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pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:31 AM Dec 2015

NYT: FOUR Sanders campaign user accounts improperly accessed proprietary HRC-gathered voter data.

The Sanders campaign is blaming this on the software vendor -- but they have fired a staffer over this. Presumably for a good reason.

And the NYTimes reports that there were 4 Sanders campaign email accounts that improperly accessed the information.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/dnc-sanders-campaign-improperly-accessed-clinton-voter-data/2015/12/17/a2e2e14e-a522-11e5-b53d-972e2751f433_story.html

Officials with the Democratic National Committee have accused the presidential campaign of Sen. Bernie Sanders of improperly accessing confidential voter information gathered by the rival campaign of Hillary Clinton, according to several party officials.

Jeff Weaver, the Vermont senator’s campaign manager, acknowledged that a low-level staffer had viewed the information but blamed a software vendor hired by the DNC for a glitch that allowed access. Weaver said one Sanders staffer was fired over the incident.

The discovery sparked alarm at the DNC, which promptly shut off the Sanders campaign’s access to the strategically crucial list of likely Democratic voters.

The DNC maintains the master list and rents it to national and state campaigns, which then add their own, proprietary information gathered by field workers and volunteers. Firewalls are supposed to prevent campaigns from viewing data gathered by their rivals.

SNIP

Officials said they were unlikely to ask for a criminal investigation. However, Sanders could face political fallout from the impression that his staff worked to gain an unfair advantage.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/12/18/sanders-campaign-disciplined-for-breaching-clinton-data
/

The Democratic National Committee has told the campaign of Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont that it was suspending its access to its voter database after a software error enabled at least one of his staff members to review Hillary Clinton’s private campaign data.

The decision by the party committee is a major blow to Mr. Sanders’s campaign. The database includes information from voters across the nation and is used by campaigns to set strategy, especially in the early voting states.

The breach occurred after a software problem at the technology company NGP VAN, which gives campaigns access to the voter data. The problem inadvertently made proprietary voter data of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign visible to others, according to party committee officials.

The Sanders campaign said that it had fired a staff member who breached Mrs. Clinton’s data. But according to three people with direct knowledge of the breach, there were four user accounts associated with the Sanders campaign that ran searches while the security of Mrs. Clinton’s data was compromised.

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NYT: FOUR Sanders campaign user accounts improperly accessed proprietary HRC-gathered voter data. (Original Post) pnwmom Dec 2015 OP
Did the DNC say that this has been a problem before, and the Sanders campaign told them so? winter is coming Dec 2015 #1
The Sanders campaign has fired a staffer. Apparently they didn't train their staffers pnwmom Dec 2015 #2
Not looking at the big picture here, are we? HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #3
More here. There were 4 Sanders campaign emails accounts pnwmom Dec 2015 #4
That article also says that the Sanders Campaign's data was vulnerable as well HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #11
And you still don't get it. The big picture is that this is a problem the DNC has has in the past, winter is coming Dec 2015 #14
The Sanders Director is accountable for the nasty snoopy. You shifting blame is not good optics riversedge Dec 2015 #24
Hey! Read the board. artislife Dec 2015 #5
Oh yeah? Where is the NYTimes story mentioning the 4 email accounts that pnwmom Dec 2015 #6
This gets you in a tizzy but H emails and server doesn't. Got it. nt artislife Dec 2015 #7
All that "holier than thou" Bernie's-so-pure stuff gets old. n/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #9
What a phony analogy. The transitive properties of R B Garr Dec 2015 #12
But this is HUGE!!! Because there were FOUR accounts! It's the END of Bernie's CAMPAIGN! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #8
This is the last I will post on this i**** OP artislife Dec 2015 #10
It's best to let them sink. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #13
Well you can read and rec my post in defense and make it go up in count. madfloridian Dec 2015 #18
Berniegate! What did they know and when did R B Garr Dec 2015 #15
"The Sanders campaign is blaming this on the software vendor -- but they have fired a staffer over Cha Dec 2015 #16
And the staffer is the "national data director." Not some little volunteer. n/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #17
Oh really? I hadn't gotten that far yet.. thanks for info, pnwmom. Cha Dec 2015 #19
Here's more on that. pnwmom Dec 2015 #20
Thank you! Cha Dec 2015 #21
Sanders campaign staffers complained about this MONTHS AGO. senz Dec 2015 #22
So what? Their National Data Director got fired today for improperly pnwmom Dec 2015 #23

