2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumO'Malley: 'There is a better way' than Clinton, Sanders offer.
'The choice between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders for the Democratic presidential nomination is a choice between "crony capitalism" and the "proven failure of socialism," Martin O'Malley told reporters on Tuesday.
"There are profound differences in this race--the economy we build is a product of the choices we make," he said after a meeting with the House Democratic Caucus.
"And between the sort of crony capitalism, Wall Street capitalism, and an economy of the few, buy the few and for the few, and the proven failure that is socialism, there is a better way forward. And it is fair market American capitalism where when people work hard, they are able to get ahead.
When asked by The Hill if he believed that Democrats faced that exact choice in the primary, O'Malley said flatly: "Yes."'
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/261612-omalley-there-is-a-better-way-than-clinton-sanders-offer
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Because that's the socialism that Bernie is talking about.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Expanding Social Security
https://martinomalley.com/the-latest/expanding-social-security/
Making College Debt Free for all Americans
https://martinomalley.com/policy/make-college-debt-free/
National Service
https://martinomalley.com/national-service/
Environment
https://martinomalley.com/climate/iowa/
https://martinomalley.com/climate/
https://martinomalley.com/climate/agenda/
Campaign Finance Reform (Restoring our American Democracy)
https://martinomalley.com/the-latest/restoring-our-american-democracy/
Veterans and Military Families
https://martinomalley.com/policy/veterans/
I must say, I'm not entirely clear what he means when he says this, as it appears that much of what they both seek is similar. Governor O'Malley's advantage, however, is that he has implemented many similar plans in Maryland, so has proven experience in getting things done.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)elleng
(130,976 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)I used to have some respect for him.
The only "proven failure" that we see time after time is the failure of capitalism.
O'Malley has turned to red scare tactics.
elleng
(130,976 posts)which is perfectly appropriate, you change your approach from calling those with whom you disagree 'dumbasses.'
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)I think my response is perfect for someone who uses red scare tactics.
I will not suffer fools gladly.
bigtree
(85,999 posts)...I think it should be fair game in American politics to reject the label of 'socialism' in the context of an economic debate, or a debate about government services. It's not a Democratic party philosophy. It wasn't FDR's philosophy, even though his social policies drew from Socialist party influences. I don't think he ever called himself or his policies 'socialist.'
It doesn't hold some huge negative for me, but I'm not going to start identifying my political philosophy as 'socialist' anything. If Sanders of his supporters can't understand that, then so be it.
I don't have any problem at all with O'Malley clearly defining his politics as apart from whatever Sanders is trying to evoke with his Democratic Socialist' label. He can't expect other candidates to just fall in line with his contrived and ill-defined political identification.
It's a political lightning-rod in U.S. politics. It's obviously designed to provoke and it shouldn't come as some surprise that others would seek to distance themselves from the negative reactions it invites. He brought this to the table and he's going to have to bear it by himself. O'Malley's not in this primary to carry either Hillary's or Sander's political water.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Now, there are many variations under that one label.
I support "The means of production owned by the workers" form of socialism.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)I wouldn't think of him that way. For real "red scare"... choose from whatever columns under the GOP.
I see that O'M has been a good governor and has walked the walk.
elleng
(130,976 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Sorry Ellen, but he's blowing his chance of picking up many Sanders supporters. I suspect he's also blowing it with Clinton supporters too, or those who are non-committed but kind of like Clinton.
When he uses idiotic terms like the "proven failure of socialism" and misrepresents what Sanders really stands for...it is either ignorant or so cynical that it dismisses him from consideration.
He could criticize Sanders on specifics, or even say Sanders goes a little too far in his rhetoric and goals, and that would be okay.
But he's sounding like a typical disingenuous politician...and one that is getting so desperate he is also losing sight of intelligent strategy.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)democratic socialism (or socialist democracies) are doing well in other parts of the world, and socialist style medicine is going to happen here eventually...it has to. perhaps even a base income for all.
his policies seem to incorporate the socialist tendencies he is criticizing....not sure whats up with that other than campaign rhetoric perhaps.
brooklynite
(94,603 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)but expect nothing for that service? What does he even mean?
think
(11,641 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)It worked on me. He is no longer my second choice. WTG.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)O'Malley still believes that 100,000 arrests in a city of 600,000 is a great idea.
BALTIMORE Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake said Wednesday she will not combat crime by returning to the days of so-called mass arrests of minor offenses.
In an opinion-editorial piece published Wednesday in The Baltimore Sun, Gov. Martin O'Malley stepped up his campaign to get the city to go back to what he did when he was mayor: have a policing policy that led to more than 100,000 arrests per year -- many for minor offenses.
The mayor and governor are widely seen as friends, but they are not on the same page on this issue and the continuing debate, the mayor said, is causing many communities to worry.
"Homicides are going up for the second year in a row, and shootings are up year to date. Why? I believe it has to do with the fact that enforcement levels have fallen to a 13-year low," the governor wrote.
O'Malley called critics of his policy "ideologues on the left." . . .
"Honest minds can differ, but this honest mind is also fact-dependent, and the data show that more arrests didn't lead to a safer city," Rawlings-Blake countered Wednesday.
The mayor's office produced a chart showing a steady decline in violent crime since 2006 -- the year O'Malley left City Hall -- and arrests reached their peak. It was to counter a chart produced by the governor to argue otherwise.
In some communities, the tactic was known as "the bad old days" when so many people got locked up that the line at Central Booking was long.
More: http://www.wbaltv.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/mayor-vows-not-to-return-to-days-of-mass-arrests-in-baltimore/22118078
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