2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBill Clinton to hit campaign trail for Hillary Clinton in January
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bill-clinton-to-hit-campaign-trail-for-hillary-clinton-in-january/
Former President Bill Clinton will hit the campaign trail for his wife on Jan. 4, Hillary Clinton's campaign announced Monday.
His first campaign trip for Hillary Clinton will be in Nashua, followed by another event later that afternoon in Exeter. Both events are, according to the campaign, grassroots organizing events.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)There are lots of these out there.
They keep sinking off the front page for a reason.
Have a nice day.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Some of us are eager with anticipation to see the Big Dog get out on the trail.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)ronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)SMOOOOOOCHES!
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)But good luck.
ronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)riversedge
(70,248 posts)photo and glad it is posted.
cali
(114,904 posts)ronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)when he busted his ass for President Obama?
global1
(25,253 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Or am I thinking of Hannibal Lector?
global1
(25,253 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)murielm99
(30,745 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)It will be something that many have been looking forward to.
I think this is making Trump very nervous. He is publically announcing that he will attack Clinton on his past infidelity. According to Trump, he is stomping for Hillary, that makes Bill a valid target. I personally think he's hoping Bill will slink into the background to avoid the uncomfortable history. But hey, this is the person that has like minded followers that Sanders is wooing. Trump makes me sick.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I dunno what Bill's sick face looks like, but I don't think it looks like any of those.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)I don't think Trump knows how to be friends with anyone. Business deals are the closest he comes to making relationships.
But sheesh, you go ahead and create what ever narrative you want based on some socialite pictures.
Best friends, huh? Good luck with the sell on that when Teump has already started mouthing off regarding Hillary. You still want to push that idiotic meme?
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-bill-clinton-attacks-will-come-out-very-well-us-n487671
The GOP frontrunner has directly referenced Clinton's sexual improprieties in recent days.
"Youu look at whether it's Monica Lewinsky or Paula Jones or many of them," he said on NBC's TODAY on Tuesday. "That certainly will be fair game. Certainly if they play the woman's card with respect to me, that will be fair game."
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Sanders can't talk to voters who lean for Trump, because Trump is awful and that makes sanders awful too, but Bill Clinton can "schmooze" with Trump himself, and all is fine.
Funny, isn't it, how you hold a Jew to a radically more stringent and harsher standard than the whiteanglosaxonprotestant.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)That's all on your precious Bernie.
Now, why would you attempt to introduce Bernie's Jewishness into this conversation? That's just plain weird.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Demonstrate this claim please.
Because you are irrationally holding him to a vastly different standard. Bill gets to 'schmooze" without even a peep of criticism, but sanders gets shit for talking to voters while running for president.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Where a Jewish man running for presient is a piece of shit for talking to voters on the other side, but a private whiteanglosaxonprotestant citizen hanging out ("schmoozing" with a horrible vocal racist of his own volition is free to do so with no complaint.
Do you have a better explanation for this weird and irrational double standard?
also, do you have any proof for your claim that Sanders is "undermining the principles of the democratic Party"? I'd loveto see it, if so.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I'm pointing out that you hold a clear double standard, where Bill Clinton is free to 'schmooze" with a hate-vomiting racist all the live long day, but a presidential candidate can't try to reel some voters back from "the Dark Side." I proposed one reason for this obvious and irrational double standard, but if you have a better one, i'd love to hear it. I have to admit after seeing Clinton supporters post attacks against Sanders from Stormfront and tomatobubble and such places, i really give no more fucks.
also, still waiting to see how sanders is "undermining the principles of the democratic Primary." Please tell me that you have something to back that one up, sheepshank, 'cause i'm afraid if not, well, there's a trope that such claims fit.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)He is a victim of your indecent proposal. And you are a prime example of why he will lose. You have paved the way for his ultimate loss. You should be ashamed of the tack you are trying to take here. You lie and then go on and on trying to protect and bolster your argument. Again, you have overstepped all bounds of decency.
I'm pretty much done with you.....
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)You assert that donald Trump is a terrible awful racist person and that any association with him is sickening and shameful. That since Sanders is even talking to Trump supporters, he shares in that awfulness and racism, and ought to be sick and ashamed.
well, I showed you that Bill Clinton associates with the dude. That's not a lie, that's photographic record. Of his own volition, as a private citizen, Bill Clinton spends time with a guy you call a terrible awful racist whom any association with is sickening and shameful. However yup give that a pass as "schmoozing."
That's not Bernie being victimized, that's just you having a double standard. And yes, their respective ethnicities do indeed carry importance. Whiteanglosaxonprotestant gets a pass, Jewish guy doesn't, come on you know about white privilege and the attendant ideologies, don't you?
Also, still waiting to hear about Bernie sanders "Undermining the principles of the democratic party"
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)... who brought up BS being Jewish - not anyone else. Just You.
You then accuse others of holding BS to a different standard, and then claim this double standard is due to the fact that BS is Jewish.
You really should be embarrassed enough to self-delete. All of it.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)But what I've seen from clinton's supporters is that there is apparently no Standard Sanders can meet. You guys set one, he exceeds it, and you just claim the standard is much higher. meanwhile you hold Clinton to absolutely no standards whatsoever. he writes a stupid satire in 1973, and you guys call him a rapist. Clinton annihilates two entire fucking natuons and it's wter under the bridge. Sanders yields his spot to a BLM activist and he's a white supremacist. clinton has BLM activists dragged bodily away from her stage, and she's hailed as presidential.
And now we have this one, where Sanders is lower than pig shit because he's talking to voters who may prefer Trump, but bill can hang out with Trump all the live long day and it's just great, no problem.
Now I pair that with clinton supporters and their love of Stormfront. I pair it with with Clinton supporters and their love of tomatobubble. I pair it with clinton supporters and their defense of Louis Farrakhan. I pair it with Clinton supporters and their use of Gateway Pudit / Progressives Today as sources. I pair it with claims that Sanders has a "nest egg in israel" and that he's a dual citizen of Israel and that all Jews are racists, all coming from clinton supporters. I see the constant claims that he's dishonest, that he's two-faced, that he can't be trusted, that his apologies are lies, that he's a sneaky skulking underhanded socialist who only cares about money and is infultrating an organization to tear it down from within.
And you might say I see a pattern emerging.
So please do tell me a rational reason for this crazy-ass double standard going on here, because there definitely Is a double standard.
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)... which is rather ridiculous on its face, and get to the point:
I see that most, if not all, of the BS supporters here hate Debbie Wasserman-Schultz. Is that because she's Jewish? I can't think of any other explanation.
Do you see how ridiculous that sounds?
Many of us don't like BS - and we all have our reasons. Many of us don't think he is qualified to be the nominee or POTUS - for a myriad of reasons. Many of us don't see the above-reproach messianic figure his supporters see, and we question his motives, his behaviour, his statements, and his attitude.
None of the above has anything to do with his being Jewish. What you are basically saying is that the only reason anyone would not be a Bernie supporter, or would dare to criticize him, would be due to anti-Semitism.
Again, do you understand how totally ridiculous that sounds?
And BTW, your "double standard" theory doesn't hold water. There's a difference between golfing with Trump and attempting to appeal to his racist followers - who, also BTW, include a lot of real anti-Semites. So good luck with that.
"clinton has BLM activists dragged bodily away from her stage, and she's hailed as presidential." We've all seen the video - ergo, we all KNOW that's not what happened. So why you're even going there is beyond me.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)yuiyoshida
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riversedge
(70,248 posts)Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)What the fuck.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Why do you care what a Bernie supporter does?