Hillary's Health issues worries me

[UglyGreed]

Her staff watched her closely and we all know how she had trouble remembering her trip to Bosnia blaming sleep deprivation.....

{snip}

Mrs. Clinton, 65, was admitted to NewYork-Presbyterian/Columbia hospital on Sunday after a scan discovered the blood clot. The scan was part of her follow-up care for a concussion she sustained more than two weeks earlier, when she fainted and fell, striking her head. According to the State Department, the fainting was caused by dehydration, brought on by a stomach virus. The concussion was diagnosed on Dec. 13, though the fall had occurred earlier that week.


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/03/us/politics/hillary-clinton-is-discharged-from-hospital-after-blood-clot.html?_r=0

Never mind rejoicing the death of Gaddafi

There may be more to HRC's issues than meets the eye.....

[Thinkingabout]

1. WTH are you trying to say?

[UglyGreed]

6. Her health may be

more troubling then we are allowed to know. You have to admit that video is disturbing to say the least.

[Thinkingabout]

9. Maybe an opinion from a medical professional to explain concussion would benefit many.

[UglyGreed]

13. CTE is nothing to laugh about N/T

[Thinkingabout]

22. Who is laughing?

[UglyGreed]

24. Sorry I was not saying

you were laughing, it is a serious condition and we all should not take it lightly.

[Thinkingabout]

30. She nor her medical doctors have taken this lightly, not so sure

What this post concerned about her concussion after she has released her medical records. I know Karl Rove wanted to push this but judging from her eleven hour testimony recently what gives you so much concern?

[MrMickeysMom]

32. I think you an get the idea of how ridiculous it is...

... when you see the model of ridiculous OP - http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=860455

[Thinkingabout]

45. Us this what this op is about? My o My, got it now, I am ready to take my toys

And go home. I have not seen anything which lowers the age on either person, it is silly.

[BlueCaliDem]

65. Can you post a link showing that Sanders has released his medical records?

If he hasn't, why not? Hillary Clinton has already done so, so this OP is merely a defense tactic to deflect from Sanders having to go in for surgery. But I'm real curious now why Sanders hasn't released his medical records. Aren't you?

[MrMickeysMom]

85. This conversation is so fucking ridiculous...

Can't you see that?

[BlueCaliDem]

51. They're being defensive by attacking Hillary Clinton

because Sanders had to go to the hospital today for an operation.

[darkangel218]

59. It's a minimally invasive/low risk elective procedure.

It will not affect him any in the future weeks months years.

Try again.

[BlueCaliDem]

62. Okay, I'll try again...let's see his medical records.

He's yet to release them. Why would that be?

[darkangel218]

64. Im sure he will release them soon, if he hasn't already.

Nothing in his pasts suggests that he had had any serious medical issues, unlike Mrs. Clinton.

[BlueCaliDem]

66. He hasn't already.

Nothing in his pasts suggests that he had had any serious medical issues, unlike Mrs. Clinton.

Or so you say, but you're just guessing. LET'S SEE HIS MEDICAL RECORDS.

[darkangel218]

68. He hasn't had any serious health issues in the past!! Has he???

Unlike Mrs Clinton!!!
I am worried about her. With a blood clot history, having to fly all around the world, for the next 4 to 8 years??

Sanders has none of these issues. How long has be been a senator?? He's up and about every day.

You should look at the facts objectively.

[BlueCaliDem]

69. We don't *know* that, do we? He isn't a national name and he's yet to release his medical records.

So you're just guessing (hoping?) that he hasn't had any serious health issues.

Unlike Mrs Clinton!!!

She's released her medical records AND she kicked GOP butt at the umpteenth BANGHAZI witch-hunt tribunal committee, and still looked fresh as a daisy while Trey Gowdy looked cooked.


I worry about Bernie. I'm wondering why he hasn't released his medical records. Is his staff hiding something? Oversight?

That, dear darkangel, is thinking objectively.

[darkangel218]

70. You don't know??

Hillary's health problem should concern you , not Bernie's. A history of life thrreatning blood clots is nothing to minimize, much less ignore.

And btw, didn't you start the OP about Bernie's elective surgery?? I'm pretty sure it was you, unless I'm wrong.

[BlueCaliDem]

71. No. I don't know since he hasn't released his medical records to the public. And he should before

speculation about his health gets out of hand - as we're now seeing at DU.

A history of life thrreatning blood clots is nothing to minimize, much less ignore.

People shouldn't also ignore she got a clean bill of health, thanks to her releasing her medical records.

And btw, didn't you start the OP about Bernie's elective surgery?? I'm pretty sure it was you, unless I'm wrong.

