Bernie needs to make some changes in his stump speech?

[kentuck]

Perhaps so?

I think every American has probably heard his standard speech at least ten times?

In my opinion, Bernie should ask Donald Trump how great he wants this country to be? He would say to Mr Trump that we love our country very much and we would like to build it up even more to be the greatest country in the world and we would begin with our infrastructure, by creating millions of good-paying jobs. As a government of the people, doing the will of the people, we would ask everyone to contribute to the effort. If we really and truly love our country and want to be the greatest, and most respected country on earth, then we must keep our streets and roads in the very best of conditions.

Also, in my opinion, Bernie should relish the idea of being compared to FDR. He might say that he agreed with the "democratic socialist" ideas of FDR?

Or he might adopt a slogan that would identify his movement? For example, something like "Let's Put America Back To Work"? Or "A Proud FDR Democratic Socialist"?

I would agree that Bernie needs to change up his message.

[Human101948]

1. Most Americans have not heard his speech...more have heard Larry David's imersonation...

While those of use who are preoccupied with politics have heard it ten times, most Americans won't tune in until long after the primaries.

[seaglass]

5. Depends on where you live. As a MA resident we get all the NH ads. Anyone in MA who has

not heard his message does not have a TV.

[Human101948]

7. Regional diferences for sure...

Here in NJ it's like the Cone of Silence.

On the other hand repetition is effective. Just look at how the vast right wing conspiracy thrives and propsers on repetition of the same lies long ater they should have died.

[Skidmore]

2. I thought that part of his charm was

that he never changes or some such.

[Armstead]

3. Hey! Welcome back

I agree with you btw. I'd like to see Sanders vary his message more....But I dont think average people have actually had a chance to hear him much...It only seems repetitive to news and political junkies.

[kentuck]

4. Hey!

Good to see you, my old friend!

You are probably right. But his present supporters could probably use a little inspiration?

Peace.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. Can you please cite where FDR referred to himself as a Social Democrat or a Democratic Socialist?

Can you please cite where FDR referred to himself as a Social Democrat or a Democratic Socialist?

Thank you in advance.



I know his opponents did. Arthur Schlesinger, America's foremost FDR historian's, basic thesis was FDR "saved capitalism from itself."

[kentuck]

8. His opponents probably called him much worse?

But he spoke with his actions, not just his words. It was his democratic socialist policies that were so hated by Republicans, from Social Security to the WPA.

But, as I recall, he welcomed their hatred.

[MoonRiver]

15. He had a Democrattic Congress

And reasonable Republicans to work with. There's no way any modern day Dem can accomplish what FDR did.

[kentuck]

17. Yes.

Democrats need to be prepared when the people give them the majority. And go on the offensive immediately. Do not give the Republicans time to develop a strategy of opposition. But, you are correct. Democrats would need a good majority in the House and Senate to get anything done. Perhaps the first thing we need to do is to attempt to change the conversation in Washington? Government should be about the people and how to make their lives more comfortable - not how we can make the wealthy more comfortable.

[MoonRiver]

21. I agree

And I think all our candidates are doing that.

[treestar]

28. Since those policies have been enacted and expanded upon

and not repealed - Social security, etc., therefore, the USA is a Democratic Socialist nation at this time.

[Armstead]

9. I'd suggest looking at content rather than facile labels

Tell me how the message of Bernie differs from this in tone (Roosevelt 1936):


We have not come this far without a struggle and I assure you we cannot go further without a struggle.

For twelve years this Nation was afflicted with hear-nothing, see-nothing, do-nothing Government. The Nation looked to Government but the Government looked away. Nine mocking years with the golden calf and three long years of the scourge! Nine crazy years at the ticker and three long years in the breadlines! Nine mad years of mirage and three long years of despair! Powerful influences strive today to restore that kind of government with its doctrine that that Government is best which is most indifferent.

For nearly four years you have had an Administration which instead of twirling its thumbs has rolled up its sleeves. We will keep our sleeves rolled up.

