The Hillary people got over it in '08 and voted for Obama.

[KamaAina]

I fully expect they will do the same for Bernie.

[Scootaloo]

1. I dunno, they seem even more desperate and hateful than 2008

I mean I wasn't here, but I'll bet Skinner wouldn't have let people stick around if they used Stormfront to attack Obama back then.

[NCTraveler]

14. "I mean I wasn't here"

But let me drop a divisive message as if I were. lol. Comedy club stuff here.

You weren't here, drop something about Stormfront, yet look at what is recommended here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251687330

Do you see how transparent you are?

[Scootaloo]

20. I don't see my name on that rec list

But I do see Stormfront posted here. And a Hitler apologist site here. And white supremacist right-wing sites here. And barenaked antisemitism here. I see a spirited defense of Louis Farrakhan in this subthread.

All from clinton supporters. all in an effort to smear bernie sanders - a jewish senator running for president.

Now why is that d'ya suppose?

[NCTraveler]

21. Nice deceptive move. Well done. lol.

Just used the same tactic since you respect it.

[Scootaloo]

23. You mean you lied about me, to try to deflect from actual bigotry coming from your friends?

All of them still posting happily, despite the TOS:

No bigoted hate speech.
Do not post bigotry based on someone's race or ethnic origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, religion or lack thereof, disability, or other comparable personal characteristic. To be clear: This includes any post which states opposition to full equal rights for gays and lesbians; it also includes any post asserting disloyalty by Jewish Americans, claiming nefarious influence by Jews/Zionists/Israel, advocating the destruction of the state of Israel, or arguing that Holocaust deniers are just misunderstood. In determining what constitutes bigotry, please be aware that we cannot know what is in anyone's heart, and we will give members the benefit of the doubt, when — and only when — such doubt exists.

[NCTraveler]

24. lol. If that is your thing.

Just have to bounce with it Scoot.

[Scootaloo]

25. I'm glad you think blatant bigotry is funny.

[NCTraveler]

26. Ya, that's what I did. lol.

That's not what I'm laughing at but you already know it.

Merry Christmas Scoot.

[Scootaloo]

28. That's what you're doing

Here's a summary.

me: "Clinton supporters seem even more hateful than 2008, they've even used Stormfront to attack Sanders!"
you: "Nuh uh! lol!"
me: "here's links to prove it."
You: "lol"
me; "you think it's funny?"
you; "lol"

Y'know, I can call out my compatriots when they fuck up and say stupid shit. You, at the very least, seem incapable of that much.

It's Yule, but thanks.

[NCTraveler]

30. .

[artislife]

64. It was well done. Unlike yours. nt

[NCTraveler]

78. Thank you for the deep analysis.

Happy Holidays to you.

[George II]

66. You have a very vivid imagination. Yes, those posts exist(ed), but none of them....

....say what you claim they say.

For example, the reference to Farrakhan was introduced by a Sanders supporter, not a Clinton supporter. And just where is he now?

And another, which you claim used a reference from "Hitler apologist" site, but you completely missed the point of why he linked to that site, even though HE EXPLAINED IT! He explained that he believes none of it, but is just pointing out what Sanders should expect to see from the right wing (and growing up in Brooklyn, like I did during that same era, probably HAS seen/heard, as I saw/heard stuff like that!)"

"I am not writing this to smear Bernie - I believe non of it - I am just pointing out the political sewage which will be directed at Sanders if he wins the nomination."


How you interpret that to being "anti-Semitic" is beyond me.

[Scootaloo]

80. They all say what I say they say. it's right there in the text

1) Yup, it was brought up that Marissa jenae Jonson is a big fan of Farrakhan (and she is, at least to judge from her Facebook page.) The response to this reality. "LOL Y CONSERVATIVE ALL HAET FARRAKHAN?!" - As if there is no liberal criticism of a gross antisemite who calls for race war.

2) Maybe Hillary supporters will want to wait for the right to actually use Hitler-defending sources to attack sanders, and then talk about that, rather than jumping right to using hitler-defending sources to attack sadners, and claiming it's what the right would do.

3) The same effort to fig leaf is made wit hthe gateway pundit / progressives today links, "lol I was just messin with you" - that don't work, sorry.

4) The link to stormfront is, well, a link to stormfront. The poster perused, browsed, and found a thread they wanted to use to smear Bernie with. The hilarious thing is that their claim - that stromfront has lots of Sanders fans - is grotesquely false.

