2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDNC and the Hillary campaign share headquarters. Huh.
Before I could ask what time the event started, I was told I needed to talk to Tim Hogan, the Nevada communications director for Clinton's campaign. Back in my rental car, I emailed Hogan, explaining that I wanted to talk to registered voters and Nevada caucus goers. He replied with an invitation to the office opening, and included a clip about Clinton's recent endorsement from Carson City Democratic Party Chair Marty McGarry, whose office is also in the party headquarters at 502 E John Street. At the time, neither Sanders nor former Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley had a field office in the city; the Sanders campaign opened one this week, a couple of blocks away from the space Clinton's team shares with McGarry and the Democratic Party.
At the time, it struck me as curious that the local Democratic Partyparticularly one in a key early voting statewould allow a primary candidate to run a campaign from their office, sharing resources and space in a place where caucus voters might come with the expectation of balanced information on all of the party's candidates.
http://www.vice.com/read/the-democratic-party-hillary-clinton-bias-goes-way-beyond-data
brooklynite
(94,679 posts)not the DNC
But I guess, when you're looking for a conspiracy theory, the details don't matter.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)of them. It is the purpose of the DNC to support local Dem offices.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)PatrickforO
(14,586 posts)determined what the meaning of 'is' actually is...
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)I think it's what the meaning of the word "is" was.
Historic NY
(37,452 posts)and local Democratic Parties. Its not uncommon to share space or provide space in a campaign HQTS. for the local party. Apparently you forgot it about Democrats for Democrats.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)candidate. Never. Not once. The resources of the office were available to all candidates. O'Malley is running as a candidate. Bernie is running as a candidate.
Le Taz Hot has documented her trials and tribulations of getting her local Dem office to carry Bernie campaign material. They flat out won't do it.
Historic NY
(37,452 posts)you might find out the Clinton Campaign is paying the bills & they are giving them space....not every Local Party has funds...sometimes its in-kind services support.
Obama campaign shared space in 08 and 12 with many small local committees including some Congressional campaigns..around the country.
Well maybe Bernie ought to open some more local offices. Who was funding that local office??
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LOL - guy writes report to claim bias..........the place was the Obama Campaign's office too.
George II
(67,782 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)floriduck
(2,262 posts)to get posters banned. This example is definitely more egregious than your thought.
George II
(67,782 posts)mentalslavery
(463 posts)That is a picture of the current decorations on the door, not a picture from when obama was running in his first primary against clinton in 08. The addition of the picture makes it seem as if you have evidence of obama support at this office from a comparable point in the his first campaign where he beat clinton...but you don't.
Naturally, this office has obama stuff on it today...but how does that equate.
George II
(67,782 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Volunteer at your local office. Communicate with your local operatives.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)No they can't share the data the candidate has their own data .
I rented space from local hq when I ran for office. The local party can't endorse a candidate but no law against renting office space it helps the local party to get income as well .
The candidate signes a lease contract only not that local party will endorse or work for the candidate
George II
(67,782 posts)Give us a for instance of one of the "many" you refer to, please.
Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)wyldwolf
(43,868 posts)Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)Sometimes they are not
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)And they are REALLY looking.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)Repeated posts with cooked up accusations like this leads one to have to question the motivation (and integrity) of said poster.
complain jane
(4,302 posts)as soon as I started reading the article.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)That is too fucking funny, oh god, my side hurts.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Yet, Clintonians will feign great umbrage if anyone dare suggest that "The DNC is in the tank for Hillary".
Howls of faux outrage are certain to ensue from Hillary fans if anyone dare utter such a thing on DU.
It is beyond ridiculous, as we are not supposed to notice or believe out 'lying eyes' when we point out the
painfully obvious fact that the DNC and Hillary are fused at the hip, in a corrupt incestuous power grab.
senz
(11,945 posts)I saw the title of the article, " Is the Democratic Party Rigging the Election for Hillary Clinton?" and immediately thought of all the times certain cheeky, arrogant individuals have called us "conspiracy theorists" for wondering what the hell is going on.
merrily
(45,251 posts)1. Does not alter reality
2. Does not even mean that you believe your own words.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Warren Stupidity
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They're an incestuous lot.
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AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)this wouldn't be an problem
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)Your remark seems to indicate preknowledge. I just wonder how you believe them to have it.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Why are you not demanding that they go to cops to prosecute this cybercrime.
senz
(11,945 posts)Somebody's got something to hide.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)Hillary took Obama's records in '08.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Nothing is too ridiculous to get posted here.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Of course not.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)It's time to change that and sen Sanders is the only candidate working for the People.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)[font color="white"]Why are you on Democratic Underground if you're not a democrat?[/font]
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)What's that saying about Bedfellows....
