2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe only way Obama can compete with all the negative ads
that will be coming out is to swoop all the negative ads out with an ad.
Something like this: Why are these big donors such as Adelson willing on spending 100 Million Dollars on negative ads towards Obama. Why??
Because Sheldon Adelson Stands To Get $2 Billion Tax Cut If Mitt Romney Is Elected.
Another similar ad using the Koch Brothers.
I don't know any other way to get to uniformed voters. If they see these negative ads over and over again, they will believe them unless we can counter them to where the uninformed voters just tune those crazy ads out all together.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/sheldon-adelson-2-billion-tax-cut-mitt-romney_n_1873683.html
freshwest
(53,661 posts)EdwardKingSolomon
(60 posts)Truth and facts > Negative ads and lies in a General Election
brooklynite
(94,591 posts)...because the people who will still be undecided at that point have no idea who Sheldon Adelson or the Koch Brothers are. It's like Conservatives trying to scare people with the name "Saul Alinsky".
The only name that should be metioned in any advertising is "Mitt Romney".
mary195149
(379 posts)A 10 second background on Adelson is all people need to know and then asking "what's in it for him?"
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Not even a 10-second background of Adelman. Just consistently (any maybe even literally) portray Romney as a puppet or marionette of big corporate interests.
A clever ad would feature a "muppet" Mitt Romney saying everything the big money wants him to say.
mary195149
(379 posts)Great description. It falls into everything he is, being manipulated by his donors behind the scenes.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Always flubbing their lines. It's not from the heart, like Clinton or Obama who don't need a script. When one has reasoned something out by oneself, it's inside all the time and doesn't need repetition.
redwitch
(14,944 posts)A Mittster muppet would be delightful!
Denver Dave
(167 posts)There is an other way - get the Republican spoiler in the debates
I think it is important for us not to let the private debate commission dictate who we are allowed to hear and who we are not. However, if I was to buy into the spoiler idea, then Gary Johnson, Libertarian, presidential candidate, is twice as likely to be a spoiler for Romney than Jill Stein to be a spoiler for Obama.
As you know the Republicans were not all that thrilled about Romney and a September 7-9, 2012 CNN poll of likely voters gives twice as many voters interested in Johnson than Stein.
See question 4 in the PDF:
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/09/10/rel10a.pdf
.... So I guess, if you are for President Obama and you give weight to the spoiler argument, you should consider working to get Gary Johnson, Libertarian into the debates to take votes away for Romney - votes that would be very unlikely to go to Obama.
http://OpenUpTheDebates.org
If, Gary Johnson is in the debate, it might change how Governor Romney answers some questions, otherwise, both candidates, now that they have their party's nomination, will run to the middle, sometimes abandoning why some of us liked them in the first place.
Other candidates are important to the debates, not because they might win, but because they hold the leaders accountable to earlier positions they have taken.
I hope will help, by signing the petition and telling your friends.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,414 posts)People are going to watch the ads and then watch Obama on the debates and/or on the campaign trail and see two completely different "people". The right has spent a LOT of time and money over the past 4 years building up this (as Bill Maher called him) "Barack X" character (to the extent that Clint Eastwood decided to have a "conversation" with him at the RNC ) but most people when they see Obama speak on TV, the campaign trail, just don't buy into the right's characterization of Obama. They don't see "Barack X", they just see Barack Obama.
mary195149
(379 posts)way too much credit. These people will probably not watch the debates,they will be influenced by the commercials.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,414 posts)So, we're doomed????
mary195149
(379 posts)but,these ads do work. And if you keep hearing the same thing over and over again, it's a proven fact, many people do start believing it. That's why I believe you need to counter these ads.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,414 posts)and I'm sure Obama is going to run some ads but he's not going to be able to combat the absolute tsunami of ads that Koch Brothers' money can buy. Obama has been smeared relentlessly for the past 4 years by every source imaginable and the Republicans have yet to make him as the second-most hated Democrat after Jimmy Carter and he has been leading the entire race. Are two months of ads going to do what 4 years has (apparently) failed to do?