We had to struggle with the old enemies of peace—business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering.

They had begun to consider the Government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs. We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.

Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me—and I welcome their hatred.

[uponit7771]

18. That's subjective... FDR never labeled himself a socialist of any kind

[kentuck]

19. Sounds like the blind men trying to describe the elephant...

"Yep, it's a tree!"

[uponit7771]

20. Or people trying to stick labels on dead people who never ascribed to said label

[kentuck]

22. Do you think FDR would have had a problem with the Democratic Socialist label?

How would he define his programs??

[uponit7771]

30. Yes, no doubt at that time he would

[AgingAmerican]

24. If it walks like a duck...

[uponit7771]

31. Subjective at best, bottom line he never labeled himself a democratic socialist and at the time...

... don't think that would be something he would ascribe to seeing there were evil dictators calling themselves socialist

[AgingAmerican]

32. If it talks like a duck....

If it quacks like a duck.

So Democratic Socialism is evil? Please list the policies of Sanders that fit under the 'Evil' category.

[uponit7771]

33. No it's not evil and no one intimated such, it was just proffered FDR wouldn't call himself a dem

...socialist seeing on the other evil bastards calling themselves such in the world at that time.

Either way, FDR authorized Japanese Americans be placed in camps... is a supremacist because he did such too?

No...

[AgingAmerican]

34. So you speak for him?

I didn't know FDR was a McCarthyist.

Which 'Evil bastards' were calling themselves "Democratic Socialists" back then? Could you list a few of those too? Thanks in advance!

[uponit7771]

35. No more than the people who said he called himself a democratic socialist

[AgingAmerican]

36. I think there's a word for that...

[nashville_brook]

10. have you seen this?

Bernie Sanders Democratic Socialism FULL Speech - Georgetown Univ - Nov 19, 2015

[merrily]

11. Senator Sanders has done that.

I doubt every American has heard his entire stump speech once, let alone ten times. Most Americans don't pay attention.

Bernie Sanders invokes FDR in explaining socialism as 'foundation of middle class'

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-sanders-socialism-20151119-story.html

Sanders appears at about 1:07 into the video, done by Bernie2016TV.

[kentuck]

12. People see what is on their TVs...

Very few will show the entire Bernie speech.

[merrily]

13. Either way, Sanders has outlined the similarities between his policies and those of FDR.

He can't help that media sabotages him.

[BKH70041]

14. Your OP is confusing.

Bernie needs to make some changes in his stump speech?

Perhaps so?

I think every American has probably heard his standard speech at least ten times?

In my opinion, Bernie should ask Donald Trump how great he wants this country to be?

He might say that he agreed with the "democratic socialist" ideas of FDR?

Or he might adopt a slogan that would identify his movement?

For example, something like "Let's Put America Back To Work"?

Or "A Proud FDR Democratic Socialist"?

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Are these questions you're asking? Because they read like declarative statements where you just ended them with a question mark.

[kentuck]

16. I understand your confusion.

I was attempting to put a questioning tone into declarative sentences, hoping to stimulate conversation. I suppose it failed?

[GeorgeGist]

23. Yes it did?

[madokie]

25. Bernie is doing just fine

his message is resonating with the people.

Bernie Sanders will be our next President.

[Motown_Johnny]

26. .

http://samuel-warde.com/tag/31000-attend-sanders-iowa-campaign-events/

^snip^


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[saltpoint]

27. Seems like the venues where

Bernie Sanders has appeared have been pretty packed.

He's getting a lot of donations from supporters.

His message is potent enough to earn the disdain and neglect of cable news and other major media.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[notadmblnd]

29. I was watching a progrma the other night

It was a motivational sort of program and was giving people advice on how to become "winners" in life and describing traits that successful people have that make them winners. One of the most basic things to becoming successful and influencing others was repetition. Saying the same thing over and over.

I think Sander's needs to keep saying what he's been saying. What I would suggest and I do think he does to a certain extent- is say the same things in a different way.