Politics makes strange bedfellows....Yep and all that jazz.....
AzDar
(14,023 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)I'm appalled!
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)George II
(67,782 posts).....in the last Presidential election. I wouldn't obsess over it. Probably not many offices available for rent in Carson City, right?
catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)no matter how much corruption is injected into their campaign.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)oasis
(49,398 posts)to eliminate any question of impropriety.
George II
(67,782 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Or as if the problem is confined to sharing space in one location.
George II
(67,782 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)...his/her subject line and make it accurate?
merrily
(45,251 posts)I'm not your personal assistant.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....or YOUR post.
The Carson City Democratic Party is a far cry from the Democratic National Committee.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)he get's little traction. As a Bernie supporter, I think O'Malley should get a lot more attention.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)And, yes, I am bothered by this. I also know the difference in DNC and the state parties it gives money to.
George II
(67,782 posts)mentalslavery
(463 posts)which is the point right....its a brand of the larger organization generally recognized as carrying out the local function of the national organization....Of course...the most accurate headline would be A local branch of the DNC is.... so I do acknowledge that the post is drawing a lot of attention over this key difference. But....we all know the DNC is propping up clinton and her and wasserman are tight so......
Recursion
(56,582 posts)That's weird.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)So, no, the Democratic Party office I've volunteered in doesn't really get much money from the DNC. And in fact they tried to railroad our caucus in '04 after we went for Sharpton.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)l. Serve as a representative of the NSDP on the Democratic National Committee (DNC)
http://nvdems.3cdn.net/7646ae3602954e1105_26m6b5dl6.pdf
Sourced from here;
http://www.nvdems.com/pages/about-us
George II
(67,782 posts)....local Council campaigns, not to mention five elections in which I was on the ballot. I'd say I've walked into many local Dem offices.
We've never received a penny, nor did we expect a penny, from the DNC.
NowSam
(1,252 posts)that makes me distrust this process.
Bernie is right. the game is rigged.
TheFarS1de
(1,017 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)That isn't a secret. Working together toward something bigger than themselves. It's a concept most democrats are proud of.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Oh geez.
treestar
(82,383 posts)What a waste of time it is to complain how unfair it all is. Voters make up their minds they are supporting Hillary because they support Hillary, not because the DNC made them do it.
Faux pas
(14,687 posts)emsimon33
(3,128 posts)It makes me dislike Hillary even more...which I thought was impossible!
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Anyone who supports Clinton is supporting an unethical organization, the DNC.
rosesaylavee
(12,126 posts)onecaliberal
(32,882 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)zalinda
(5,621 posts)doesn't it seem awfully hinky to any one that only ONE candidate is represented at a dem party office? Isn't the dem party, whether local or national supposed to be neutral until the primaries are over?
Z
Thanks. I think that is the point.
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)dragging into the slim one day at a time.
Historic NY
(37,452 posts)Upon arriving, I met three smartly dressed men getting ready for an event they said was an opening party for the Clinton campaign's local field office. Registering my curiosity, one of them pointed to the back, and explained that the Clinton campaign was renting an office in the party headquarters.
With its walls papered with Hillary Clinton signs, and the seats carefully arranged for the Hillary for America ribbon-cutting, it was hard to tell where the Democratic Party's office ended and the Clinton office began. There were a few signs referencing Obama and the Affordable Care Act, but as far as I could tell, there weren't any that mentioned the two other Democrats running for president. And sure enough, both the Carson City Democratic Party and Hillary for America's Carson City field office list 502 E. John Street,
In Nevadas state capital, the Clinton campaign rented space from the Carson City Democrats. They have a back room in the local party organizations office suite. At the time Clintons Carson City office opened in early December, neither the Sanders nor the Martin OMalley presidential campaigns had offices in the city.
Our office in Carson City had extra space beyond what our local party organization needs, and the Clinton campaign inquired about renting this extra space, Marty McGarry, chairwoman of the Carson City Democrats, told RT. Their presence helps us pay expenses for our all-volunteer office that does not receive any money from the state party.
The Sanders campaign, which runs nine offices in Nevada, including one in Carson City that opened in mid-December, was not offered space in any local Democratic Party offices, nor did they inquire about such vacancies.
https://www.rt.com/usa/327290-hillary-bernie-office-conspiracy/ (all you DU'ers are quoted all over this one)
You would think it was for free or something............meawhile Hillary has been fulfilling her commitment to raise money for various Democratic Party Hqts.
In my neck of the wood Democrats help Democrats, someone suggested and the campaign rented it. PS I'm sure the open house wouldn't fit in the back room....LOL. There is more but I decided its just not worth expending the effort................
brooklynite
(94,679 posts)Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Alfresco
(1,698 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)I always love your choice of gifs.