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riversedge

(70,246 posts)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 09:25 AM Dec 2015

Clinton Leads Sanders: Primary voters R very confident in Her ability to handle Economy & Terrorism

[b]Great news for Hillary and her Team





CBS News December 10, 2015, 6:34 PM

CBS/New York Times poll: Hillary Clinton continues to lead Democratic field



http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-nyt-poll-hillary-clinton-continues-to-lead-democratic-field/


By Anthony Salvanto, Jennifer De Pinto, Sarah Dutton and Fred Backus

Hillary Clinton continues to lead Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders by 20 points: She receives 52 percent of Democratic primary voters' support, while Sanders gets 32 percent.
Just 2 percent support former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley.

Clinton leads among many voter groups - men, women, liberals, moderates, non-whites and voters over age 45. But Sanders performs better with voters under 45 and independents.


Handling the Issues

Clinton has an advantage over Sanders on two important issues: more Democratic primary voters are very confident in Clinton's (81 percent) than in Sanders' (65 percent) ability to handle the economy and terrorism...........


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Clinton Leads Sanders: Primary voters R very confident in Her ability to handle Economy & Terrorism (Original Post) riversedge Dec 2015 OP
This is interesting yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #1
Don't feed into the hyperbole. Amimnoch Dec 2015 #3
And I know that Hillary will carrry through with her proposals for the economy. riversedge Dec 2015 #6
One can think that HRC would be good for the economy, but BS would be better. thesquanderer Dec 2015 #37
Glad so many others see what a wonderful President she could be. Amimnoch Dec 2015 #2
K AND R! Good for the economy and NatSec. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #4
Fuschia is her color. It's very flattering. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #5
I was thinking Fuschia but have to admit riversedge Dec 2015 #7
I think it makes her look younger. I should try it. LOL Laser102 Dec 2015 #9
Why not..... riversedge Dec 2015 #13
I was going to say the same thing! n/t cosmicone Dec 2015 #8
bwahahahaha .... that "R" is -so- telling. you have no idea. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #10
That is what you get for low thinking. riversedge Dec 2015 #11
You post. I laugh. Do it again! Hiraeth Dec 2015 #15
I get text messages that say things like: R U there yet? MoonRiver Dec 2015 #22
let me be Frank - always did like that song Hiraeth Dec 2015 #40
He had a beautiful voice! MoonRiver Dec 2015 #45
I think it "tells" more about the reader (or their motives) than the writer. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #16
and your cover is still safe with me Hiraeth Dec 2015 #18
LOL :-) NurseJackie Dec 2015 #24
so easy. Nurses for Bernie !! there now. out in the open. good to see you laughing. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #39
Your secret is safe with me, Hiraeth. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #42
There is a conspiracy under every rock. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #17
I don't know about conspiracy. Headline at it's low finest is all. Silly me. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #19
"Headline at it's low finest is all. " lol considering your "observation." nt. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #20
good lord. you guys. all tore up about a little fruedian slip. get over yourselves. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #36
No idea what you R talking about. lol. This is great. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #38
IKR Hiraeth Dec 2015 #41
Busted!!!!! You used an upper case R!!!! It tells me everything!!!! lol. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #44
Bernie's campaign stumbled badly workinclasszero Dec 2015 #12
Hillary Clinton - The Most Qualified Candidate For President In Our Lifetime Alfresco Dec 2015 #14
WOW SmittynMo Dec 2015 #21
I am very well read thank you. Alfresco Dec 2015 #29
Well said.... riversedge Dec 2015 #25
HRC is very Unqualified in matters of national security Martin Eden Dec 2015 #32
The voters in the Democratic primary will ultimately decide qualifications. Alfresco Dec 2015 #43
That's impossible Martin Eden Dec 2015 #48
I can understand your frustration. Alfresco Dec 2015 #49
You understand jack Martin Eden Dec 2015 #50
Well I'm one Primary voter that has zero confidence in her SoapBox Dec 2015 #23
Too many right wing OPs on these two subjects from her supporters AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #26
You got dat right! n/t RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #27
How is this a right wing OP? yardwork Dec 2015 #31
Her supporters are posting right wing OPs on these two subjects AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #46
Staying strong for Hillary! Bernie still stuck in low 30's. FloridaBlues Dec 2015 #28
Well after a police union in NH endorsed a bigot and apparently taking selfies Iliyah Dec 2015 #30
That's about the only union that hasn't comradebillyboy Dec 2015 #47
I always contended she should run as a Republican.... modestybl Dec 2015 #33
Sanders is with the Republicans on gun issues and others issues, in fact Sanders has been Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #51
UNTRUE. ... has been consistent with gun policy... modestybl Dec 2015 #52
He voted five times against the Brady Bill, he voted to give immunity to manufacturers, Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #53
Twenty two years ago, and listening to his CONSTITUENTS... modestybl Dec 2015 #55
He can give all the excuses he wants to give. His no vote is what the Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #57
HRC NEVER apologized for that vote... modestybl Dec 2015 #59
BTW... why did HRC accept the endorsement of Heidi Heitkamp with an A rating... modestybl Dec 2015 #56
Now, really tell me how Hillary can control how someone votes who endorses her. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #58
This unpolled Primary voter is NOT very confident in her abiilty to handle the economy or terrorism EndElectoral Dec 2015 #34
It's very hard to tell, but this thread is for . . FairWinds Dec 2015 #35
KICK! Cha Dec 2015 #54
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
1. This is interesting
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 09:28 AM
Dec 2015

