upper middle class Caucasians. I honestly don't know a single soul who is supporting Romney.

As the OP points out, they have no one left but the uber-rich (and maybe the inbred), and there just aren't enough of them to carry the day for Mitt.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
29. The Romney/Ryan supporters are out there for a variety of reasons
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 11:34 PM
Sep 2012

Can't forget a bunch of folks voted Republican in '08 and they are not going to change their views easily. Some have voted that way for years and years and couldn't imagine voting Democratic.

Some just hate Obama because of his color/race/he's a Muslim/he was not born in US/he has not fixed our problems.

Some are homo phobes and the idea of Marriage Equality is reason enough to vote against Obama.

Some hate abortion and think Romney will turn back the clock. They also are deluded enough to think that no one they know will ever be faced with the hard decisions women must make when there is an unplanned pregnancy, whether from rape, incest or just condom failure. And thinking about any of these things in the abstract is always easier than when it applies to you personally.

Any or all of these types can resist anything that conflicts with their beliefs or Point of View. Even all the lying that is as plain as the nose on your face can be ignored because they will tell themselves, "They all do it."

One thing to remember: ANYONE can be brought down when the weight of evidence piles up too high. I think about Joe Paterno and how revered he was. No one could be more adored than he was. But the tipping point came for him when the pile of crap against him just got too big to ignore. The same thing can happen to Romney/Ryan if the voices just keep hammering away at them. Keep asking for tax returns. Keep talking about Bain. Keep talking about Ryan's record. Publicize the Republican Platform. The pile will grow and grow until even the most ardent supporter can't ignore it. Some may hang on all the way to the voting booth, but enough will drop off or just not vote to bring Obama to victory.
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