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awake

(3,226 posts)
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 03:54 PM Dec 2015

Which candidate has the best chance of wining the most seats in congress

We need to win back the Senate and take as many seats in the house as we can, does any of our candidates have a better chance of doing this more than any other, if so who & why?

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Which candidate has the best chance of wining the most seats in congress (Original Post) awake Dec 2015 OP
With any Democratic nominee I think we saltpoint Dec 2015 #1
None of our candidates would bring out more voters than another? awake Dec 2015 #2
Possible, yes, but not certain. Issues will drive saltpoint Dec 2015 #4
What A Dumb Question... Chuckle CorporatistNation Dec 2015 #7
I know you are trying to be funny awake Dec 2015 #8
Anyone voting for a highly risky Democratic Socialist... Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #14
What's the risk awake Dec 2015 #16
Support whomever. That was not the question. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #20
What a ridiculous argument FreakinDJ Dec 2015 #10
My hope is that the Senate goes blue and saltpoint Dec 2015 #17
Then you would be hoping Bernie wins the nom FreakinDJ Dec 2015 #18
I do in fact hope saltpoint Dec 2015 #19
I think there are separate elections for each of those seats treestar Dec 2015 #3
I feel that coat tails will matter awake Dec 2015 #5
Bernie because more people will show up to vote. People who have historically given up. onecaliberal Dec 2015 #6
Definitely Bernie. in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #9
Under that situation could Trump win? awake Dec 2015 #11
If HRH is the nominee, in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #25
Sanders hands down AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #12
Don't forget, her husband had NO coattails HoneychildMooseMoss Dec 2015 #29
Neither Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #13
This is the correct answer. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #21
The DNC and DWS have done a very lossy job getting out the vote in 2014 awake Dec 2015 #23
The candidates I've spoken to are looking forward to Hillary Clinton at the top of there ticket... brooklynite Dec 2015 #15
In the long run, floriduck Dec 2015 #26
Sure, and do they say "Clinton or Sanders" or just "Clinton" The Golden One Dec 2015 #30
"If Sanders wins, we're in trouble"... brooklynite Dec 2015 #31
HRC. As long as it's not a cakewalk, which may cause some people to stay home. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #22
Hillary. She's got the broadest appeal, and also the most fundraising capacity. DanTex Dec 2015 #24
Bernie will get all the down ballot Socialists redstateblues Dec 2015 #27
Bernie. peacebird Dec 2015 #28
that's hard to say. Sen. Sanders would inspire a more fired up grassroots campaign Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #32

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
1. With any Democratic nominee I think we
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 03:58 PM
Dec 2015

have a better shot at retaking the Senate.

The House has been gerrymandered beyond easy reach. Not out of the question, but a far tougher trip.

Our chances at significant gains in the House improve, IMO, if Cruz and Trump win three or four of the first primary / caucus contests.

That will set into motion an error-prone reaction by GOP power brokers who will be in full panic mode because they know nominating either a fascist or a malevolent fundie spells disaster for a lot of down-ballot races.


awake

(3,226 posts)
2. None of our candidates would bring out more voters than another?
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 04:06 PM
Dec 2015

I am thinking since there is a lot of simularity in our candidates issues then question comes down to which one could turn out a larger number of independent or even republican voters who might help us get seats in congress.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
4. Possible, yes, but not certain. Issues will drive
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 04:09 PM
Dec 2015

a national election, minus the distortion of those issues by media, and minus the degree of awareness in some voters.

There are what pollster have called "low-information voters," and they may not be voting with any nuanced perceptions.

To my set of pre-primary scales, any Democratic nominee gives us a better than even shot at retaking the Senate.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
7. What A Dumb Question... Chuckle
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 04:12 PM
Dec 2015

Why Hillary Clinton of course what with her nuanced positions and ability to Triangulate at the drop of a hat... She will have the trust of all the people all the time...

awake

(3,226 posts)
8. I know you are trying to be funny
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 04:15 PM
Dec 2015

But I am begaining to think this question my be one of the most important questions in desiding whom to vote for.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
10. What a ridiculous argument
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 04:21 PM
Dec 2015

The HRC camp knows they have a problem with young voters. HRC and the DNC are gambling they can win the GE without them which automatically will hand the House and Senate to the GOP

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
17. My hope is that the Senate goes blue and
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 04:46 PM
Dec 2015

we pick up a significant number of House seats, forcing Ryan to deal with Democrats in that chamber.

The demographic turnout percentages can be discussed but not known until after votes are cast.

