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babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 05:59 PM Sep 2012

Joe Conason: ‘He Kept Us Safe’: Bush Ignored Repeated Warnings Of Terrorist Attack

http://www.nationalmemo.com/he-kept-us-safe-bush-ignored-repeated-warnings-of-terrorist-attack/

‘He Kept Us Safe’: Bush Ignored Repeated Warnings Of Terrorist Attack
September 11th, 2012 12:52 am Joe Conason

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New documents uncovered by investigative journalist Kurt Eichenwald show that despite repeated, urgent warnings from intelligence officials about an impending Al Qaeda attack, Bush did nothing because his neoconservative advisers told him that the threats were merely a “ruse” and a distraction.

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But according to Eichenwald, he has seen still-classified documents that place the August 6 PDB in a new context – namely, the briefing papers preceding that date, which remain locked away:

While those documents are still not public, I have read excerpts from many of them, along with other recently declassified records, and come to an inescapable conclusion: the administration’s reaction to what Mr. Bush was told in the weeks before that infamous briefing reflected significantly more negligence than has been disclosed. In other words, the Aug. 6 document, for all of the controversy it provoked, is not nearly as shocking as the briefs that came before it.


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The warnings continued and multiplied into July 2001, with counter-terrorism officials becoming increasingly alarmed – or as Eichenwald puts it, “apoplectic.” Still, Bush, Cheney, Rice and their coterie failed to act.

Familiar with Eichenwald’s career, I’m confident that he is reporting what he has seen with complete accuracy and due caution. A two-time winner of the George Polk Award and a Pulitzer finalist, he concludes carefully that we will never know whether a more alert administration could have mobilized to prevent 9/11. What we know for certain –that they didn’t bother – is an eternal indictment.

But Eichenwald’s report has relevance that is more than historical. Advising Mitt Romney, foreign policy neophyte, are the same neoconservatives whose arrogance and incompetence steered Bush away from Al Qaeda and toward the quagmire in Iraq. Returning them to power would be exceptionally dangerous to the security of the United States and the world.
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Joe Conason: ‘He Kept Us Safe’: Bush Ignored Repeated Warnings Of Terrorist Attack (Original Post) babylonsister Sep 2012 OP
Sorry, but this is not fair, nor the day for the discussion. Swamp Lover Sep 2012 #1
you need to read up on this before dismissing it. The CIA BEGGED the WH to do something! n/t progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #3
What really isn't fair is how the r/w so often repeats the lie, 'he kept us safe', when babylonsister Sep 2012 #5
Just another SoFlaJet Sep 2012 #8
"You Republicans" Swamp Lover Sep 2012 #9
I'm a Republican? Swamp Lover Sep 2012 #14
The argument is that the intelligence was there and Bush did NOTHING! babylonsister Sep 2012 #15
Is that you Condi? Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2012 #16
If Kurt Eichenwald say it, you can take it to the bank tularetom Sep 2012 #2
They keep saying that, but it doesn't make it true. Arkansas Granny Sep 2012 #4
One of the rules of propaganda: If you tell a lie, make it a BIG one! Th1onein Sep 2012 #7
Thank you so much for posting this! Th1onein Sep 2012 #6
You're welcome, and babylonsister Sep 2012 #10
I'm here everyday. I come here for my morning news. But I don't post much sometimes. Th1onein Sep 2012 #11
Thanks so much! babylonsister Sep 2012 #13
Remember the fact that Repugs were screaming about Clinton not protecting zbdent Sep 2012 #12
fyi, Eichenwald coming up on Rachel! nt babylonsister Sep 2012 #17
 

Swamp Lover

(431 posts)
1. Sorry, but this is not fair, nor the day for the discussion.
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:11 PM
Sep 2012

Everyday the Whitehouse recieves Intelligence Reports that point to serious dangers. This time it happened. Nineteen men took over four planes. This was a situation that no one could have imagined or planned against. We take far more precautions now than we ever did back then, so it is hard to see that past through todays precautions.

There is no good that comes from this discussion today.

babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
5. What really isn't fair is how the r/w so often repeats the lie, 'he kept us safe', when
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:15 PM
Sep 2012

this is proof he did no such thing. They were so full of themselves they disregarded important intelligence that might have thwarted this attack. And these reports were specific, not generic, so your dog doesn't hunt.

SoFlaJet

(7,767 posts)
8. Just another
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:25 PM
Sep 2012

Inconvenient truth for you republicans-and it SHOULD be noted, ESPECIALLY on this very day.

 

Swamp Lover

(431 posts)
14. I'm a Republican?
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 07:00 PM
Sep 2012

You use the same argument that was made agianst Clinton for not getting Bin Laden during his term. You use the same argument that was made against Clinton after the bombing of the Cole, and I'm a Republican?

If your argument is that Bush knew of the attack and intentionally let it happen, then you're a 9/11 Truther and worthy of scorn. If you are saying that the haze of intelligence reports that come into the Whitehouse everyday could interpretted in such a way that 19 individuals could have been head off before they hijacked four flights out of hundreds in the air at that time, then you are refusing to acknowledge that security had always been lax in the US (as anyone who had ever traveled overseaqs could tell you). We are far more careful today.

My argument with the Bush administration is with his reaction that included the Patriot Act, lies to involve us in Iraq while giving short shrift to the real culprits in Afghanistan, and criminal acts such as setting up Guantanamo and torturous rendition.

There is a lot to bash Bush over, but getting caught with his pants down is unfair as we in the US had ong been an easy target that had just not been realized.

babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
15. The argument is that the intelligence was there and Bush did NOTHING!
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:36 PM
Sep 2012

I'm kind of surprised that doesn't upset you more. A president with all this knowledge should be expected to do something; he didn't. Doesn't that piss you off at all?

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
2. If Kurt Eichenwald say it, you can take it to the bank
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:14 PM
Sep 2012

I've read his books on Prudential Securities and Enron and he was right on target on every aspect of these scandals.

I have the utmost confidence that he would not make these statements without being absolutely sure of the truth of what he was saying.

So, after all these years the question remains: Were they trying to provoke a confrontation to justify American intervention in the Middle East? Or were they simply incompetent?

Personally, I believe they were a little of both. Maybe a lot incompetent.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
7. One of the rules of propaganda: If you tell a lie, make it a BIG one!
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:24 PM
Sep 2012

They have the book memorized. I can tell.

Oh, and one other rule: Keep repeating the lie until people believe it.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
6. Thank you so much for posting this!
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:23 PM
Sep 2012

Great article. And the truth. I have a feeling much more of this stuff is going to come out in the days ahead.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
11. I'm here everyday. I come here for my morning news. But I don't post much sometimes.
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:41 PM
Sep 2012

It's always nice to see your name on a post, babylonsister. I know it's going to be good if you posted it. You're one of the reasons people like me CAN come here for their news!

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
12. Remember the fact that Repugs were screaming about Clinton not protecting
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:46 PM
Sep 2012

a Navy ship in a foreign port ... from a rubber raft.

And that was tied to Osama bin Laden.

George W. Bush pulled investigators to look into some rep's sex life ...

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