I trust him more on economy, but trust her more on protecting us. Can we have both?

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
3. Don't feed into the hyperbole.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 09:53 AM
Dec 2015

During the 8 years of her husbands Presidency, we experienced a surplus budget, huge job growth, and the economy that was foundering post Reagan/Bush Sr was turned around and a HUGE success.

It took another Bush to come in and ruin that momentum in short order.

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
37. One can think that HRC would be good for the economy, but BS would be better.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:20 PM
Dec 2015

Also, it is a tricky line to walk, to associate HRC with her husband's successes but then try to avoid associating her with his less popular positions.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
2. Glad so many others see what a wonderful President she could be.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 09:51 AM
Dec 2015

Here's to the hope of 8 more years of progress after President Obama!

riversedge

(70,246 posts)
7. I was thinking Fuschia but have to admit
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 10:23 AM
Dec 2015

I wondered after you asked but have always thought magenta as a darker pink-purple.


Eeeks


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magenta


Image result for What color is magenta?

On the RGB color wheel, magenta is the color between rose and violet, and halfway between red and blue. This color is called magenta in X11 and fuchsia in HTML. In the RGB color model, it is created by combining equal intensities of red and blue light.
Magenta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MagentaWikipedia

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magenta&h=220&w=220&tbnid=1x-LCp8KvU5_UM:&tbnh=160&tbnw=160&docid=b6uGpLHvwMOZIM&usg=__d6WveRFbOH9r_uY57ge1PE991w0=&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiN5oD-_9PJAhXE4CYKHbPrCAkQ9QEIITAA

riversedge

(70,246 posts)
13. Why not.....
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 11:03 AM
Dec 2015

but it is style also. Makes her look great--and it is not trivial. Peoples first impressions of anyone matter--IMHO

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
10. bwahahahaha .... that "R" is -so- telling. you have no idea.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 10:57 AM
Dec 2015

I just snorted coffee out my nose. Thanks.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
22. I get text messages that say things like: R U there yet?
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 11:39 AM
Dec 2015

And, how surprising, they come from my Democratic family and friends! Who knew they were closet (R)epublicans!

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
45. He had a beautiful voice!
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:44 PM
Dec 2015

But I would love it if my favorite Italian restaurant would play something but Sinatra, just once, pretty please. .

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
16. I think it "tells" more about the reader (or their motives) than the writer.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 11:23 AM
Dec 2015

Your meaning in the OP's title is obvious. The reader's attempt to interpret it as "telling" falls flat.

