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How Hillary Ruined Her Legacy As Secretary of State (Original Post) chervilant Nov 2015 OP
Already discussed: Metric System Nov 2015 #1
Ah, thanks. chervilant Nov 2015 #10
I almost skipped this due to the inflammatory headline. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #2
I used Ring of Fire's headline. n/t chervilant Nov 2015 #11
I know. I am not blaming you. But, I did almost skip it because of it. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #21
Do you think the Republicans chervilant Nov 2015 #25
Of course not and that is a huge problem with Hillary. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #26
Yes, and thus far, chervilant Nov 2015 #27
The R's would never have heard about it if not for the "disloyal Democrats" here on DU. Scuba Nov 2015 #59
In the medical business there are legal limitations as to what corporations and reps can... Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #40
this "report" is nearly 6 months old. nt msongs Nov 2015 #3
Oh, yes, and six months is such a LONG time... chervilant Nov 2015 #12
That doesn't mean it's inaccurate. Chef Eric Nov 2015 #48
The last statement about the reason it won't be heard is spot on. The banks and major corporations think Nov 2015 #4
This is why chervilant Nov 2015 #13
For sure redstateblues Nov 2015 #54
Really? chervilant Nov 2015 #56
David Sirota and the Ring of Fire folks are as honest and reliable journalists as you'll find tularetom Nov 2015 #5
Indeed, chervilant Nov 2015 #14
lol you want to "discuss this issue without personal attacks" moobu2 Nov 2015 #6
It is your opinion that one cannot criticise the frontrunner without it being a personal attack? JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #7
It is not that old of a story and it will no doubt haunt Hillary in her election quest. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #8
Here's the article from ROF on this discussion for those that can't/don't want to play the video. AtomicKitten Nov 2015 #9
I cannot imagine a more inept opposition chervilant Nov 2015 #15
They'll use it. I would wager a large swath of the populace has no idea about it. Juicy_Bellows Nov 2015 #16
Indeed. chervilant Nov 2015 #20
I don't think it's that simple. Chef Eric Nov 2015 #46
Are you kidding? tularetom Nov 2015 #17
I was being rather facetious, tt. chervilant Nov 2015 #18
Which VP? NT Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #47
Agnew, Nixon ' s VP - leading to a President who karynnj Nov 2015 #49
Agnew tularetom Nov 2015 #50
That's Three Stooges level inept. AtomicKitten Nov 2015 #22
Thank you for a most cogent summation. chervilant Nov 2015 #24
Truth. AtomicKitten Nov 2015 #28
Wow, thank you most sincerely. chervilant Nov 2015 #30
Hillary is dirty madokie Nov 2015 #19
Why, I honestly wonder, chervilant Nov 2015 #23
Clinton Cash Benghazi emails upaloopa Nov 2015 #29
Are you saying the report is not accurate? It's been widely reported and the actions ... Scuba Nov 2015 #60
Friends in the defense industry, wow, so who is taking the payoffs for Sanders from the defense Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #31
Do you think you are being clever? chervilant Nov 2015 #33
Since it appears this is to denigrate Hillary Clinton it needs to be noted Sanders votes Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #37
Actually, chervilant Nov 2015 #42
This was already discussed in June. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #43
Yeah, so we've been told... chervilant Nov 2015 #45
These two things are not even REMOTELY related... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #51
So say you. He voted to get them manufactured, gave his Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #52
Oh, yes... So, I can see why it's the same... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #58
We get it! Hillary is evil Bernie is pure. leftofcool Nov 2015 #39
This post has been posted about chervilant Nov 2015 #41
Republicans will find a series of scandals for any Dem. candidate... Mike Nelson Nov 2015 #32
Yes, those of us who've been politically active, chervilant Nov 2015 #35
No one, not even Repiglicans, will go after her on this issue FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #34
Apparently, chervilant Nov 2015 #36
No legs, for the reason stated. FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #38
oic... chervilant Nov 2015 #44
Nice Nazi reference! redstateblues Nov 2015 #53
Are you still here?!? chervilant Nov 2015 #57
Disgusting, but honestly it is just a confirmation of what I already was sure of. Bonobo Nov 2015 #55
Kicked. With legs. Scuba Nov 2015 #61
Thanks, Scuba. chervilant Nov 2015 #62

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
10. Ah, thanks.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:28 PM
Nov 2015

I see that very few people responded to that post, and none of the most vociferous of Hillary's supporters here on DU made an appearance to "discuss" the issue.