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
2. The Sanders campaign has fired a staffer. Apparently they didn't train their staffers
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:38 AM
Dec 2015

properly to deal with this.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
11. That article also says that the Sanders Campaign's data was vulnerable as well
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:52 AM
Dec 2015

This whole thing stinks, and the timing is suspect. Now, I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but you have to admit this comes at a convenient time for other campaigns when Bernie just picked up two major endorsements, crossed the 2 million contributions threshold, and the next debate is on Saturday. It's also funny how none of those things made much of a peep in the news, but this story is beginning to make headlines.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
14. And you still don't get it. The big picture is that this is a problem the DNC has has in the past,
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:54 AM
Dec 2015

that the Sanders campaign has told them about repeatedly, yet it's still happening, but somehow that didn't make it into the WaPo article. I wonder why, and I wonder why the DNC hasn't found a competent vendor by now.

riversedge

(70,306 posts)
24. The Sanders Director is accountable for the nasty snoopy. You shifting blame is not good optics
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 06:05 AM
Dec 2015

for your candidate. I give the campaign credit for firing him. Making excuses does not do you or supporters any good.



Sanders campaign accesses Clinton data, gets suspended from party voter files

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/18/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-dnc-suspension/

By Catherine Treyz, CNN

Updated 3:29 AM ET, Fri December 18, 2015


.............The New York Times said the staffer was the campaign data director. Searches were run from four user accounts while data from Clinton's campaign was exposed, the Times said. But it's difficult to say what that means, since one person could have had more than one user account.

The Sanders campaign will remain suspended until it provides the DNC with a full explanation of the episode and provides proof that any accessed data has been discarded. ................

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
6. Oh yeah? Where is the NYTimes story mentioning the 4 email accounts that
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:45 AM
Dec 2015

were involved in improperly searching the data?

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
8. But this is HUGE!!! Because there were FOUR accounts! It's the END of Bernie's CAMPAIGN!
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:47 AM
Dec 2015

Lots of wishful thinking going on around here, from the same people who have a fit whenever Hillary's little email trouble gets brought up.

They didn't even read the article, it clearly states that Bernie's info was vulnerable too.

It's today's Poutrage Du Jour!



 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
10. This is the last I will post on this i**** OP
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:51 AM
Dec 2015

Last edited Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:26 AM - Edit history (1)

because this is how the damn count goes up. The OP writers answer the posts.... Vicious cycle and it is totally stupid.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
13. It's best to let them sink.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:53 AM
Dec 2015

Plus if we respond when they bait us it just gives them more opportunities to alert on our posts.

It's that time of the night.

R B Garr

(16,979 posts)
15. Berniegate! What did they know and when did
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:59 AM
Dec 2015

they know it.

Seriously, though, someone got fired which implies wrongdoing. This sounds ongoing (they ran searches) from multiple accounts. If you are running searches, that is a serious breach of a willful nature, not simply a vendor mistake.

Cha

(297,692 posts)
16. "The Sanders campaign is blaming this on the software vendor -- but they have fired a staffer over
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:06 AM
Dec 2015
this. Presumably for a good reason."

You don't fire someone for no reason.

"Officials said they were unlikely to ask for a criminal investigation. However, Sanders could face political fallout from the impression that his staff worked to gain an unfair advantage."
 

senz

(11,945 posts)
22. Sanders campaign staffers complained about this MONTHS AGO.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:57 AM
Dec 2015

But they didn't take it to the media; instead they tried to be professional about it. They should have raised a big public stink about DWS' operation.

“On more than one occasion, the vendor has dropped the firewall between the data of different Democratic campaigns,” he said. “Our campaign months ago alerted the D.N.C. to the fact that campaign data was being made available to other campaigns. At that time our campaign did not run to the media, relying instead on assurances from the vendor.”


This was a software failure that the DNC was aware of and did not fix.

If anyone on the Clinton campaign tries to make this into something it's not, it's going to bite them.

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
23. So what? Their National Data Director got fired today for improperly
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:59 AM
Dec 2015

accessing the proprietary information -- even though he obviously knew he was wrong. And the campaign says he was wrong.

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