It's described as another one of those mysterious "telling" moments, but as per usual, they never quite get there. What exactly is it supposed to "tell"? We never know, and they never say. Why?

Do they not elaborate because they know that to do so would put them at risk of having a hidden post? Or, do they not get too specific because they actually lack specifics? Or, do they remain vague so that they can create the illusion of being a part of some "inside-joke" or that only the "right-people" are privy to?

Not that it matters. But it's fun to watch.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
24. LOL :-)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 11:41 AM
Dec 2015

The "I've-got-a-secret" style of posting must be a thing that's becoming popular. It certainly makes it easy to make a "point" without actually stating what the point is. (Ergo, it's easy to defend when there's nothing to defend, or to give the appearance of being "in-the-know" or to have some deep understanding of a topic.)

It also makes it easy to make an accusation or insult without actually doing so. (Again, such things are not subject to being hidden because no insult was actually spoken.)

Not really big deal... but interesting to see how it seems to be catching on.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
17. There is a conspiracy under every rock.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 11:27 AM
Dec 2015

Then again, some people claimed to be "confused" by the logo. lol. It's getting more and more funny by the day.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
44. Busted!!!!! You used an upper case R!!!! It tells me everything!!!! lol.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:41 PM
Dec 2015

Shit. I turned over a rock and look what was there.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
12. Bernie's campaign stumbled badly
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 11:01 AM
Dec 2015

on foreign policy and terrorism. His people tell the press not to ask questions about it.

What are they thinking?

Alfresco

(1,698 posts)
29. I am very well read thank you.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 11:56 AM
Dec 2015

If you take the Bernie blinders off you would come to the same conclusion.
Have a Wonderful Day.

riversedge

(70,246 posts)
25. Well said....
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 11:43 AM
Dec 2015

In solidarity!




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Martin Eden

(12,872 posts)
32. HRC is very Unqualified in matters of national security
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:13 PM
Dec 2015

The rise of ISIS is the direct result of our extremely ill-advised invasion & occupation of Iraq, which Hillary voted for.

Bernie Sanders showed far superior judgment in this matter.

Alfresco

(1,698 posts)
43. The voters in the Democratic primary will ultimately decide qualifications.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:37 PM
Dec 2015

I have every confidence it will be Hillary Clinton and she will eventually become our 45th President.
Good Day.

Martin Eden

(12,872 posts)
48. That's impossible
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:38 PM
Dec 2015

Qualifications are what they are, regardless of the voters. Just look at polls of Republican voters; if you go by that, Donald Trump is the most qualified candidate among the GOP hopefuls. Based on experience and positions held at high levels of government, Dick Cheney was among the most qualified Vice Presidents in history.

Actual record and policy is what matters.

Of course Democrtaic voters are not Republicans and Hillary Clinton is not Dick Cheney, but the voting public in general (including Dems/independents) are not all well informed and fully engaged with the issues and records of the candidates.

Who showed better judgment in the run-up to war in Iraq -- Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders?


Alfresco

(1,698 posts)
49. I can understand your frustration.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:49 PM
Dec 2015

Bernie's revolution is not doing so well. Everything is going to be fine. I promise.
Have a Donut.

Martin Eden

(12,872 posts)
50. You understand jack
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:57 PM
Dec 2015

(and my name isn't Jack)

I understand you either can't or won't address the substance of the issue I raised.

I couldn't care less about Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton personally, but I care a great deal about the future of our country.

What's hard to understand is why so many Democratic voters don't seem to care about the perpetual war that drains our treasury and recruits terrorists, or about the stranglehold the big money Wall Street players have on our economy.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
23. Well I'm one Primary voter that has zero confidence in her
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 11:39 AM
Dec 2015

other than she would embroil us in more endless involvement in crap that other countries need to be dealing with.

Her sabre rattling and War Hawk stance, combined with her complete and total dedication to big money, big power, Banksters and Billionaires is an offense to millions of us.