5) Dunno how you're gonna play the whole "what race of people calls black people schwartz" thing. I'd love to see it.

The point is, these are all coming from Hillary supporters. These are all being defended by Hillary supporters, as you are demonstrating. And even though all are blatant ToS violations, their posters persist in their presence on DU.

I find it fascinating that not only is antisemitism okay with Clinton supporters - and it clearly is, judging from some of the shit your fellows at clinton Cave have posted - but that our own admin are willing ot give it a pass too.

[George II]

81. Unfortunately you've made a practice of claiming that others said what you WANTED them to say.

[Scootaloo]

84. Read the links.

Just because you're okay with what's being said doesn't change what is being said.

[George II]

85. I read the links, but contrary to you once AGAIN saying what OTHERS think, I'm not okay....

....with what they said.

Again, unfortunately, you miss the point of several of those posts, which is completely opposite from what you would like them to be saying.

Too bad you make up the rules and meanings as you go along.

Have a pleasant evening.

[Scootaloo]

86. My evening's just fine, thanks

[George II]

50. You've used this "Stormfront" attack before, and have been asked where it was. You have....

....avoided that question more than once.

Where did a Clinton supporter use "Stormfront" to attack anyone?

[Scootaloo]

53. I linked it, George II

Post #20. Plus some.

[ViseGrip]

2. Obama did not use the tactics that Hillary used in 08 or today. Worry about general voters, not us.

Again, this history is not forgotten and she just threw a slime bucket and called on the media world to watch. The blowback is severe, and she deserved it, along with DWS.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251939938
in case you missed this.

looking for





News & Politics

In Iowa, New Hampshire and now Nevada, the Clinton campaign has sought to suppress the vote of her rivals' supporters.

By Steven Rosenfeld / AlterNet

January 14, 2008

The headlines say the latest schism among the top Democratic presidential candidates is over gender and race. But on the ground in the presidential season's opening states, there is a darker narrative: that Hillary Clinton will not just fight hard, but fight dirty, to win. And her tactic of choice is attempting to suppress the votes of her rival's supporters.

The latest example is from Nevada, where the Nevada State Education Association is widely seen as filing a suit on Clinton's behalf to stop Las Vegas' most powerful union, Culinary Workers Local 226, from caucusing inside downtown casinos after the union endorsed Barack Obama. The tactic foments a split along racial and class lines in arguably the strongest union city in America.

"It's horrible," said one longtime Nevada activist, who didn't want his name used. "It will cause fights and damage that will last for years."

But the Clinton campaign has made similar moves in New Hampshire and Iowa.

In the first primary state, her supporters -- backed by New Hampshire Democratic Party officials -- pressured poll workers to remove observers stationed by the Obama campaign. These volunteers had intended to track voters as part of their get-out-the-vote effort. That tactic came after the Clinton campaign sent a mailing targeting women that said Obama would not "stand up and protect" a women's right to choose because he had voted "present" -- but not yes -- on a few abortion-related bills in the Illinois legislature.

"I've kept most mailers I got from every presidential candidate this year, and that mailer was the absolute worst," wrote New Hampshire blogger Peter Glenshaw. "Never mind that Obama has a 100 percent approval rating from Planned Parenthood in Illinois. Never mind that Planned Parenthood asked him to vote 'present' on those bills."

And in Iowa, the Clinton campaign -- with the help of the state's largest newspaper, the Des Moines Register, which endorsed her -- was discouraging students from returning from winter break to vote, even though their right to do so was legal, said Rick Hasen, who writes a respected election law blog. "Indeed such voting could help to compensate for the otherwise anti-democratic nature of Iowa's role in the presidential election process," he said.

As the nomination process has unfolded and Clinton has encountered resistance in every state so far -- including Obama's Friday endorsement by the 60,000-member Las Vegas Culinary Workers Union -- her campaign's increasingly critical rhetoric has been accompanied by voter suppression tactics aimed at her rival's core voters.

While Clinton campaign surrogates have verbally accused Obama of many things, from "fairy tale" answers on Iraq to being a drug user while they served the country more nobly, intentionally suppressing voters -- especially under-represented, low-income minority union members -- stands out in 2008's Democratic presidential campaign.

After all, the Democratic National Committee moved Nevada's caucuses to the top of the primary lineup so minority voices could be heard -- and no organization is more aligned with those voters in Nevada than the Culinary Union, whose training materials for its members are printed in four languages. In contrast, the state teachers, whose suit seeks to stop those workers from caucusing in nine "at-large" precincts in big downtown casinos, have a statewide base because its members work throughout Nevada.