No.

[darkangel218]

72. Martin O'Malley hasn't released his records either yet.

And sorry about the confusion. OP about Bernie's procedure was started by another "cali' poster.

Are you going after Martin O'Malley too?

[BlueCaliDem]

74. Has O'Malley gone in for surgery recently?

No? So why again does that matter in this discussion unless it's to deflect?

[darkangel218]

76. Do you even realize what a selective hernia repair surgery is????

It is nothing that would carry any consequences in the future!!! It's a simple procedure which is performed lapparascoplically most of the time.

It can't even be compared with the history of blood clots that Hillary has. Not even close.

[BlueCaliDem]

79. Is that really all he went in for? How can we be sure? How is his health really?

He might be suffering other ailments that are far more serious than blood clots or hypothyroidism (the latter easily treated with OTC pure iodine, by the way).

Unless and until he releases his health records, we have every right to question if he's healthy enough to be POTUS, and those who are not already 100% in the tank for him, will.

[darkangel218]

80. Thats all he went in for. Are you speculating now???

Where is your proof you're questioning O'Malley health status too?? Link me to your past posts please!

[BlueCaliDem]

90. No. I'm making the point that WE DON'T KNOW anything about Sanders' health.

And, no, I'm not going to veer off into a discussion about O'Malley since his health and lack of health records are NOT at issue here. But nice try.

[Cali_Democrat]

2. Hillary released her medical records

Bernie has yet to do that.

[BlueCaliDem]

53. He hasn't done that yet??

[Cali_Democrat]

88. Not yet.

I'm sure he will be pressured to do so.

[BlueCaliDem]

91. After this surgery, he'll have no choice but to do so.

But since Hillary Clinton has released her health records back in July, why hasn't Sanders released his health records? What is he waiting for?

[Kentonio]

95. Oh knock it off for goodness sake

You're starting to sound like a birther. The op is bad enough. How about we do something wild and crazy like debate the candidates on their positions instead of this crap?

[BlueCaliDem]

96. You first. What I ask is a legitimate question (although Sanders supporters don't like it), and the

health condition of our future president is very important to the vast majority of voters. It will make or break his/her chances, no matter how wonderful their policy ideas sound.

Sanders has yet to release his health records while Hillary Clinton had done so back in July. She's shown hers, when will he show his? Or are we just to assume he's in excellent health? Isn't hopeful assumption the very foundation of the birther argument and resulting movement?

So don't be throwing them birther stones when you're the one standing in a glass house.

[azmom]

3. She's often confused.

[JoePhilly]

5. And yet she still kicked GOP ass for 11 hours!!

[Jesus Malverde]

15. Jury says...

Right wing smear, and conspiracy theory. Please hide this disruptive post.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Nov 30, 2015, 05:40 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: WTF?
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Isn't all criticism of HRC, "Right wing smear, and conspiracy theory"?
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Not a right wing smear, the confused comment came from her aid Huma Abedin, in the last batch of emails released by the state department.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: This meme is sexist and ageist. She and Bernie both are very sharp minded.
I am a Bernie supporter.

[JoePhilly]

4. How did she look during the 11 hours being grilled by the RW psychos???

Maybe you missed it.

[redstateblues]

8. Let's change the subject from Bernie's surgery

Honestly he looks like he could blow a gasket when he rants during his stump speech

[JoePhilly]

10. meh ...

... Bernie will be fine ... he'll have the surgery, and recover fine ... and his standard blustering ... it probably helps his circulation.

Now, if he starts to turn red in the face, then I might worry.

This entire discussion is silly.

[UglyGreed]

18. This entire discussion is silly.

Exactly, that is the point of this thread.........

[MrMickeysMom]

33. I still had to remind people of that...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=860455

[BlueCaliDem]

67. That's exactly what this OP is trying to do.

Deflect! Deflect! Deflect!

[darkangel218]

75. Deflect from what??

Bernie had a minimally invasive procedure, nothing that it would affect his life or job as POTUS in the future.

A history of blood clots on the other hand, is a whole different issues.

[BlueCaliDem]

77. DEflect. Not 'reflect'.

Bernie had a minimally invasive procedure, nothing that it would affect his life or job as POTUS in the future.

I'll repeat...we don't know that. It's just guessing (wishful thinking?). Until he releases his health records, I'm not going to just have faith that he's healthy enough to be POTUS. Be honest...were the tables turned, you'd be demanding that Hillary Clinton release her health records, so why this special benefit-of-the-doubt for Bernie Sanders?

A history of blood clots on the other hand, is a whole different issues.

