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K8-EEE

(15,667 posts)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:26 AM Sep 2012

WTF with a "trailer" for a film that doesn't exist? Insults to Islam dubbed in post production?

Wait, the actors were given a script and then they edited Islam insults in, then made a "promo" for somethign that DOESN'T EXIST? By a person with a fake name that also doesn't exist. Then the thing is put out there on 9/11...

This is so beyond fishy, it stinks to high heaven. The outrageous post production add ons remind me of James O'Keefe of the "look we were dressed like pimps" fake ACORN tapes.

Hey Romney, you better hope this mystery doesn't get traced back to anybody with campaign ties. Because that would be the scandal of all scandals.

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WTF with a "trailer" for a film that doesn't exist? Insults to Islam dubbed in post production? (Original Post) K8-EEE Sep 2012 OP
I think it was "released" months ago to a small audience, not on 9/11/2012. greyl Sep 2012 #1
Scheduled a screening "of the trailer" Who schedules a screening of the PROMO OF A MOVIE? K8-EEE Sep 2012 #3
That's incorrect, or at least not proven frazzled Sep 2012 #5
religions cannot be insulted. only live people can be insulted. nt msongs Sep 2012 #2
Insulting religions insults religions people K8-EEE Sep 2012 #4
Being able to insult a religion means you live in a free society. Cybercat Sep 2012 #6
Not when it's done deliberately to incite violence. Zoeisright Sep 2012 #7
It's not a hate crime. Cybercat Sep 2012 #9
Hate crime? Are you crazy? davidn3600 Sep 2012 #10
Exactly. Cybercat Sep 2012 #11
But people living in Egypt or Libya live in theocratically-controlled states K8-EEE Sep 2012 #8
So? Cybercat Sep 2012 #12
The "trailer sale" is an old trick. sofa king Sep 2012 #13
Thank you for posting that davidpdx Sep 2012 #14

greyl

(22,990 posts)
1. I think it was "released" months ago to a small audience, not on 9/11/2012.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:52 AM
Sep 2012

(if I correctly heard and remember what was said on NPR this afternoon)

edit: Ah, Mitt's pal Pastor Terry Jones was the one who put it out on the anniversary of 9/11:

"In our conversations," Jones said, "he has never given us his name."

On tonight's All Things Considered, NPR's Elizabeth Blair explains that the film received attention because Jones scheduled a screening of the trailer for Sept. 11.

That got picked up by Jones' friend, an Egyptian-born Christian activist in Washington, D.C., named Morris Sadek.

Dion Nissenbaum, a reporter for The Wall Street Journal, told Elizabeth that Sadek promoted the event through his email list, which goes out to many Egyptian journalists.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/09/12/161003427/what-we-know-about-sam-bacile-the-man-behind-the-muhammad-movie

K8-EEE

(15,667 posts)
3. Scheduled a screening "of the trailer" Who schedules a screening of the PROMO OF A MOVIE?
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 10:09 AM
Sep 2012

But at least Terry Jones is a real person and they should be grilling him HARD on what he knows about this...

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
5. That's incorrect, or at least not proven
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 10:52 AM
Sep 2012

The statement about the "film" (there is no "film&quot being screened at a sparsely attended Hollywood venue earlier was a quote from a telephone interview with the non-existent "Sam Basile."

There is no 2-hour film. They might have shot two hours of footage to get this cheap and badly produced 14-minute trailer, but no human being has admitted to seeing a feature-length film.

K8-EEE

(15,667 posts)
4. Insulting religions insults religions people
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 10:40 AM
Sep 2012

And I think this trailer was promoted soley for that purpose with an eye to political gain.

 

Cybercat

(56 posts)
9. It's not a hate crime.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 01:39 AM
Sep 2012

It's a movie. Film is protected free speech. Beyond that, this movie is utterly ridiculous. They may as well have been flipping out over an episode of South Park. Free speech doesn't have to end because someone posted some random crap on Youtube, and some idiots on the other side of the world that don't have reasoning ability flip out over it. It would be like changing the law so parents have to give into every whim of toddlers throwing tantrums.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
10. Hate crime? Are you crazy?
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 02:05 AM
Sep 2012

From what I've seen, the movie doesnt tell people go out and riot and kill government officials. All it does is insult a religion. That's not a hate crime. That's freedom of speech.

South Park insults Jesus all the time. If the Christians went out and started to riot because of that, should those creators be jailed for a hate crime?

K8-EEE

(15,667 posts)
8. But people living in Egypt or Libya live in theocratically-controlled states
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 01:27 AM
Sep 2012

That do not recognize free speech, and they are the ones in harm's way.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
13. The "trailer sale" is an old trick.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:50 AM
Sep 2012

Trey Stone and Matt Parker famously got one of their early films off the ground (Cannibal! The Musical) by making a trailer for the film (which had yet to be shot), and then groveling for "completion funds." When they got them, they shot the film, but some of the actors changed roles.

Aside from the purely operational aspects of this incident, including providing "someone" with the distraction that an infiltration team would need to breach the Benghazi consulate and prepare an ambush for reinforcements, it looks to me as if the people behind this film were also playing the "trailer sale." As far as I can tell, the actual film has not been completed or shown.

Now, having killed several people and causing millions in damage to our government and Lybia's, they'll probably get the funds they need to complete the film. Because evil is, above all else, profitable.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
14. Thank you for posting that
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:45 AM
Sep 2012

I'd never heard of that before. It's always interesting when someone can add information like that which might not be common knowledge.

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