I think this is a critical issue for her, certainly one of the primary reasons I will have to "hold my nose" to vote for her if she becomes our nominee. Frankly, I tire of this type of candidate, with unarguably strong ties to Wall Street and the M/I corporate octopus. If we continue down this path, we'll only get more of the same.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
2. I almost skipped this due to the inflammatory headline.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:05 PM
Nov 2015

But there have been plenty of articles posted here regarding the Clinton Foundation scandal. It appears, this just may have legs and is not a pretty story.

This is exactly why we don't want candidates taking money from corporations. Even if it not completely true it gives appearances of impropriety.

In my office, we are forbidden to even let contractors pay for lunch to avoid any such appearance.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
21. I know. I am not blaming you. But, I did almost skip it because of it.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:01 PM
Nov 2015

It was your text in the body that made me watch it.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
25. Do you think the Republicans
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:17 PM
Nov 2015

will pass on the opportunity to use this information to derail Hillary's campaign?

I don't.

(And, I appreciate that you're not blaming me--I didn't want to color this report with my own verbiage.)

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
26. Of course not and that is a huge problem with Hillary.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:20 PM
Nov 2015

She keeps doing things that allow the Republicans to investigate her. And this one stinks to high heaven for anybody.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
27. Yes, and thus far,
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:24 PM
Nov 2015

only Bernie's supporters are delving into this report, to see if it has legs. Sad, really.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
59. The R's would never have heard about it if not for the "disloyal Democrats" here on DU.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 07:26 AM
Nov 2015

At least that's what I heard here on DU.

Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
40. In the medical business there are legal limitations as to what corporations and reps can...
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 06:29 PM
Nov 2015

give to doctors and if they do, there are redundancies in terms of disclosures so that when "Dr. Expert" is giving a lecture it is well known whether and if he/she is funded by the company that makes the drug/device he/she is talking about.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
12. Oh, yes, and six months is such a LONG time...
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:32 PM
Nov 2015

So, you think it should be "buried" so that Clinton and her campaign advisers can breathe a sigh of relief?

It's been years since the BFEE held sway over the Oval Office, and we're still clamoring to put those war criminals in prison. If Hillary has a reasonable rebuttal to this report, why can't we push for it? Now? Even "six months" after the initial report?

Six months...what a strange aspect of this report to throw up against the wall to see it it'll stick...

 

think

(11,641 posts)
4. The last statement about the reason it won't be heard is spot on. The banks and major corporations
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:14 PM
Nov 2015

own & control the media and these are the people Clinton is dealing with...

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
13. This is why
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:36 PM
Nov 2015

I remain hopeful about more and more people choosing to get their "news" from the internet. And, I find the naysayers who derisively sniff that the internet is "not a reliable journalistic source" rather patronizing in their inability to understand that many of us who peruse the internet resources are more than capable of searching for other sources and cross references, in order to form a cogent, informed opinion.

I think our younglings are the most internet savvy, and inquisitive, group, and it heartens me to know most of them are supporting Senator Bernie Sanders.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
54. For sure
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 10:09 PM
Nov 2015

If it's on the internet it's true. I get all the news I need from websites that agree with my opinions.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
5. David Sirota and the Ring of Fire folks are as honest and reliable journalists as you'll find
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:16 PM
Nov 2015

In my opinion every word of that story is factual. If Condoleeza Rice had done this while she was SOS, every Democrat in the country would be demanding her immediate arrest.

Oddly enough our famous liberal media seem to be ignoring the story that's sitting right under their noses.

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
6. lol you want to "discuss this issue without personal attacks"
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:17 PM
Nov 2015

while you post an old video attacking the front runner. Whatever.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
9. Here's the article from ROF on this discussion for those that can't/don't want to play the video.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:24 PM
Nov 2015
Hillary Clinton Helped Sell Weapons To Hostile Nations To Enrich Defense Funders
http://trofire.com/2015/05/28/hillary-clinton-sold-weapons-to-hostile-nations-to-enrich-defense-funders/

While Republicans have been distracted by phony scandals surrounding Hillary Clinton (like Benghazi), they missed one of the dirtiest scandals ever to emerge involving the former First Lady and current front-runner for the Democratic nomination in 2016. A damning new report from the International Business Times explains how Hillary Clinton used her position as Secretary of State to create a pay-to-play atmosphere for world leaders seeking military equipment and defense contractors looking to make a few extra billions.

Here is what the IBT report uncovered:

* The value of these sales to these countries were double the value of those approved by the Bush administration over the same period of time.

* Total sales topped $151 billion countries that gave to the Clinton Foundation. A 143% increase for those countries over what they got during the Bush years.