The NSEA suit claims the at-large casino caucuses are not fair to the state's other voters because they will likely be overrun with voters, thereby skewing the proportional representation of Clark County delegates to the state party convention.

Neither NSEA officials nor their Las Vegas lawyers returned calls on Monday. However their suit states that "by packing as much as 10 percent or more delegates into the county convention, the at-large precinct caucus system (created for the casinos) substantially diminishes the voting power of delegates from other county precinct caucuses."

In other words, a strong turnout from the tens of thousands of Culinary Workers Union members in Las Vegas, where 70 percent of Nevada voters live, could swing the state's early foray into presidential politics. In 2000, fewer than 1,000 people participated in Nevada's caucuses. In 2004, that number was about 9,000. This year, estimates are in the tens of thousands.

Nevada political insiders say the NSEA lawsuit is designed to suppress Obama's voters.

"That's the common narrative at this point," said Pilar Weiss, the Culinary Workers Union's political director, when asked if there was any other way to interpret the suit. "A caucus system is all proportional representation. It's not unfair in any way. They (the state Democratic Party) made an accommodation for Clark County."

Another Nevada activist who has worked for years in the state was even blunter.

"This (caucus) plan was created by some of the same people who are plaintiffs in the suit against it," he said. "It's not that they didn't like the plan when Clinton was ahead."

Steven Rosenfeld is a senior fellow at Alternet.org and co-author of What Happened in Ohio: A Documentary Record of Theft and Fraud in the 2004 Election, with Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman (The New Press, 2006).

http://www.alternet.org/story/73782/hillary_clinton's_dirty_campaign_tactics

[draa]

56. +1. I like your style.

Love your name by the way. ViseGrip brings me back to my mechanic days. Or decades if you will.

[whereisjustice]

60. This is how Hillary and her minions will run the White House, it will be nasty - she is neo-con

which means she has no problem with excessive force because she will tell you that her motives are pure.

[JonLeibowitz]

3. Unrec. Unnecessarily divisive.

Can we please stick to issues and records? Much more productive, and Bernie easily wins there.

[Faux pas]

4. Oh Yeah!

[Uncle Joe]

5. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, KamaAina.

[randys1]

6. But are we saying the 08 Hillary PUMA are now supporting Bernie?

So hard to keep up



This would be simple if people would do what I do

Support the party no matter who is running, not because you give a shit about the party, I sure dont, but because you fear the death and destruction of the other assholes.

[BlueCaliDem]

33. What makes you think they support the Party to begin with?

Some even believe we should let Republicans win to "teach those (add any negative adjective against Democrats here) Dems a lesson". Of course, if they had a good longterm memory, they'd know we tried that in 2000 (got Roberts and Scalito) and 2010 (got Teabaggers to take the House until 2020). How'd that work out? Not so good.

[floriduck]

43. Don't you mean Alito?

Scalia's been around since Reagan. But I admire the name combo.

[BlueCaliDem]

44. lol. Yes. Alito, but he was nicknamed "Scalito" because he's just as bad as Scalia.

That's why I used it.

[draa]

67. You might want to rethink that Roberts/Scalito argument.

While I agree in principle with what you said, having Roberts on the court has been somewhat of a blessing. He sucks but we likely wouldn't have won Marriage Equality, wouldn't have the ACA, nor the Fair Housing Act without him. Face it, GWB was going to be President because he cheated. At least we got some protection and progression from the appointment of Roberts.

That's not to say the court isn't conservative, it damn well is, but just to point out that with the current conservative SC, Progressives have actually made more progress than we have in decades. People no longer die from lack of insurance, and people are free to marry whom they choose. Either of those 2 alone would be monumental, together they're a once in a life time thing. You can thank Roberts (seriously).

It also shows that the SC argument is on shaky ground. You can't fear the unknown. You just can't. It doesn't make sense here especially, at least not with what we've seen historically from that court.

[BlueCaliDem]

89. The gutting of Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act. Citizens United victory. Really?

I believe you should take your own advice and rethink your supportive Roberts/Scalito argument.

Do you seriously think that any of President Gore appointees would've gutted the Voting Rights Act that's now going to suppress voters this coming election?

Do you seriously think that any of President Gore appointees would have stood on the side of Scalia and Thomas to sit there and say with a straight face that money equals freedom of speech??