If that really concerns you, then you might concern that Sanders is suffering something like that, too. At his high age, there's bound to be health issues that might affect his job as POTUS, but we don't know for sure because he hasn't released his health records.

On this, Sanders is clearly losing, and up until he releases his health record, it's going to get worse.

As a reminder, Hillary Clinton released her health records at the end of July this year. Why hasn't Sanders followed her lead?

[darkangel218]

78. I corrected it. I'm posting from my cell.

If Sanders was suffering from anything close to that, we would have known by now.
He's not a newcomer, he's been a senator for a long time.

Try again.

[BlueCaliDem]

82. I saw that. It wasn't necessary, but thank you.

If Sanders was suffering from anything close to that, we would have known by now.

Why? There was no need for him to make his health records public as Rep and then Senator of Vermont. He's never run for president before where it is necessary. So that's not a strong excuse.

[darkangel218]

83. The point is,

The OP would have never happened, if HRC supporters had not starred their attacks against Bernie to begin with.

This is bottom line.

[BlueCaliDem]

84. I know what your point is. And we'll leave it at that.

[darkangel218]

86. Fair enough

[Metric System]

7. She's in better health than your candidate of choice, if we're playing this game.

[coyote]

41. This game was already started by a Clinton in another thread

Thus you are seeing this thread. It's fair game.

[Gregorian]

11. Everyone on the right is a fascist. End of subject.

[elleng]

12. HRC's health is NOT one of the things about her that concerns me;

there ARE substantive issues, however, which is where the discussion here should be.

I'm tired of reading all the 'polling' threads, as if polls were the only things happening.

[Bleacher Creature]

14. Really? This is acceptable?

A talking point that Karl Rove started? A three-year-old video?

It's getting hard to take this place seriously.

[jeff47]

42. Well...this was acceptable.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251859847

[Bleacher Creature]

55. I disagree. Both are ridiculous.

I won't defend that one either. This all needs to stop.

[jeff47]

56. Feel free to voice that on the other thread. (nt)

[darkangel218]

16. And the mandatory alert

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Hillary's Health issues worries me
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251860867

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This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

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This is completely inappropriate for DU. This is getting pathetic. Grow the fuck up and discuss actual issues. This divisive bullshit is making DU suck more than it ever has.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Nov 30, 2015, 06:40 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
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Explanation: How is it inappropriate?? There was just an OP questioning Bernie's health. How is this post more inappropriate than the other???!
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Explanation: A candidate's health issues have been fair game since at least 1960. The first public mention of JFK's Addison's disease came at the 1960 Democratic convention. Given that Wilson had a debilitating stroke in office and Ike suffered two heart attacks during his time, a candidate's health is an "actual issue."

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[UglyGreed]

21. Thanks for posting

I had a feeling this would happen...........

[darkangel218]

23. No problem.

It is sad how one sided their alerts are.

[UglyGreed]

25. I noticed

even had a thread on the subject.......

[FloridaBlues]

17. She looks and thinks very capable no need to worry.

She has put for worth her medical

[Thinkingabout]

19. Some people function better than most on the worse day of their life

Than the others do on their best day. Hillary would be one who functions better on her worse day, take it to the bank she testified eleven hours and did quiet well in her two debates. If you are worried ask Sanders and O'Malley if she was functioning well in the debates, neither got one up on her.

[Zynx]

20. Good God, are we going to get into this sort of thing? This is beneath contempt.

Honestly, this is the sort of crap that makes people, sometimes including myself, tune out politics.

Think on the slime you're slinging out of some kind of irrational hatred. You are not raising this issue innocently. It's shameful and dishonest.

[Bleacher Creature]

29. Think about where this slime started.

http://pagesix.com/2014/05/12/karl-rove-hillary-clinton-may-have-brain-damage/

You would think that using a Karl Rove TP would make a person rethink their entire strategy.

[riversedge]

35. Wasn't it Rove who started the whisper campaign smear about Ann Richards of TX and

hinted she was a lesbian. I think I recalled this right. If not let me know. The OP is the same as Rove. Nothing different-just a different person that the OP is targeting for a vile smear. And more shame--a jury said it ok for DU to smear a Democratic candidate.

[Bleacher Creature]

36. Yep. One of many of his "greatest hits"

http://www.thenation.com/article/exactly-how-karl-rove-works/

[jeff47]

40. Like this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251859847

[jeff47]

38. Actually, this particular one probably started with this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251859847

[RandySF]

26. Some of you are just repulsive.

[jeff47]

37. Feel free to mention that in this thread from 6 hours ago

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251859847

[Beacool]

94. That, they are............

[Jesus Malverde]

27. I don't think her Gaddafi video is an indication of her health.

It was more being giddy at the fall of the Libyan leader. They ran a program to overthrow him and it was successful.