I have no trust or confidence in her at all.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
26. Too many right wing OPs on these two subjects from her supporters
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 11:47 AM
Dec 2015

Don't even have to read between the lines anymore. Lately they have been going full Monte.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
46. Her supporters are posting right wing OPs on these two subjects
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:54 PM
Dec 2015

Moving further and further rightward. Taking up GOP positions. We see where this is headed.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
30. Well after a police union in NH endorsed a bigot and apparently taking selfies
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:03 PM
Dec 2015

I trust the NH Democrats to bring NH to a win for HRC.

Go Hillary!

 

modestybl

(458 posts)
33. I always contended she should run as a Republican....
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:15 PM
Dec 2015

... and Sanders has been running consistently better than HRC in polls against Repubs... the country needs HRC to join the Repubs...

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
51. Sanders is with the Republicans on gun issues and others issues, in fact Sanders has been
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 02:56 PM
Dec 2015

brought back to the left in the debates with MOM and Hillary on the gun issue.

 

modestybl

(458 posts)
52. UNTRUE. ... has been consistent with gun policy...
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 04:39 PM
Dec 2015

Sanders represents his VOTERS a donor class... and has been consistent on gun policy for years... as early as 1990 being for an assault rifle ban.. even voting against the overwhelming wishes of his constituents on occasion... go beyond talking points:

http://www.salon.com/2015/10/10/what_bernies_gun_control_critics_get_wrong_partner/

HRC pulling Sanders to the right? What a joke. She is a political windsock... last time around she was Annie Oakley:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/12/clinton-touts-her-experience-with-guns/

With a D- rating from the NRA, Sanders is not with the Repubs on that issue, or any other issue. Really, HRC supporters have NOTHING... but their candidate has the backing of Wall Street.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
53. He voted five times against the Brady Bill, he voted to give immunity to manufacturers,
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 05:30 PM
Dec 2015

And dealers, this is not left wing standings on this issue. He is getting pulled left recently because of MOM and HRC stands on gun issues. It is his voting record.

 

modestybl

(458 posts)
55. Twenty two years ago, and listening to his CONSTITUENTS...
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 07:42 PM
Dec 2015

... in a state of high gun ownership levels. He also argued that some restrictions should be at the state level, not the Federal level.

Gun manufacturers don't have "blanket immunity", but the liability that was in that gun control legislation would have unfairly penalized gun store owners - also part of Sanders constituency. Not to mention, many legal experts have determined that the courts would rule against a

But Sanders has favored for years federal legislation banning straw man sales and penalizing gun dealers that knowingly cooperate in those..

I understand that HRC supporters are desperate to exploit anything they can against Sanders... and that's the only thing they can come up with...

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
57. He can give all the excuses he wants to give. His no vote is what the
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:28 PM
Dec 2015

NRA wanted and the Republicans wants. I have not seen the same excuse accepted by many on HRC vote on IWR, it was families of many who were killed who was HRC constituents. She has explained her vote and apologized for the vote, Sanders continues to say he comes from a rural state, maybe he does not know there are ma y other states which has large rural areas. No, I do not give him a pass on the way he has voted on gun issues.

 

modestybl

(458 posts)
59. HRC NEVER apologized for that vote...
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 09:11 PM
Dec 2015

...she merely came up with a reversal and claimed that she "acted in good faith" .... after seeing the intelligence reports. The reports that lead many of her colleagues to vote against. HRC is not stupid. She wasn't "wrong" ... she was calculating.

She IGNORED her constituents in the run up to that vote.

No one is asking anyone to give Sanders a pass on anything... and I don't agree with all of his positions, but I see where he comes from. You obviously disagree.

But my fundamental problem with HRC is not only her horrific judgement, including her recommendation for military intervention in Libya, but her fundamental dishonesty. We will be paying for the Iraq War for decades, a million dead Iraqis, hundreds of thousands of dead or injured Americans. And she has shown no sign that she has learned anything.



Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
58. Now, really tell me how Hillary can control how someone votes who endorses her.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:30 PM
Dec 2015

Every voter can choose who they vote.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
35. It's very hard to tell, but this thread is for . .
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:19 PM
Dec 2015

Hillary worship only.

If you criticize HRC's positions or policies,

you will get flicked.

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