Do you seriously believe that high-paid Republican lawyers would dare challenge the PPACA with President Gore appointed SCOTUS justices??

Do you seriously believe that the lawsuit to overturn Prop H8 and thus make same-sex marriages constitutional nationwide would've had even the slightest chance of being rejected with President Al Gore's SCOTUS appointees?

And do you seriously believe that Roberts and Alito are assets to American democracy??

And this coming from a poster who claims to be a Bernie Sanders supporter. I'm not convinced at all.

[draa]

90. Gore didn't win the election.

Gore couldn't win the election. Period. Nothing else you said is even possible because of that. The fact that the election was rigged meant Gore would never be President. Ever. No amount of wishing and hoping or italics will ever change that. Just like 2004 was rigged in Ohio, 2000 was rigged in Florida. Unless your name was George W Bush you would never be President those 2 elections. So asking if Gore had won is pointless because he didn't win. And he never could.


edit: BlueCaliDem, I should have told you I live in Florida and voted for Gore in 2000. I followed that election pretty closely, including the recounts and the "hanging chads" fiasco. It was clearly stolen in 2000. It's now looking like what we suspected in Ohio 2004 also occurred (saw an article a few days ago somewhere detailing what was found). Anyway, Happy Holidays.

[farleftlib]

7. LOL

Thanks for that.

[ViseGrip]

8. How assuming and stupid.

[farleftlib]

11. And you are?

Still LMAO.

[GoneFishin]

9. It's hard to say. Bernie is a bigger threat to the status quo than most Republicans.

[liberal N proud]

10. You are a little ahead of yourself

There are primaries to complete.

And in the event that Hillary wins, will the Bernie supporters get over it?

[NorthCarolina]

12. They didn't view Obama as

and "evil Socialist" though; they Hate Socialism.

For instance, when they think of his plans for Free College tuition they can't get past the thought that THEY will be FORCED to PAY to send Donald Trumps kids to Piedmont Community College, or maybe even the University of North Dakota!

I'm sure we all recall these exact claims being posted a few weeks back by Hillary folk. That's the important take away for them, the thing they despise. Forget the benefit to our society as a whole through such a program because, to them, it does not outweight the mental anguish of knowing their tax dollars may get Jamie Diamonds kids a free Associates Degree from the community college of their choice.

[Skidmore]

22. I have yet to see one Hillary supporter say this.

[Scootaloo]

29. It's not about policy or positions with them

They didn't hate Obama in '08 because he was slightly to the left of Clinton. They hated him for a much more... visible reason.

[ConservativeDemocrat]

41. Wow. Now you're accusing Hillary supporters in '08 of racism?

Millions upon millions of democrats? More democratic voters than those who voted for Obama?

I was more for Obama then than I am now, but that statement right there shows just how nutcase so many DU Sandersistas have always been.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[Scootaloo]

45. Lots of them, yes.

And I think it's only gotten worse, frankly. See my posts above. I doubt the sort of shit we see from clinton supporters today would have been tolerated seven years ago.

[ConservativeDemocrat]

54. Ehhh. "lots" Okay.

It's the old "proof in your own mind" trick.

Meanwhile, actual Democratic minority voters strongly support Hillary. Much of the Clinton Foundation charity is dedicated to helping people suffering historic racial oppression, and the Sandersistas attacks against the Foundation and the work is does have not gone unnoticed. Further, there has been a systematic attack through misuse of the alert system against minority posters on the DU.

That's the actual reality of this.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[DFW]

52. Hey, I saw a post a few minutes ago

It turned out to be from the Sanders board, and it was citing that Wasserman-Schultz, whose record has indeed been far less than stellar as DNC chair, had been a failure in 2014, 2012, 2010 and 2008.

In 2008, Howard was DNC chair--a rather spectacularly successful one, too. In 2010, it was Tm Kaine. BUT, I guess there's no reason to let facts get in your way...........

[ConservativeDemocrat]

62. It's always harder to defend a majority than to snipe from the sidelines

Don't get me wrong, Dean did a great job as chair. But everyone who knows anything about politics knew that 2008 was going to be a high-water mark for Democrats. That we managed to hold on to the Senate for so long, especially in the Reid and Coons races, shows how effective the DNC and DSCC have been.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[DFW]

76. If you ask me, our biggest "asleep at the wheel" moment was in the CheneyBush days

Rove and Cheney had Citizens United in their sights when they nominated Roberts and Alito to the Supreme Court. We just didn't see it coming. Cheney had to have known that there was no way a Democrat would lose the presidency in 2008. That's why they finally let McCain have his nomination, and let him sink with Palin--something they never would have done had they seen a chance to keep the White House. Angle and O'Donnell were just testing to see how deep the cesspool was, and the answer was pretty deep, though not THAT deep.

