Are Neocons Getting Ready to Ally With Hillary Clinton

[tecelote]

"Even as they castigate Mr. Obama, the neocons may be preparing a more brazen feat: aligning themselves with Hillary Rodham Clinton and her nascent presidential campaign, in a bid to return to the driver's seat of American foreign policy."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/06/opinion/sunday/are-neocons-getting-ready-to-ally-with-hillary-clinton.html

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MORE WAR.

Hillary is the neocons best bet - better than the Republican options.

It's time America gave up the war profits and stopped the killing.

[Buzz Clik]

1. Are Skinheads getting ready to kill people who don't vote for Sanders?

No.

Has Pol Pot been reincarnated as Bernie Sanders's campaign manager?

No.

Does Bernie Sanders use flame throwers in caves in an attempt to kill endangered bats?

No.

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This is fun!

[el_bryanto]

2. Would Neocons find an Clinton presidency or a Sanders presidency more to their liking?

Seems like it would be a Clinton Presidency to me, but I guess other people may disagree.

Bryant

[Buzz Clik]

3. Neocons. Are there any left anywhere?

By the way, you need to speak to some on your tribe who are pounding the drum that Sanders has this awesome appeal with Republicans.

[arcane1]

4. The answer to that question is in the article.

Which I assume you read before posting, no?

[Buzz Clik]

8. Sure, and here you go:

Mark Salter, a former chief of staff to Senator McCain and a neocon fellow traveler, said that in the event of a Paul nomination, “Republican voters seriously concerned with national security would have no responsible recourse” but to support Mrs. Clinton for the presidency.

Huh. So, the basis of all this bullshit is that in the impossible event that Rand Paul is elected president, the neocons would abandon Paul for Clinton.

Wow.

[arcane1]

16. You left out part

I'm sure it was an oversight:


Other neocons have followed Mr. Kagan’s careful centrism and respect for Mrs. Clinton. Max Boot, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, noted in The New Republic this year that “it is clear that in administration councils she was a principled voice for a strong stand on controversial issues, whether supporting the Afghan surge or the intervention in Libya.”

And the thing is, these neocons have a point. Mrs. Clinton voted for the Iraq war; supported sending arms to Syrian rebels; likened Russia’s president, Vladimir V. Putin, to Adolf Hitler; wholeheartedly backs Israel; and stresses the importance of promoting democracy.

It’s easy to imagine Mrs. Clinton’s making room for the neocons in her administration. No one could charge her with being weak on national security with the likes of Robert Kagan on board.

[Mnpaul]

24. she was a principled voice for a strong stand on controversial issues

That is not the Hillary I remember. I remember Hillary dodging every last one of those issues when she was in the Senate.

[tecelote]

19. The important phrase here is...

"...Republican voters seriously concerned with national security would have no responsible recourse but to support Mrs. Clinton for the presidency."

Hillary is Republican light.

[Buzz Clik]

21. IF Paul wins the nomination.

[tecelote]

22. Yes. If Paul wins. Then all Republicans should vote for her.

Otherwise, she is still a neocon favorite.

Bought and paid for.

[Buzz Clik]

23. Yes, I see the logic here.

Some guy writes an opinion piece and quotes some other guy who we are to believe represents the new generation of neocons. And this neocon says that if Rand Paul, who currently is polling below the margin of error, gets the GOP nod, then he and his HUGE horde of neocons will be forced to vote for Hillary. So that means that Hillary is the new Queen Neocon. It also implies that Paul is to the left of Hillary, and anyone to the right of St Bernie is a neocon. Thus, the only two politicians on the national stage who are NOT neocons are Bernie and Paul.

Awesome!

You can only get this sort of thing from DU.

[Skidmore]

5. This.

Progressivists are having problems with the tent.

[Buzz Clik]

9. Read the fucking article.

Jesus. This thread is based on pure ca-ca.

[Skidmore]

10. I did.

And I agree.

[Buzz Clik]

11. Really.

Noted.

[NCTraveler]

15. I love it when they don't read before replying.

Amazing the mental gymnastics that come from republicans. What amazes me even more is how some on the "left" eat it up and run with it.

[el_bryanto]

6. Ah - Tribalism. Interesting.

So you'd say I'm being a bad member of the Sanders Tribe by suggesting that American Hawks - those who want to see continued militarism - would be happier with a Clinton Presidency? I don't really go to the tribal meetings; I'm not really a joiner. It's not surprising I've missed something.

But when I consider which candidate is more likely to engage in military adventurism, Sanders or Clinton, an answer comes immediately to mind.

Bryant

[Skidmore]

13. He's right.

The tribe is confused.

[el_bryanto]

17. Well maybe it's because the Sanders Tribe is made up of individuals who come up with their own

opinions and don't feel the need to agree with everything every other Sanders supporter says.

Bryant

[Skidmore]

20. Consider that perhaps

this is true for all of us.

[Buzz Clik]

14. No, I didn't say that. What I said was perfectly clear. Try again.

[Attorney in Texas]

7. Are the Patriots Getting Ready to Ally With Tom Brady?

[Buzz Clik]

12. You're suggesting that Clinton is actually quarterbacking the neocons at this moment?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

18. Isn't that "stay allied"?

[Scuba]

25. No. They've been allied for a long, long time.

[GoneFishin]

26. They like war and giving taxpayer money to their rich friends. And she won't stand in their way.

So yeah, maybe.