* Here is an example of how the pay to play scam worked: Saudi Arabia wanted F-15 fighter jets, which they received after making a $900,000 donation to the Clinton Foundation. Clinton personally approved that deal. This happened after Hillary complained about the country continuing to ignore the money that was flowing from Saudi Arabia to terrorist organizations. In short, she knew that the country was funding terrorists who were fighting American soldiers, and still was willing to sell them heavy artillery because they gave her group money.

* These countries that were receiving sweetheart deals from Clinton were violating human rights left and right, and that’s according to information that the State Department had. Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Qatar, Kuwait – all of these countries had been singled out by the State Department for things like corruption, violation of civil liberties, and violently retaliating against political opponents. But Hillary looked past all of these atrocities when she gave them massive weaponry.

* Algeria had been singled out as allowing “arbitrary killing” in the country and for having what they called widespread corruption. But after a half million dollar donation to the Clinton Foundation, they received a 70% increase in military weapon imports that included toxicological agents, biological agents, chemical agents. During her time at the State Department, Hillary approved $2.7 billion to the country of Algeria, which is almost triple what the Bush administration had sold to them in their last few years in office. Algeria had been put on watch by Hillary’s State Department for abuses such as human trafficking, their practicing of “disappearing” political and social dissidents, and for allowing violent criminals to kidnap, rape, and terrorize citizens in areas of the country without actively trying to stop them.

But when you’re giving hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Secretary of State’s charity, those egregious human rights abuses can be swept under the rug to make room for your new shipment of chemical weapons. Legally, these countries are not allowed to make political donations to U.S. politicians if they are seeking arms deals from the government, but there is no law that prevents them from making charitable donations. And that’s how they were legally able to bribe Hillary Clinton. National security experts even came forward at the time and said that these donations represented a very serious conflict of interest. Their warnings went unheeded. But the real winner in all of this was the defense industry.

At the same time that Clinton was approving massive arms deals to hostile countries, Bill Clinton was making the rounds on the speaking circuit being paid as much as $625,000 for each event. These events were sponsored by companies like Boeing, General Electric, and Lockheed Martin. At one event, MSNBC hosts Mika Brzeninski and Joe Scarborough served as the emcees of the event while their employer – General Electric – reaped huge benefits from Hillary’s deals with these countries.

Another great example is when Goldman Sachs paid Bill $200,000 to speak at an event at the same time that they owned a part of defense contractor Hawker Beechcraft, who received a $675 million deal less than two months after Bill’s speech. This story expertly defines who Hillary Clinton really is, and who she looks after when in a position of power. America cannot afford another defense industry hack as president – we’re still picking up the pieces from W’s destruction.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
15. I cannot imagine a more inept opposition
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:40 PM
Nov 2015

than a Republican Party that chooses NOT to use this report against the Clinton campaign. This could be a devastating blow to her campaign.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
16. They'll use it. I would wager a large swath of the populace has no idea about it.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:48 PM
Nov 2015

They're nuts but not stupid on that side of the aisle - they'll use it when appropriate.

EDIT - well a lot of them are dumb as day old cheddar but that wasn't my point.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
20. Indeed.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:01 PM
Nov 2015

That's precisely what I was facetiously implying. The Republicans successfully participated in derailing Hillary's first run for POTUS. I fully anticipate they will double down this time. This report must be sheer gold for them.

Chef Eric

(1,024 posts)
46. I don't think it's that simple.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:10 PM
Nov 2015

If accurate, this story would do much more than expose Hillary as unethical.

It would also expose the corporations that run this country (some of which own the media) as unethical.

And therefore, the media would likely bury it. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the Republicans can't do much damage to Hillary if nobody is watching or listening.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
17. Are you kidding?
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:53 PM
Nov 2015

The republicans are just jealous that they didn't think of this scam themselves.

This isn't some GOP wet dream like Benghazi, it isn't even an example of Clinton's poor judgment like emailgate. Its a case of outright, blatant, overt criminality, the use of ones appointed office for personal gain.

A vice president of the US was forced to resign because of a similar pay to play scheme. State and local politicians have gone to jail for less.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
18. I was being rather facetious, tt.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:59 PM
Nov 2015

I fully anticipate that the Republicans will use this and any other nefarious report (or hint of malfeasance) to destroy Hillary Clinton. I cannot imagine that they'd let this one slide. That's what I was getting at.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
49. Agnew, Nixon ' s VP - leading to a President who
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:26 PM
Nov 2015

Never ran a national election. Ford was nominated and approved by the Senate as a replacement VP. Then Nixon resigned.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
50. Agnew
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:36 PM
Nov 2015

His little scam took place while he was involved in local politics, before he emerged on the national scene.