On here, no matter HOW many good points Sanders brings up, his positives get obscured in anger-filled barrages of clichés containing obligatory Fox-like numbing repetition of "corporate, oligarch, 1%, warmongering, annointed one" etc. etc. Remind me again--repeating that stuff 250 times a day makes Bernie the better candidate..how? When Roger Ailes first started Fox "News," and was asked if he would provide objective reporting, he answered, maybe more candidly than he intended, "we have an agenda." In other words, NO. I want to hear what Bernie has got going for him. I know the domestic agenda, sorta, but as an ex-pat, there are other issues he has not addressed. Hillary and O'Malley haven't addressed them either, which is why you can still color me undecided. There are some of us who think the world does not end at Cape Hatteras or the western shore of Kaua'i. "I won't ever vote for Hillary because, #875" comes no closer to addressing that matter than does a chart of last month's regional championship matches of 43 Man Squamish.

[ConservativeDemocrat]

92. I like Sanders

He's not my first preference because of a few issues I disagree with him on (and also because he will be very easily smeared by billions of dollars of Republican lies), but I've always been clear that I'm okay with Sanders himself.

His supporters through. Man do they seem to hate the Democratic party. And how the hell are we going to win an election with Sanders, with people like them attacking anyone who isn't 150% feeling a Bern?

But I've told fellow Hillary supporters time and time again, don't hold the extremists who like a candidate against the candidate himself. (By the way, this goes both ways, there are some more moderate Wall Street types who want Hillary, and that's not a terrible thing, because there are reasonable financiers who don't deserved to be demonized just as there are reasonable Muslims who don't deserve that either.)

I will be very glad when this primary season is over. However it turns out.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[JRLeft]

13. I already said I would for the judges.

[Renew Deal]

15. I expect the same thing of the Sanders supporters when Sanders gives his endorsement speech

at the convention.

[Cal33]

16. Yes, and I am one of those who much prefers Bernie, but I would vote for Hillary

in the GE, should she win the Primaries. I can't see myself not voting or voting
for a Republican.

[fredamae]

17. I voted For HRC in 2008 Primary

Voted For PBO-twice.
I am voting for Bernie in 2016.

[brooklynite]

18. Remind me, which States will Bernie will in the Primary?

I'll give him Vermont.

[KamaAina]

19. He's well ahead in New Hampshire.

After he takes that, the M$M will have to acknowledge his existence. After that, all bets are off.

[brooklynite]

31. The Rudy Giuliani approach?

Find a State where people know you and try to build a national campaign from there?

[Fawke Em]

39. I think you're going to be shocked.

And, I look forward to it.

[floriduck]

46. He's not dying.

No need to will any states.

[Bleacher Creature]

27. The problem is that many aren't actually Democrats.

I've seen a bunch of the bragging that they not only voted Nader in 2000 and 2004, but also third party against Obama at least one (if not both) time(s).

[ConservativeDemocrat]

42. That's not generally true. It's only true on the DU.

Among the general Democratic electorate, the vast majority of Bernie supporters like what Hillary is saying, and vice versa.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[JDPriestly]

49. I don't. I don't even consider Hillary to be a Democrat.

[farleftlib]

55. I consider her a DINO at best

She is faaaaaaaar out in right field on most issues, domestic and foreign.

[Bleacher Creature]

63. Ok, that's a fair point.

I was mostly focused on some of the stuff I've seen on DU, which is frankly pretty terrifying. Some of the "my way or the highway" nonsense and railing against the "oligarchy" isn't much different from what you see from the Paul weirdos on the other side. The only difference is the identity of the bogeyman.

[Stuckinthebush]

32. Of course they would

That's a no-brainer.

[BlueCaliDem]

34. Bwaaaaaahahahahaha!

[99Forever]

35. K.R

[Dawson Leery]

36. I am sure you Bernie supporters will

be happy in 2018 when we all unite to support a real Democrat against him for US senate.

[Fawke Em]

40. OK. He'll be in the White House, so we'll need to have a Democrat

in the Senate in his place.

[Cynical Sam]

37. ONLY...

...when FACTS become more important than hype and name-recognition.