Libya went from being one of the most successful states in Africa, a leader in financing African projects to being a wasted basket case, a still warring divided failed state.

Perhaps even more worrying for US and European domination of the continent were the huge resources that Gaddafi was channelling into African development. The Libyan government was by far the largest investor in Africa’s first ever satellite, launched in 2007, which freed Africa from $500million per year in payments to European satellite companies. Even worse for the colonial powers, Libya had allocated $30billion for the African Union’s three big financial projects (5), aimed at ending African dependence on Western finance. The African Investment Bank – with its headquarters in Libya – was to invest in African development at no interest, which would have seriously threatened the International Monetary Fund’s domination of Africa – a crucial pillar for keeping Africa in its impoverished position. And Gaddafi was leading the AU’s development of a new gold-backed African currency, which would have cut yet another of the strings that keep Africa at the mercy of the West, with $42billion already allocated to this project – again, much of it by Libya.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/09/06/natos-war-on-libya-is-an-attack-on-african-development/

Today Africa is once again dependent on western financing and the US military has scores of bases on the continent. #KONEY2012, #SAVEOURGIRLS, and #EBOLA all resulted in deployments of US troops to Uganda, Chad and Liberia.

[UglyGreed]

43. .

When the Libyan arm of the Islamic State first raised the group’s black flag over the coastal city of Surt almost one year ago, it was just a bunch of local militants trying to look tough.

Today Surt is an actively managed colony of the central Islamic State, crowded with foreign fighters from around the region, according to residents, local militia leaders and hostages recently released from the city’s main prison.


“The entire Islamic State government there is from abroad — they are the ones who are calling the shots,” said Nuri al-Mangoush, the head of a trucking company based here in Misurata, about 65 miles west of the Islamic State’s territory around Surt. Many of its employees live in Surt, and five were jailed there recently.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/29/world/middleeast/isis-grip-on-libyan-city-gives-it-a-fallback-option.html?_r=0

[bobbobbins01]

28. No candidates health bothers me

This back and forth about both Hillary and Bernie is stupid and petty.

[DCBob]

31. I think the marathon Benghazi interrogation removed all doubt about Hillary's health..

and capacity to handle a difficult stressful situation both physically and mentally. She appears ready to go.

[darkangel218]

39. So does Bernie.

Yet that doesn't stop some questioning his health.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, doncha think?.

[DCBob]

44. Yes Bernie does appear to be in decent health.

I do question if he has the stamina to keep it up at a high level throughout a lengthy grueling general election campaign. Its tough even on the younger folks. He has never done anything like this in the past. Running for Vermont Senate is like a walk in the park compared to running for President.

[darkangel218]

46. So you DO question him.

Expect us to question Hillary then too.

That freaking simple.

[DCBob]

48. You dont get it.

[darkangel218]

49. I guess not.

It is not Bernie supporters who started the health issues posts today.

Don't dish it if you can't take it* and all.

[DCBob]

52. Hillary has has proven herself fit for the job.

Not sure Bernie has.

[darkangel218]

54. So you're proving my point.

Your choice, but don't try to silence others if they address the same subjects then.

[DCBob]

57. I believe i am allowed to argue my point of view anyway I want.

This is a discussion board.. correct??

[darkangel218]

58. Of course.

[Romulox]

34. The video in the OP sends shivers down my spine. Absolutely horrific. nt

[Baitball Blogger]

47. You need to stop this nonsense now.

Hillary is a sharp lady. She has proven that over and over again. Those of us who disagree with her, disagree with her on a political basis.

[darkangel218]

50. Hillary supporters started it.

Are you going to post the same in their threads?

[Baitball Blogger]

63. Saw that after I posted.

Carry on.

[Vattel]

60. Yes, I worry about her mental health. Not really, lol, but this is a nice parody. Thx.

[Kalidurga]

73. I have no problem with her health issues.

However, she is in dire need of a corpratectomy and a mendacitectomy. Fix those things and I will gladly vote for her.

[pa28]

81. Me too. A sanitized two page summary is not "releasing medical records".

Especially for someone with a history of serious medical problems.

[840high]

87. DailyMail (us) - has this

discussion today.

[Dem2]

89. Is there a feature...

"Trash all - latest copycat controversy threads"?

There should be.

[doc03]

92. Gee she isn't the one in the hospitol getting operated on, is she?

[Beacool]

93. Small minded, petty and nonsensical.

Then again, that applies to most post here.