As a county executive in MD, he had the responsibility for selecting professional consulting engineers to work on various county projects (roads, bridges, county buildings etc.). He would then negotiate an inflated contract price with them with the excess going directly into his pocket. I don't think he was even subtle enough to create a campaign fund for that purpose.

I remember thinking at the time, wow, this guys got a lot of balls, but he would be in awe of the tactics of the Clinton "Foundation".

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
22. That's Three Stooges level inept.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:03 PM
Nov 2015

The GOP's fondest dream is staring them in the face and they just can't seem to see it. They ran Benghazi through the faux outrage machine seven times and got nada, zip, goose-egg. It's TNT just waiting for the fuse to be lit, and the fear is that the veil will be lifted and they will pummel Hillary with it if she makes it to the general election. If that happens, the Democrats will lose on something known beforehand and ignored.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
24. Thank you for a most cogent summation.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:15 PM
Nov 2015

This is precisely why I want to know if this story has legs. If it does, we are positioned to witness Hillary going down in flames yet again.

We stand on a precipice, facing a CRITICAL decision for 2016, a decision that could remove the corporate megalomaniacs who've usurped our media, our politics AND our global economy. Hence, I am most discouraged by the amount of energy I see wasted here on this forum, every single day, DUers denigrating fellow Democrats because of the candidate they support.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
28. Truth.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:28 PM
Nov 2015

I take your admonition to heart and am guilty of spinning my wheels in this forum. I intend to remedy that because there is real, proactive work to do.

Best regards.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
30. Wow, thank you most sincerely.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:34 PM
Nov 2015

Almost every single time I post my support of Bernie, I observe that "we MUST have each others' backs!" I mean this most sincerely, because the vast Hoi Polloi can (and WILL, I hope) stand against the corporate megalomaniacs, IF we stand united.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
23. Why, I honestly wonder,
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:10 PM
Nov 2015

do none of her DU supporters join in discussions about this and other "dirty" Hillary issues? It's ***crickets***, sadly.

Furthermore, most of the rants I see about Bernie Sanders are merely broad brush condemnations of his supporters. As though every single one of us exists only to denigrate Hillary, using language most foul.

I'm sure we would find in BOTH groups of supporters those whose utterances are bigoted and extremist. However, if our political discourse remains at the "slogging through the slime" belittling of each other over bigotry and verbal slights, we likely will not benefit from any effort to ascertain which of our candidates is most worthy of our support.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
29. Clinton Cash Benghazi emails
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:32 PM
Nov 2015

All right wing bull shit scandals used by Bernie supporters because they have run out of Bernie talking points with nothing to show how they get done.
Soon we will be getting this from the repubs but for now it serves the Bernie fans so they use it.
Sad your campaign is so lacking in substance you have to use right wing swift boat tactics.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
60. Are you saying the report is not accurate? It's been widely reported and the actions ...
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 07:30 AM
Nov 2015

... even defended by some of Hillary's supporters. Why would they defend it if it were not true?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
31. Friends in the defense industry, wow, so who is taking the payoffs for Sanders from the defense
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:35 PM
Nov 2015

Industry, he votes for extension of contracts all of the time, guess this will ruin Sanders congressional career.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
33. Do you think you are being clever?
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:42 PM
Nov 2015

Throw in a little verbal riposte to denigrate Senator Sanders?

This OP is about a report that suggests Hillary Clinton used her position as Secretary of State to enrich her personal coffers, and those of her foundation, by trading arms deals for lucrative speaking engagements. Can you not speak to this report?

While I doubt sincerely that Bernie Sanders has the same type of report lurking around out there to derail his campaign, please do take the time to post such a report, in a separate OP, so that we might discuss it.

Otherwise, you may have to count yourself among those of the ilk who denigrate fellow Democrats for supporting someone other than their own favorite candidate, then resort to personal attacks in lieu of intelligent discussions.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
37. Since it appears this is to denigrate Hillary Clinton it needs to be noted Sanders votes
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 06:19 PM
Nov 2015

For lots of funding to defense contractors and a comparison should be made since both are running for president. It would only be fair to the voters to point out the activity of the candidates.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
42. Actually,
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 06:44 PM
Nov 2015

my initial response to this post was "This can't be true!" Now, granted, I support Senator Sanders at this point, but that may have to change when we find out who is our party's nominee. If that nominee is Clinton (and, yes, I get that you are quite confident that Clinton will be the nominee), will reports like this one, which may or may not have legs, derail her campaign? It's truly a simple question, and one which I believe must be answered.