[KamaAina]

38. Mahalo (thank you)!

And welcome to DU!

[JDPriestly]

47. Obama was a good candidate and acceptable to all.

He showed good judgment in opposing the Iraq War. He had a good record.

That is, in my opinion, not the case with Hillary. She has shown terrible judgment in situation after situation. She has changed her mind -- mostly because she didn't make up her mind based on moral principles in the first place.

She doesn't seem to even think about the principles of things and then decide based on those principles what stance to take on issues. She is "pragmatic" to a fault which means she just kind of puts up her pinky, feels the direction of the wind and allows herself to be swept with it.

Not a person of principle. Although she does try to appear and act like she has a backbone. In reality people with a backbone consult principles before they decide what they think about things.

So I for one cannot in good conscience vote for Hillary even if she wins the nomination. I will vote for all the other Democrats on the ballot. I know many of them personally although not well. I know their records. If they change their minds on issues, it is not to please the current opinion polls, it is based on their consciences and their principles.

Hillary -- I do not trust her. I do not respect her. I cannot in good conscience vote for her.

Listen to the interview with Seymour Hersh on Democracy Now. Hillary may have "experience" and know all the right words to say when it comes to foreign policy, but she does not have the judgment that is needed to manage foreign policy or our military power.

And I am a 72-year-old woman who would love to have a woman be president. It is embarrassing for our country that we claim to stand for women's rights and have so few women in high places in our government. But Hillary is not the right woman.

And because she is not the right woman, I don't think she can be elected.

I'm for Bernie and no one else. I will vote for all other Democrats on my ballot, but not for Hillary.

[Gman]

48. No question

If the unlikely happens

[Tarc]

51. +1 for trolling, at least

By and large it is not Hillary supporters screaming their allegiance to her and her only, it is a tiny, shrill subset of Sanders suppporters doing do for him.

[Jarqui]

57. PUMA 2008 "Party Unity My Ass" a Hillary's support group

Approximately 25% polled declared they vote for McCain right after Hillary's concession speech. Maybe they cooled down.

[billhicks76]

58. After Their Racist Baiting?

We still remember that Obama pic in a turban they shopped around. They lost because of stuff like that and deserve to lose again. Stop worrying about how people vote.

[Todays_Illusion]

59. They didn't get over it and immediately began attacking, not supporting President Obama and

continued to be a bigger enemy and nastier opposition, than the entire Republican/conservative population of the nation for the entirety of both terms.

[billhicks76]

61. No Ones Business How People Will Vote

[Thinkingabout]

65. Except Sanders can't get enough delegates from Iowa and NH to

Win the nomination so it will be Sanders voters getting over it and voting for Hillary.

[farleftlib]

68. Same thing I heard 8 years ago about Obama

President Obama.

[Thinkingabout]

70. As many have been reminded before several times, Sanders is not an Obama, Sanders has never given

The keynote speech at the DNC Convention and at this point in time it is not possible for Sanders to give the keynote speech at the prior DNC Convention. Go figure.

[farleftlib]

71. So true, so true

Sanders is not Obama, he's actually a progressive who resonates with the people despite being virtually locked out of the dialogue.

[Thinkingabout]

72. Not enough people.

[farleftlib]

73. And yet

he's polling better in the GE than HRC. Somebody's listening.

[Thinkingabout]

74. Yes, I am listening to the polls, Sanders is running around 30%, Hillary is polling higher.

[farleftlib]

75. He beats Trump by 13 pct points

to Hill's 7.

But OK that must be the new math you're workin' there.

[Thinkingabout]

79. How does he get to the GE, through the primaries, guess who is in the lead? Hillary is. This is

where I get the numbers, not new math just fact on the presidential elections has a primary process to go through before the General Election.

[Dawson Leery]

69. kick

[Aerows]

77. Yes, and I nearly choked on my tea

when a Hillary supporter said "We don't have a nominee, yet".

[Katashi_itto]

82. LOLOlOLO

[seabeyond]

83. We have almost exclusively, repeatedly stated that. Sanders people haven't been as consciensious

About it, though. You might want to have a conversation with Sanders supporters. Not be redundant with Clinton supporters.

[aikoaiko]

87. At least 60 percent will if she's the nominee.

It depends on the candidate.

[ismnotwasm]

88. If it comes to that

Senator Sanders will have my full support

[eridani]

91. Most, not all n/t

[AgingAmerican]

93. Most of today's Hillary supporters were Obama supporters in 2008