2016 Postmortem

DCBob

(24,689 posts) Thu Nov 19, 2015, 08:36 PM Nov 2015

Latest HuffPost/Pollster graphic shows Hillary climbing... and Bernie sinking

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-- April 2015 to current
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-- All polls

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Latest HuffPost/Pollster graphic shows Hillary climbing... and Bernie sinking (Original Post) DCBob Nov 2015 OP

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #1

Oops! DCBob Nov 2015 #2

yay! :-) NurseJackie Nov 2015 #3

Sure... Cheese Sandwich Nov 2015 #4

And "less smoothing" gives more weight to that suspect poll. winter is coming Nov 2015 #5

Oh look another poll, how surprising litlbilly Nov 2015 #6

Less smoothing simply provides more detail. DCBob Nov 2015 #9

"Less smoothing simply provides more detail." Um, no. winter is coming Nov 2015 #11

Smoothing hides details. DCBob Nov 2015 #12

... winter is coming Nov 2015 #13

Furthermore less smoothing is not just connecting the dots.. its simply "less smoothing". DCBob Nov 2015 #14

That graph hides the details. DCBob Nov 2015 #7

Keep it up, Hillary! Cha Nov 2015 #8

When you are winning and opponents start trash talking... Alfresco Nov 2015 #10

I love that dark blue line. riversedge Nov 2015 #15

In particular that nice bend back up the end of September! DCBob Nov 2015 #16

Poll! artislife Nov 2015 #17

Which two? I see one from today, and one from Thursday that's been kicked to the top again. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #18

Sorry, I just look at the the thread not when it was posted artislife Nov 2015 #19

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DCBob

(24,689 posts)

2. Oops!

Reply to Name removed (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 08:41 PM

Nov 2015

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)

3. yay! :-)

Reply to DCBob (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 09:40 PM

Nov 2015

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)

4. Sure...

Reply to DCBob (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 09:43 PM

Nov 2015

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-democratic-primary

That PPP poll is suspect anyway those folks are on Hillary's payroll.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)

5. And "less smoothing" gives more weight to that suspect poll.

Reply to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 09:44 PM

Nov 2015

Color me unsurprised.

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)

6. Oh look another poll, how surprising

Reply to winter is coming (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 09:58 PM

Nov 2015

DCBob

(24,689 posts)

9. Less smoothing simply provides more detail.

Reply to winter is coming (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:18 AM

Nov 2015

It doesn't weight any poll more than another.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)

11. "Less smoothing simply provides more detail." Um, no.

Reply to DCBob (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:47 AM

Nov 2015

The purpose of smoothing is to lessen the impact of outliers, to show you the general trend instead of jerking from one data point to the next.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)

12. Smoothing hides details.

Reply to winter is coming (Reply #11)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 10:26 AM

Nov 2015

How do you know they are outliers?

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)

13. ...

Reply to DCBob (Reply #12)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 02:30 PM

Nov 2015

DCBob

(24,689 posts)

14. Furthermore less smoothing is not just connecting the dots.. its simply "less smoothing".

Reply to winter is coming (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 04:08 PM

Nov 2015

See dots below not connected using less smoothing option..

Hope your head feels better!

DCBob

(24,689 posts)

7. That graph hides the details.

Reply to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:09 AM

Nov 2015

What I posted is more informative.

PPP is one of the most respected polling organizations in the country.

Cha

(297,693 posts)

8. Keep it up, Hillary!

Reply to DCBob (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:13 AM

Nov 2015

Alfresco

(1,698 posts)

10. When you are winning and opponents start trash talking...

Reply to DCBob (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 07:09 AM

Nov 2015

it's always good to just point to the scoreboard.

riversedge

(70,306 posts)

15. I love that dark blue line.

Reply to DCBob (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:23 AM

Nov 2015

DCBob

(24,689 posts)

16. In particular that nice bend back up the end of September!

Reply to riversedge (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:26 AM

Nov 2015

artislife

(9,497 posts)

17. Poll!

Reply to DCBob (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:40 AM

Nov 2015

Two this morning by the same poster

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)

18. Which two? I see one from today, and one from Thursday that's been kicked to the top again.

Reply to artislife (Reply #17)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:44 AM

Nov 2015

artislife

(9,497 posts)

19. Sorry, I just look at the the thread not when it was posted

Reply to NurseJackie (Reply #18)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:46 AM

Nov 2015

I tend to skip over anything with a poll, but it is Saturday and wanted to make a drinking game.

And it is true, you guys love the polls and post a lot of them and not much on issue.

Drink!

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