2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf Democrats lose, who do you want in 2020?
Who's going to lead the Democratic Party in 2020 if Clinton or Sanders or O Malley loses? Warren? Kaine? Dean? O Malley? Nina Turner?
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,628 posts)NYCButterfinger
(755 posts)Kaine is a Southerner. Democrats need to win the South. Warren can't win Florida or North Carolina.
randys1
(16,286 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Been there, done that.
Not sure at this point.
NYCButterfinger
(755 posts)The 2020s could be his decade.
PatrickforO
(14,591 posts)That hasn't happened yet. My feeling is there's a profound anger on the part of all Americans against the status quo.
The right wing racists are backing Rump and they make up about 20% of the voters. Note that they ALWAYS vote so we've got to show up too.
Then there's the rest of us. Bernie is actually winning, but this is being systematically suppressed by the corporate owned media, pollsters and pundits, because the oligarchs are busy making their final move to take over governance of the nation states through TPP (read it if you don't believe me), and they don't even want Bernie NEAR the general election presidential ballot.
So we have meme after meme:
1. Bernie has a problem with blacks
2. Bernie has a problem with Hispanics
3. Bernie's supporters are old white male liberals who drive Volvos and are themselves racist
4. Bernie has a problem with women
5. Bernie can sell tee shirts and mugs and fill arenas but he can't win the general election
And now, dum-da-da-dum! the piece de resistance....
Several staffers on the Sanders campaign viewed and possibly downloaded Clinton data from the DNC vendor. What they AREN'T telling you is that the Sanders campaign found out about this breach and lost data a couple months ago, but the DNC did NOTHING and the leak was not reported. So, this time around, even though the vendor is the one guilty of malfeasance, the DNC is making a really clumsy attempt to ratfuck the Sanders campaign by reporting this. As a result, I have donated more money to Sanders, signed a MoveOn petition and a DFA petition calling out the DNC and for DWS resignation, and called the DNC donation line and left the same message.
I don't know who you are for, but if you support Sanders then now is the time to step up and get militant. Let's ENGAGE!!!!!!!!