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pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:54 PM Dec 2015

Weaver at Presser says: nobody saved data. Bloomberg says data logs say: people saved data.

Last edited Fri Dec 18, 2015, 06:25 PM - Edit history (3)



Update: I just found this. So there is a clear conflict here, still to be resolved:

http://www.ksla.com/story/30783481/sanders-campaign-denies-stealing-voter-data-threatens-legal-action

(RNN/CNN) - The campaign manager for Bernie Sanders strongly denied accusations they saved confidential voter information for Democratic rival Hillary Clinton after improperly accessing a protected database.

SNIP

"In the heat of these campaigns, sometimes young people make misjudgments," Weaver said. "No data that I'm aware of was saved in a way that could be used by anybody."


http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-18/sanders-campaign-fires-data-director-after-breach-of-clinton-files

Sanders’ campaign has sought to downplay the severity of the incident, initially saying that only a single “low-level” staffer accessed the Clinton data and that none of it was saved. But the database's logs created by the vendor that manages the data, NGP VAN, shows that four accounts associated with the Sanders team took advantage of the Wednesday morning breach. Staffers conducted searches that would be especially advantageous to the campaign, including lists of its likeliest supporters in 10 early voting states, including Iowa and New Hampshire.

SNIP

After one Sanders account gained access to the Clinton data, the audits show, that user began sharing permissions with other Sanders users. The staffers who secured access to the Clinton data included national data director Josh Uretsky, who was fired on Thursday, and his deputy, Russell Drapkin. The two other usernames that viewed Clinton information were “talani" and "csmith_bernie," created by Uretsky's account after the breach began.

Though the Sanders campaign initially claimed that it had not saved Clinton data, the logs show that the Vermont senator’s team created at least 24 lists during the 40-minute breach, which started at 10:40 a.m., and saved those lists to their personal folders. The Sanders searches included New Hampshire lists related to older voters, "HFA Turnout 60-100" and "HFA Support 50-100," that were conducted and saved by Uretsky. Drapkin's account searched for and saved lists including "HFA Support <30" in Iowa and "HFA Turnout 30-70"' in New Hampshire.

Uretsky told CNN on Friday that he probed the Clinton data to get a sense of the full extent of the problem, but the breach was reported to NGP VAN by a third party, not by the Sanders campaign, a source familiar with the investigation said. "We knew there was a security breach in the data, and we were just trying to understand it and what was happening," he said. "To the best of my knowledge, nobody took anything that would have given the (Sanders) campaign any benefit."
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MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
4. Bernie has not hired the brightest bulbs in the chandelier, that much is obvious.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:58 PM
Dec 2015

Sanders needs to have his own presser before this thing escalates any more.

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
10. He probably felt--correctly-that video of him threatening to sue the DNC
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:01 PM
Dec 2015

after he fired a staffer who admits he downloaded information from the Clinton campaign would look pretty fucked up.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
13. Maybe neither of them should have threatened to sue.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:06 PM
Dec 2015

That threat is guaranteed to not bring about the desired results.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
12. Apropos of nothing, really...
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:05 PM
Dec 2015

but perhaps the Berniacs can leverage it for a new CT:



Uretsky has been involved in Democratic politics for several years, his LinkedIn profile shows.

He worked as a staffer on Patrick Murphy’s Congressional campaign in 2006. From 2007 to 2008 he was a “grassroots leader for Barack Obama’s 2008 campaign in Philadelphia,” serving as a co-chair of Philadelphia for Obama.

http://heavy.com/news/2015/12/josh-uretsky-bernie-sanders-campaign-national-data-director-fired-photos-bio-age-who-improperly-accessed-clinton-data-democratic-dnc-system-access/

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
7. Josh Uretsky admitted it 15 minutes ago on MSNBC
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:00 PM
Dec 2015

so the idea that they didn't download data is false.

I'm willing to leave open the possibility that the data wasn't downloaded for nefarious purposes, but the smart move would be to come clean now instead of the drip drip drip that's been happening since the Post broke this story. And you sure as FUCK don't put on a bellicose press conference like the one this morning.

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
16. Bellicose -- precisely. It's one thing for Bernie to get righteously angry
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:18 PM
Dec 2015

about the fate of the 99%.

But it's another for Weaver, the guy who blamed a "low level staffer" yesterday, and insisted that no data was taken, to act so righteously angry today. As if no one should even DARE question the behavior of anyone on the Sanders team because they would NEVER involve themselves in dirty tricks.

Except the guy they fired, and people working with him, apparently did just that. And the DNC has a right to question them about that.

So I think Weaver's anger had the opposite effect that he intended. I think he came across not as Bernie-like, but as someone who was deflecting because he had something to hide.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
8. "csmith_bernie"
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:00 PM
Dec 2015

Is a likely volunteer ID.

First name starts with "C" ... last name "smith" and then _bernie shows Bernie supporter.

We use the same naming system for Hillary volunteers for the most past.

Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
11. And yet people are freaking out that access has been removed
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:03 PM
Dec 2015

Man, considering it seems like half the folks here can't even figure out how to freakin' tweet, they're all experts on data security all of a sudden.

And the kinds of protocols you go through when things like this go down before anything else happens. You cut off access, trace, investigate, move forward.

Buncha whiny babies these days. Not very presidential at all.

"We did things wrong that we shouldn't have, but did, so now I'm going to sue you."

As much as I've liked Bernie over the years on Hartmann and his interviews - always a better counterbalance to McCain and his many appearances, this is just terrible stuff.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
14. But..but...lets talk about the economy.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:07 PM
Dec 2015

Richard Nixon, "I am not a crook, Rosemary Woods did it."
No debate till this is resolved. Turn over the data bernie.

Can't win on his own merits so this is how sleazy his campaign gets.
Bernie, your underbelly is showing, and its not a pretty sight.
Yuk.

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