Allegiances can shift. Voting percentages often shift with them.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
18. Then you would be hoping Bernie wins the nom
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 04:56 PM
Dec 2015

Hillary is not bring any youth votes to the table and as hateful as the GOP base is of her they will turn out in droves to vote against her.

Bernie on the other hand has already begun to mobilize an Army of Young Voters. Voters that would possibly be voting for Dem candidates for years to come.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
19. I do in fact hope
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 05:01 PM
Dec 2015

Bernie wins the nomination.

But the percentages of demographic turnout are theoretical until the vote is counted and the results analyzed.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
3. I think there are separate elections for each of those seats
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 04:06 PM
Dec 2015

our candidate for President does not run for those seats.

This magical "top down" thinking is not so absolute that you should refer to it as winning or losing being the responsibility of the Presidential candidate.

As to "coattails" Hillary would have more of them as she has a longer relationships and ties to the Democratic party.

awake

(3,226 posts)
5. I feel that coat tails will matter
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 04:09 PM
Dec 2015

Also if any of our candidates could dramatically increases voter turn out we could win more seats.

onecaliberal

(32,882 posts)
6. Bernie because more people will show up to vote. People who have historically given up.
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 04:11 PM
Dec 2015

if the corporate candidate gets the nomination, millions of dems will sit it out, sadly. It's what we've seen in the past. I guess the party refuses to learn from its mistakes. It's easier for them to blame the victims. The people whose lives are really hurt and ruined by the corporate politics of the last 3 decades. Death by 1000 paper cuts is still death.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
9. Definitely Bernie.
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 04:20 PM
Dec 2015

TRUE Progressives, Independents, Millenials, some Repubs, Baby Boomers will vote for Bernie and every other Progressive /LIBERAL down the ballot.

On the other hand, HRH IS LOATHED, DESPISED, HATED WITH A PASSION, by the Gop/Teabaggers who will show up IN DROVES just to vote against a CLINTON. Not only will they vote for someone in the clown car, but they will vote for all the other GOP/TEABAGGERS down ticket.

BERNIE = HUGE COATTAILS.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

awake

(3,226 posts)
11. Under that situation could Trump win?
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 04:30 PM
Dec 2015

I remember thinking that no one could vote for Ronald Regun or Ventura

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
25. If HRH is the nominee,
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 06:51 PM
Dec 2015

Trump WILL win if he's the REPUB nominee.

Millennials, Independents, Many, many boomers and TRUE Progressives are not going to vote for Hillary. That's just a fact. HRH cannot win the GE. Bernie Can win and will. Bernie has the support of the 99%. HRH has the support of the 1%.

99% > 1%.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
12. Sanders hands down
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 04:37 PM
Dec 2015

There is no excitement around the Hillary campaign. DWS/Third Way® has cost us massively the last two midterms. Given Hillary is joined at the hip with Debbie Wasserman Schultz, we would see even more losses should she win.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
21. This is the correct answer.
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 05:14 PM
Dec 2015

(The question presented in the OP makes as much sense as the old riddle about a no-man's-land train wreck that asks "where would you bury the survivors?&quot

awake

(3,226 posts)
23. The DNC and DWS have done a very lossy job getting out the vote in 2014
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 05:32 PM
Dec 2015

I believe that who is at the top of the ticket may very well effect voter turn out ether for or against them which could make a difference in some House and Senate races. So as I am trying to think about whom I should vote for in the primary I will be thinking about this question.

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
26. In the long run,
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 07:02 PM
Dec 2015

If Hill wins and makes, wait for it-DWS her Press Secy, the party could get a qualified Demo Socialist to run the party. That will result in future gains in both Houses of Govemrnment. But we all known Hill will only find another third Wayer to take over the DNC.

Since political incest with Hill in office will kill what's left of this country as we once knew it, we better sure as shit elect Bernie.

 

MeNMyVolt

(1,095 posts)
22. HRC. As long as it's not a cakewalk, which may cause some people to stay home.
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 05:18 PM
Dec 2015

The party is basically united behind her, even before the 1st vote.

Much of this depends on the Puke nominee. A Rubio/Kasich ticket will be tough. A Trump/whothefuckever will not.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
32. that's hard to say. Sen. Sanders would inspire a more fired up grassroots campaign
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 09:26 AM
Dec 2015

He would also probably do better at attracting cross over voters including independents and some Republicans. While Secretary Clinton would do better on the fund raising angle as well as working with the Party machinery. ON the other hand Secretary Clinton would probably inspire the Republicans and Republican leaning independents to come out and vote against her in bigger numbers than Senator Sanders would.

All these things could to some degree effect the turnout for the U.S. Senate campaigns. I don't think it's possible to say just now who would contribute more in the effort to take back the Senate.

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