Hillary is lowering herself to Trumps tactics...

[berni_mccoy]

Calling that out is not defending Trump.

Calling out that it's a proven failed approach is not defending Trump.

Calling out b.s. from any candidate is not defending Trump.

Calling out the fact that Sanders polls better against Trump than Hillary is not defending Trump.

What is actually enabling Trump is a candidate who chooses to lower herself to his tactics.

And what also enables Trump is when her fans not only deny it, but approve it.

You want to win the general election with either candidate? Then don't support tactics that Trump uses.

[ViseGrip]

1. ^^^ T H I S ^^^

[farleftlib]

2. HRC lowered herself before Trump was even on the political map

Remember the sleaze of '08? Obama in a turban?

[JustAnotherGen]

3. I"m certain her campaign

Has noted your concern and will act accordingly.

[Punkingal]

4. I'm certain her campaign doesn't give a shit what we the people think.

[JustAnotherGen]

7. Especially since

You aren't a supporter, haven't volunteered time or effort, and haven't given financially to her campaign.

That would be like Sanders giving a fuck about me - or anything I think or want for the country - since I am an O'Malley supporter.

[Ino]

22. Funny thing is...

I was a big Hillary supporter. I used to get very angry when I'd hear "No more Bushes or Clintons in the White House," thinking that there were TWO Bushes but only ONE Clinton, so we're owed another Clinton.

Then I started paying attention to her votes in the Senate. And realized she was more Republican than Democratic, and did not have my interests at heart.

Nevertheless, she does seem to care about my vote... everyone's vote. "Everybody should love me!" she exclaimed. How could EVERYONE love her? By being a chameleon... changing her accent and stated positions as needed to fit in. But she will revert to the same corporate lizard she is underneath once I'm no longer needed. So I see how you would think a candidate only gives a fuck about you as long as she/he has your vote, time, effort & money.

Has a candidate's ACTIONS prior to a campaign been in line with your interests? Then I think he/she DOES care about the same things as you, whether or not you've declared support or sent him/her money. It's a part of who he/she IS, rather than a cynical pandering.

[JustAnotherGen]

25. Funny thing - I'm an O'Malley supporter

I paid attention to all of the long term, 15, 20, 30 year politicians in Washington D.C. - it's a shell game. They promised shit that never got done. they are promising the same bullshit. And they want me to trust them now? Nope - not gonna do it. That's fine for you - I can respect that - but I've had enough of this older generation pissing on my back then turning around and telling me it's raining. New blood, fresh blood, young blood.

[Ino]

27. From what I know of O'Malley...

he's an OK guy and I'd have no problem voting for him. I get what you're saying about career Washington politicians! I do think Sanders is different though... consistent, outspoken, honest, a man of the PEOPLE, voting his conscience (and as I would like my Congresscritter to vote) no matter what the trend is.

[JustAnotherGen]

28. I just don't see him as different

No disrespect to you. My perception of him is that he's no different - too long without results.

[Ino]

29. He's been a voice crying in a wilderness...

If you don't want to watch all, just skip to 2:10 in this video

8:30 in this one...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=903&v=a60pZr3Notc

I've been very impressed with O'Malley's record. I hope to see more of him!

[still_one]

5. Oh boy, another thread slaming Hillary for calling out Trump's racist rants against Muslims

Just another flame bait post, that contributes to nothing to the discussion. In fact it isn't even a discussion, it is an excuse for another Hillary bashing thread.

[JustAnotherGen]

26. You noticed that too

I can't get believe any true liberal or progressive would ever defend Trump. He's a pig from hell and if he stroked out tomorrow I wouldn't shed a tear.

[LettuceSea]

6. I dont get why she wants to play on a muddy field

She needs to be the candidate of optimism, the world leader who is above that crap.

[dinkytron]

23. There is nothing to gain in playing in Trump's sandbox.

I

[Renew Deal]

8. What Hillary said about Trump was TRUE.

I agree with it. She's correct. And those defending Trump on this website show their true nature.



Sanders is too weak to get elected president, partly because he can't speak the truth.

[still_one]

10. So when Bernie calls Trump a 'Pathological Liar', that isn't lowering himself to Trump's level

The hypocrisy that seems to prevail in some quarters is mind numbing

I wonder if some people even comprehend how inane they sound with their double standards.

[LettuceSea]

11. It is true, but is it effective beyond her/traditional Democratic base?

If she is supposed to be the most electable one, then she needs to take that into consideration.

[Renew Deal]

12. She has to defend herself.

She can't just let this stuff slide or she looks weak. We may not like it, but toughness is a big element of the presidential race.

[LettuceSea]

14. I get that

We have different interpretations of strong/weak I guess.

To me, strong is being above the fray, not responding to the childish crap from the carnival barker.

However, it does seem like this stuff is firing up her base. I just hope it's a net positive when we get outside the base.

[Renew Deal]

19. It's an interesting point

I know people get turned off when it gets too dirty.

[NCTraveler]

9. The unchallenged front runner on the dem side is using a proven failed approach?

These posts were frustrating for a bit. They have now launched into a non-stop comedy routine.

I'm truly not sure if you are supporting Trump or attacking Clinton at this point.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=936504

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251938809

[MrWendel]

13. K&R

This!

[gwheezie]

15. She should continue to go after trump

I like it. So should Bernie. I liked Bernie's response to the bathroom attack also. The alternative is to embrace him like Cruz is doing.
No candidate should let the opponent go unanswered.
Go get him.

[NuclearDem]

16. No, she's not.

If you can't see the difference between what the candidates are doing, then you're either blinded by irrational hatred or just not very bright.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. You're braver than me./nt

[Blue_Adept]

18. Hillary can do no right

Which is pretty much all I get from your many posts about her the last few weeks.

[berni_mccoy]

21. She *can* but she chooses not to... here are several reasons why I'm against her

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251758204

[LuvLoogie]

20. Hillary is no wall flower, Berni.

Too, bad.

[leftofcool]

24. Hillary calling out racism upsets you? Switch to decaf.