Which sounds better?

[berni_mccoy]

A) "I'm never gonna vote for a black man!"
B) "I'm never gonna vote for a woman!"
C) "I'm never gonna vote for an old man!"
D) All of the above are EQUALLY offensive and should not be tolerated!

[Agschmid]

1. E) Silence.

Don't feed the trolls.

Both sides have them and they are HUNGRY.

[MineralMan]

2. Who here has said any of those things?

I've not seen it. If you have, please post links.

[berni_mccoy]

3. Here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251860455

And I urge you to go down the discussion thread. Believe me, Hillary supporters are being apologists and saying Age Is a Valid Issue.

[LiberalArkie]

4. Or how about the posts about his hernia surgery?

[JoePhilly]

5. The post you link to does not say what your OP says.

Age can be a topic of discussion, particularly given the history of Ronald Reagan, but I don't think I see anyone making the statements you have in your OP.

[berni_mccoy]

6. Wrong. It raises his age as an issue. And you know it.

And there are people that say it's ok for us to discuss because voters will care... just like they care about race or sex.

[Agschmid]

9. Your exact words...

"I'm never going to vote for an old man"

It doesn't exist on DU.

You made it up.

[berni_mccoy]

14. Sanders Age is Being Raised a Valid Issue of discussion. The exact words

don't need to be said, even though some Hillary supporters have said that would be ok.

[Agschmid]

19. It's not a valid issue...

They are both old.

OLD.

OLD.

Yes, if you want a young candidate it ain't either one of them. Both of them are almost a decade older than my parents.

When you post an OP like this all you do is stir shit up, it's called disruptive meta discussion.

If you don't think age is a valid issue (which it "is" and "isn't&quot don't make a whole extra meta OP about it.

[berni_mccoy]

23. Wow, how Rovian of you. I'm not the one raising age as an issue. Hillary supporters are.

[Agschmid]

26. I see you've got your catch phrase...

They are both old.

There is no denying that.

It's not an issue for me, and has no weight on my decision about who I'm voting for.

Thanks for the personal attack, well played.

[JoePhilly]

15. Age can be an issue. See Ronald Reagan.

Its an issue that can be discussed, and then probably dismissed wrt our Dem candidates.

But to pretend that it is not an issue is silly.

The founders actually included AGE as one of the only TWO conditions for being President. You must be at least 35 years old to run for President.

Perhaps you should demand that the Constitution be changed so that anyone of voting age be allowed to become President.

At least that would be consistent.

[berni_mccoy]

22. Except it isn't. It's called agism

There are plenty of people who won't vote for a woman because she's a woman. Does that make it an issue?

There are plenty of people who won't vote based on race. Does that make it a valid issue.

The fact that you can't identify ageims as an issue says everything it needs to about you.

[Agschmid]

27. It's not ageism to say someone is old, when they are in fact old.

[berni_mccoy]

29. It is ageism to use it as a way to get people to vote against them.

[Agschmid]

32. I would suggest just letting people vote for who they want to.

I know that's wicked "Rovian" of me...

[JTFrog]

33. Apparently it's only ageist against Bernie...

Because when it was said about McCain... it was a legitimate issue.

He likely won't make it his full term and you'll be left with <Fill-in-the-blank-incompetent-bush-bot-#-2>

McCain was younger than Bernie is now in 2008.

Just sayin...

[Agschmid]

7. The thread you linked to does not have any posts which reflect your thoughts in the OP.

[berni_mccoy]

11. Bullshit.

From the thread: "So it is ok then to say "Hillary is a woman, voters have doubts about her ability to be...
DCBobSure.. I suspect some voters might have that on their mind when considering "

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=860697

[Agschmid]

13. I don't think that says what you think it says...

Because it clearly doesn't say "I'm not voting for an old man"

Again, you have just made shit up.

[berni_mccoy]

16. I know you don't want to admit it, but Hillary supporters are at this moment validating

that Sanders age is a valid voting issue.

Is Hillary's sex?
Is Obama's race?

[JoePhilly]

17. I'm starting to think that DESPERATION is a new phase ...

... in the grieving process.

Not sure how else to interpret the claims this guy is making.

[berni_mccoy]

18. Only ones who are desperate are the ones raising Sanders age as an issue.

[Agschmid]

20. He is at this point just making it up as he goes.

It's OTT.

[MineralMan]

25. I'm 70. I could handle such a job, but am not

qualified for it. However, if I sought it, I would expect people ask questions about my health, and would have a complete exam at a very extensive level. I'd make the results public, down to any imaging and blood panels. That's what I'd do.

Nobody in that thread said any of the things you listed. Nobody. Age and health are valid concerns for such high level offices. They simply are.

[berni_mccoy]

28. I know you support Hillary and so you are turning a blind eye to the agism being committed here

Being an apologist doesn't make it right either.

His age is simply not an issue no matter how you cut it. Saying someone is old can't handle the job is saying all old people are incapable. The simple fact of the matter is that some can. So apologize for your fellow Hillary fans if you want. But I find the OP and several others in this forum on the topic as offensive as questioning Hillary's being a woman.

[MineralMan]

31. I speak for nobody but myself.

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If Sanders is the nominee, he will have support and vote. Still nobody said what you posted. I read every post. I'm not a stupid man. I read and comprehend very well indeed. With that, I'm done with this topic.

[Agschmid]

10. DUzy.

[LiberalArkie]

12. Yea, I thought about it for a second and sensed about 2148713616381 alerts hitting the system.

[Agschmid]

21. Something like that...

I got it if that makes you feel better, haha.

[LiberalArkie]

24. I was trying to come up with something non offensive and it did not look that bad until

I did a second take. My TG friends would have laughed about a person doing all that, but not some people here.

[seabeyond]

30. Health issues with age are legitimate concerns, that all of us will eventually reach, hopefully.

Not voting for someone because of gender and race is a tad different, ya think?

To be clear, it is your argument that is a fail. I have already stated elsewhere Sanders age is not my concern with him.