Sanders operatives mess up. Sanders partisans can't take the heat.

[LuvLoogie]

Nostrils flair at DWS. "The Devil made them do it!"

Authenticity and Genuine Truth, bare-bottomed, weep.

Star Wars Weekend and Hillary Clinton join together to Dirty-Trick Sanders campaign into ethics gaffe.

Sanders unforced error: Authentic Contender to Authentic Pretender.



I don't get how it's DWS and HRC's fault that the Sanders campaign screwed up? And now The Revolution is up in arms over "dirty tricks" and their campaign being "held hostage!" Can you imagine if it was 5 Clinton operatives, searching downloading and saving Sanders' voter data and claim, "We just wanted it as proof there was a breach. We weren't going to do anything with it. We are the genuine bringers of truth, after all."

[riversedge]

1. This is the data which Sanders camp got -downloaded-from the Clinton camp

....

.....What was accessed

Two senior Democrats familiar with the program and the investigation told CNN that the Sanders campaign accessed turnout projections for Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary, a key piece of strategy the Clinton campaign has been working on with modeling and analytics.

The Sanders team, which consisted of four people, ran multiple searches in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina and about 10 March states, including Florida and Colorado. In Iowa and New Hampshire, the Clinton campaign has ranked voters on a scale of 1-100 for turnout, enthusiasm and support, the senior Democrats said. The Sanders campaign ran two searches: "Show me all the Clinton people rated higher than 60" and "Show me all the people rated less than 30." This would be a key way of knowing who Sanders should target in the final weeks before voting: Ignore those above 60, while focus on those below 30, because they are looking for a Clinton alternative and might be open to Sanders.

The investigation into what information was lifted should only take a few days as there are audit logs and trails of the activity, which took place beginning around 10:40 a.m. and lasting for about 40 minutes, the senior Democrats said.

They added that the Clinton campaign views this as a big deal but will not say so publicly because it will fan the flames of liberal groups trying to fight with the DNC.

In a statement released Friday afternoon, the Clinton campaign called for the Sanders campaign and the DNC to "work expeditiously to ensure that our data is not in the Sanders campaign's account and that the Sanders campaign only have access to their own data."................


http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/18/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-dnc-suspension/index.html

[SunSeeker]

6. That really spells out the intentional nature and the advantage the Sanders camp tried to gain. nt

[riversedge]

23. Yes, it does.

[daleanime]

2. And Hillary partisans....

continue to write fiction.

[Jester Messiah]

3. What a novel take on matters.

But here in the real world, this is what's what.

http://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000151-b72f-d1ae-add5-f76f14db0001

[djean111]

4. As a Bernie supporter, I have to say that none of this affects my support and vote for Bernie.

And - that is really all that is important here - votes and support.
Did you think that Bernie's supporters were going to switch to Hillary over this? That this is more important than war, the TPP, Wall Street, and other issues where Hillary and Bernie differ? Not a chance. In fact, that would be ridiculous.

[LuvLoogie]

9. I am not trying to change your mind and who you support. Have at it.

Most Hail Mary plays end in interceptions.

[iandhr]

13. I am a HRC supporter who like's Bernie as well.

I think what people are looking from Sanders supporters is an acknowledgement that the campaign screwed up.

[djean111]

15. No supporters owe other supporters anything.

That's actually pointless.

[iandhr]

16. Facts are pointless

Got it.

[djean111]

17. Here's a fact - Hillary supporters brag at another website about alerting on Bernie's supporters

until they can get them banned. You think I really care what Hillary's supporters think?

And we do not know all the facts about any of this. And again - I don't care what happened, I will still be supporting Bernie.

[iandhr]

19. Many DU Bernie supporters would turn on him in two seconds if he won.

Bernie has always been a pragmatist.


He would compromise to get stuff done and you all would call him a sellout.

Others however seem to have a grasp on reality. They seem to be able to support their candidate, admit in this instance the campaign screwed up, and acknowledge that firing the person who downloaded Clintons data was the right decision.

[djean111]

22. How on earth is that relevant to anything at all? Even remotely? Non-sequiter.

And - you have no idea what would happen, plus - so what? Why is that important?
So confusing, down thread, Bernie's supporters are called cult-ish, and you are saying that Bernie's supporters would not be a blindly following cult. Get stories and slams straight, is my advice.
I think any more "conversation" is pointless. 'bye.

[notadmblnd]

5. If you don't understand something

Perhaps you should refrain from posting until you do?

There's no way of telling how many of Clinton's staffers were able to or whether they accessed Sander's files because Sander's people have been locked out of the system, but the donut is round here.

[SunSeeker]

7. K & R

[stonecutter357]

8. K&R!

[alcibiades_mystery]

10. I'm terrified of any supporters of a political candidate who are fanatical

We're damn close today.

It's beyond belief.

Sad, really. I like Bernie, but I will now celebrate when he loses this. His people are damn dangerous.

[Blue_Adept]

12. It's taken on the conservative cultish levels that we often view across the aisle

[alcibiades_mystery]

14. No question

It's remarkable. In people I know and trust on these boards. Like I said, today is a very sad spectacle.

[Andy823]

18. What I have always wondered

I if Bernie won the WH, how long would it be before the same group that hated Obama, the party as a whole, and now Clinton, would turn on Bernie if he had to say "compromise" on something they didn't like?

I honestly think there are trouble makers here who post shit only to stir things up, and cause divisions. Look at all the hit and run post lately from low count posters, and some old time shit stirrers. I think some here don't want to see a democrat in the WH.

[iandhr]

20. Took the words out of my mouth

[Vincardog]

11. If that is your take on reality welcome to it. It literally has nothing to do with what happened.

[HerbChestnut]

21. Nice opinion. Next.