I know that, if this report is accurate, I have even more reason to support Senator Sanders.

(You don't have to designate every OP exploring negative reports about Hillary as intended to "denigrate" her. If this report has legs, she has sole responsibility for the actions that resulted in said report. Good luck with supporting that.)

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
51. These two things are not even REMOTELY related...
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:39 PM
Nov 2015

Your attempt at making them equal reveals what you're willing to say to ignore any relationship between the defense industry and the political elite who are in bed with them.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
39. We get it! Hillary is evil Bernie is pure.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 06:26 PM
Nov 2015

This crap brought to you by the GOP anti=Hillary brigade has been posted about 1000 times already

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
41. This post has been posted about
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 06:37 PM
Nov 2015

a thousand times already?!? Wow! I didn't know it was that many!

Must have legs, then. Wouldn't that be your take away?

Mike Nelson

(9,960 posts)
32. Republicans will find a series of scandals for any Dem. candidate...
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:35 PM
Nov 2015

...and it doesn't matter if the scandals are real or fake. They will find them, anyway.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
35. Yes, those of us who've been politically active,
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:53 PM
Nov 2015

some for decades now, are quite aware that each party works hard to find dirt on their opponents in order to sway public opinion in support of their own candidate (and party).

I wonder why you felt the need to add this observation, which strikes me as a sort of "No duh!" response to my OP. Did you watch the video? Do you have any thoughts about the content of the video? Do you think this particular "scandal" is real? Do you think the Republicans are saving this one to derail Clinton after she "earns" the nomination?

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
34. No one, not even Repiglicans, will go after her on this issue
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:45 PM
Nov 2015

It involves sales dollars for the MIC. It is off-limits for discussion and not granted status as to be part of the dialogue. Hillary is brilliant and has this base covered.

On EDIT: Rand Paul may do it if he is the nom

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
36. Apparently,
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:59 PM
Nov 2015

it is not "off limits" for Ring of Fire. And, I cannot imagine the Republicans passing on this one as they double down to derail Hillary's campaign.

(I, too, am a Breathed fan, but I do not think Hillary is "brilliant." I think she has learned quite well how to maneuver in the corporate milieu, and that is one of the reasons I posted this OP. Please speak to the report: legs or no legs?)

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
38. No legs, for the reason stated.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 06:21 PM
Nov 2015

and "brilliant" isn't necessarily a attribute that serves only noble intentions.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
44. oic...
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 07:02 PM
Nov 2015

You do have a penchant for stating the obvious. (You don't have to be coy: most of us know that Goebbels is often touted as brilliant, but look to what ends he used his intellect. It's truly not a mystery that

"'brilliant' isn't necessarily a attribute that serves only noble intentions.")


I would like to keep the focus on Hillary Clinton, and this report. If, as countless Clinton supporters aver in the "thousands" of posts like this one -- "Clinton will be our nominee!" -- do you think that the Republicans will ignore this information in their quest to derail her candidacy? Should we just keep mum, and hope they don't? Should we, as one DUer intimated herein above, understand that since this is about MIC resources, the subject matter will be verboten, no matter who seeks to use it against her? Or, is that magical thinking rearing its misbegotten head?

I am saddened by the level of discourse in this forum. It's worse than the last time we had two Democratic nominees vying for our votes. We have GOT to work together to determine which of our candidates is best suited for POTUS at this particularly challenging time in our nation's history. The nomination is still many weeks out, and I'm not convinced that Clinton would survive a Republican assault on her record, save by virtue of the fact that all of the Republican candidates are characterized as train wrecks. And, that is not exactly a ringing endorsement of Hillary Clinton.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
55. Disgusting, but honestly it is just a confirmation of what I already was sure of.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 10:28 PM
Nov 2015

It is what you get when you have a person that does not have a strong moral compass.

I have said it over and over.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
62. Thanks, Scuba.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:48 PM
Nov 2015

I have been amazed at the responses I've gotten to my inquiry about this report. I wonder if the responses herein above are somewhat representative of the DU population of frequent posters. Probably not, as I don't think I have seen the most fervent Clinton supporters, and I would so appreciate some feedback from that group.

Anyway, I do agree with you. I think this report has legs, and it bodes badly for Hillary, and for the Democratic Party--especially if the Republicans use it (and I don't think we can "hope" that they won't).

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