Anti-Islam Video by “Sam Bacile" Silly & Poorly Made. Knowing Potential Outcome Make It Unpatriotic

[egbertowillies]

Original Post HERE.

I just watched the fourteen minute Mohammad Movie Trailer. I am not sure why I watched the entire trailer. It seemed like an elementary school movie project at best.

I will be honest, as an American who is a humanist with very Liberal values I just found the trailer comical not just because it was a bad parody of Islam, but because the dialogue was so pointless. No matter what religion is being mocked, after watching the trailer no culturally immersed American would be concerned about it or react to it.

That said, my cultural sensitivity allows me to empathize with those who have been programmed to believe that a video of this type is sacrilege to Islam. Make no mistake; those that harm, maim, or kill the innocent because of the perceived sacrilege must be punished.

It is important however to note that we are cognizant that folks that have been immersed in a particular culture that is neither democratic nor humane are predisposed to act out as they have in Cairo and other places because they believe they were aggrieved. Those that are free have the choice to exercise the wide dimension of their freedom which inclusive is the option to denigrate all. In doing so they must be ready for the blow back, knowing that said blowback just may be harsh, inhumane, and life threatening.

Those that have effected the release of this video must only be described as unpatriotic. It is true they have the right to do it. Knowing in these volatile times that it created unrest unnecessarily should have been enough to not release an anti-Islam, racist, and hateful piece of crap like this. The blood of Ambassador Chris Stevens, and 3 diplomats are partially on the hands of them as the unrest likely allowed Al-Qaeda types to perpetrate the assassinations.

[LongTomH]

1. I did an IMDB search on 'Sam Bacile'

The closest match was for an actor: Sam Basile (note the 'S' not a 'C') who only acted in a short feature.

[Dkc05]

2. Who was behind it? Mitt or the Mossad ---

Story is they can't find this alledged Israeli Jew "Sam Bacile" this must be a made up hoax to stir the pot. there must be very serious political players behind it. They want to discredit our President. I don't buy this one bit.

[karynnj]

10. Why would Moussad finger Israel - That pretty much rules them out

Sorry to disturb your conspiracy theory.

If you want to make up a conspiracy theory - which I think not productive - consider that it is likely that the person who actually created it was likely a Copt (Egyptian Christian) and it is promoted by the far right minister, who burned Korans.

Consider who is hurt and who benefits if the film is blamed on the US and Israel.

[Cybercat]

3. I'm sorry, but...

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Even if the film was made by political hacks, it's still just a stupid movie. Mittens came off like a goon launching that attack, but conservatives have a point about the freedom of speech. Anyone that reacts that way to such a film is a piece of shit with a fucked up point of view. That transcends culture. People shouldn't be afraid to comment on a religious figure. You know how many great comedians mock Jesus? They didn't deserve to be murdered over it. I don't have to see everything through this prism of sociological BS. If people want to make their voice heard, take a page from Gandhi and do it the civilized way through non-violence. I don't care where what country you live in. In the US, free speech should not be chilled like that through threat of violence even if it's speech that's deplorable.

[emilyg]

4. +1,000

[Warren DeMontague]

5. You realize the irony in defending free speech by telling someone to "shut up", of course.

I agree that folks who have invisible friends in the sky that tell them to riot because of cartoons and movies, or who tell them to bomb clinics, fly planes into buildings, pass laws to keep people they've never met from getting married or using birth control--- those folks ought to keep their imaginary, intolerant, rule-making friends in their own heads where they belong, and maybe they also need to purchase a reality clue and grow up.

And you will find no fiercer defender of the 1st Amendment than yours truly.

Nevertheless, telling someone you disagree with to "shut up please" isn't good form around here. FYI.

[Cybercat]

6. Telling someone to shut up is free speech. LOL.

If I didn't believe in free speech, like some of out Middle East "friends," I would be threatening you over it.

Sometimes, I feel liberals need to have a stronger back bone about things like free speech. There's too many of us that come off like those people in the farmer's market offended by Gallagher doing his watermelon routine in that insurance commercial. As utterly moronic as those "film" clips" are, I'm actually glad Youtube hasn't taken them down. It's going to be a sad day in America when a bunch of people with the maturity of toddlers and the reasoning power of schizophrenics on the other side of the globe can dictate to us what is constitutionally protected speech or not. I'm beginning to see some people with spines made of laffy taffy already comparing this to "shouting fire in a crowded theater," which is absolutely ludicrous. We have to be careful about this kind of stuff, because some people are willing to throw our rights away.

[leftynyc]

7. Well said and welcome

I've been called a first amendment purist at times. There is no right not to be offended and I certainly don't want to have to watch what I say because a bunch of murderous thugs across the map get their feelings hurt.

[Warren DeMontague]

9. It'd be nice if folks would pepper their spirited defenses of free speech w/ a bit more reading comp

but, whatever.

I'll put my 1st Amendment Purism up against anyone else's, here, by the way.

[Warren DeMontague]

8. Right, and me pointing out the irony of it is likewise free speech.

Also, while your first Amendment Rights are absolutely paramount, on DU you're not going to be able to directly insult people without risking breaking the site rules. Like I said, telling someone to "shut up" is considered bad form.

But you will probably do what you want, even if that includes not paying attention or comprehending the stuff people say to you, "LOL".

Welcome to DU.