2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie's former staffe explains the breach on CNN
(CNN)The Bernie Sanders campaign staffer who was fired for accessing data unique to the Hillary Clinton campaign's vote file, told CNN on Friday that he was only trying to "understand how badly the Sanders campaign's data was exposed" and not attempting to take data from the Clinton campaign.
"We knew there was a security breach in the data, and we were just trying to understand it and what was happening," said Josh Uretsky, reached by phone on Friday morning, a day after the campaign let him go.
He added, "To the best of my knowledge, nobody took anything that would have given the (Sanders) campaign any benefit."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/18/politics/sanders-dnc-data-breach-josh-uretsky/index.html
This explanation makes perfect sense to me
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Why didn't they pick up a phone?
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Instead, he got four users on the application to access data.
That's watergate level shit right there.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Jarqui
(10,130 posts)Uretsky and his team notified people within the Sanders campaign of the breach on Wednesday and the news worked its way up the chain of command. After reporting it to the campaign, Uretsky said he intended to call the DNC to inform officials there. But before he could do that, the DNC called him.
This all happened within 30 minutes according to the reports I've seen. That's not a lot of time.
He sees something wrong. He checks out the scope of the breach to assess for protecting their own data or being in a position to explain how broad their data exposure was. He calls some folks in his campaign to report and explain what he could about it. Maybe while he's talking to a second person, the first calls the software vendor. We don't know the details yet.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)The fact is, he got four people on accessing Clinton campaign data when he should have immediately called the vendor.
That's watergate level shit right there.
Jarqui
(10,130 posts)The software vendor leaves the door open to my data, I'd want to know my exposure before the door closes. Not doing so could get me fired.
The guy was between a rock and a hard place.
This isn't watergate level shit whatsoever.
Watergate involved a sneaky scheme, a criminal break-in and paying people off. This involved someone looking around to see what might have been stolen when they found the door to their secure data inexplicably left open.
Watergate involved a cover up that went right to the top. There is zero evidence of anyone trying to cover anything up. The only suspicious activity here is to determine whether the Clinton campaign leaked it to the media to wrongly embarrass Bernie.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)Just how long do you let security holes remain until you try to figure out your exposure?
On an utterly unrelated topic, please point me to your customer database.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)They breached her data. So another campaign looked.
This happened in 2002 in the JEB! vs. McBride race for governor. JEB got the dem list during a maintenance of NGP and sent a hello to everyone on the Dem candidate list to be 'funny'.
The campaign filed a complaint but was told, that is your party's fault, not Jeb Bush's. He took advantage of an opening, left by your software vendors. Case closed.
My question is why after all of these years, does DWS still not have someone who can run that software?????????
And to punish someone else and fuck up their campaign, is not a way to mobilize voters to win a general election. Look out. Stupid is as stupid does. DWS should have been fired a long time ago. Has she fired this incompetent worker yet??????? Or still blaming Bernie???
This is utterly disgusting. If DWS does not apologize, I will not participate in the general election. I will not reward incompetent party actions, then blamed on another's DEMOCRATIC campaign.
aspirant
(3,533 posts)wonder how that happened?
peacebird
(14,195 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)moobu2
(4,822 posts)"Uretsky says he got into the system to create a record to make it clear to anyone with NBG-VAN knowledge that he was "going through stuff that I wasn't supposed to have access to."
So who has the records now?
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Seeing if he could create a record where he is not supposed to be allows him to see if other people can create records in his data.
moobu2
(4,822 posts)So I have to break into someone else's house and take their valuables in order to see if someone could break into mine? It's amazing the lengths people will go to to excuse information that conflicts with the artificial bubble world they've let themselves get trapped in.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Nope.
Doors keep appearing in your house. You complain that these doors keep appearing, and the vendor says they will stop it. Months later, doors are still appearing.
Eventually, you need to start opening those doors to figure out how much danger you are in, because it has become obvious the vendor will not fix it.