@SenGillibrand Clinton will be a champion for women & families, incl ensuring up to 12weks #paidleav

[riversedge]

A tweet from Sen. Gillibrand. Let her words speak for themselves without distortions please.

Kirsten Gillibrand ‏@SenGillibrand 17h17 hours ago

As President, @HillaryClinton will be a champion for women & families, incl ensuring up to 12 weeks of #paidleave. https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/paid-leave/ #p2

[Iliyah]

1. GOPers are going to fight this tooth and nail up to their last breaths

That's why its important to flip the senate and make gains in the house. Secure a positive US Supreme Court that represents the United States of America. HRC knows this and thats why she is also fighting for DEMS across board.

Go Hillary!

[riversedge]

8. Hillary is fund raising for Democrats down ticket. That will help.

[MoonRiver]

2. Thanks for posting truth about HRC's position on paid leave!

The outright lies about this are disgusting.

[shenmue]

25. Amen

[NCTraveler]

3. K&R

I'll try to remember to kick later considering the distortion being presented with respect to this issue.

[jeff47]

5. Yeah, it'd be terrible for distortions to be presented

Distortions like "Sanders only cares about income inequality" would be awful.

[NCTraveler]

6. I don't believe that to be a distortion.

Neither do many others. I have no clue what it has to do with the op. You might want to consider making it an op instead of hijacking someone else's. My reply was completely based on the information in the op. If you want to discuss Sanders economics only ideology, start and op or comment in an op dealing with it.

This is a very important subject this op is discussing. Please don't dismiss it as you have done here.

Thank you.

[jeff47]

7. And Clinton's opposition to family leave is not a distortion either.

Because Clinton actually does oppose Gilibrand's bill to implement it.

[NCTraveler]

10. Gilibrand doesn't even agree with you.

will be a champion for women & families, incl ensuring up to 12 weeks of #paidleave. https://www.hillarycli

Gotta be tough when the person you are speaking for doesn't even agree with you.

[jeff47]

11. I'm not speaking for her. Once again, you're mistaking policy for people.

Does Clinton oppose Gillibrand's bill? Yes.

Feel free to point out a distortion in those sentences.

[NCTraveler]

12. Ok

Clinton will be a champion for women & families, incl ensuring up to 12 weeks of #paidleave. https://www.hillarycli

[jeff47]

14. So, no you don't actually have a distortion.

Fucking facts and their anti-Clinton bias!!!

[NCTraveler]

17. Some more awesome thoughts from Gillibrand.

She is great on her own and I don't feel the need to speak for her.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153372259898411&id=6820348410&refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2FKirstenGillibrand%2Fvideos%2F10153372259898411%2F

"So no, you don't actually have a distortion."

Correct, I don't. I'm not big on distorting such an important issue. Thanks for recognizing that.

[jeff47]

18. So when it comes to "free' tuition, taxing the rich is terrible.

When it comes to family leave, taxing the rich is so great one must oppose a bill to implement family leave.

[NCTraveler]

19. Such great depth Clinton brings to the table in this area.

Love Gillabramd also. I don't buy into the it's me against the world mentality. Here is some more great reading on this topic.


http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/hillary-clinton-paid-leave_561dc534e4b0c5a1ce611241

Then there is this. Allowed to be shared in full.

Hillary will:

Guarantee up to 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave.

Ensure at least a two-thirds wage replacement rate for workers.

Pay for paid leave by making the wealthiest pay their fair share—not raising taxes on working families.

“For many workers, staying home to take care of a sick child or an aging parent means losing a paycheck—or worse, even losing a job. That is an impossible choice we shouldn’t ask anyone to make—and yet American workers are forced to make it every day.”

HILLARY, NOVEMBER 9, 2015
Today, the United States is the only developed nation in the world with no guaranteed paid leave of any kind. In fact, only 13 percent of American workers have access to paid family leave—with the lowest paid workers up to four times less likely to have access than the highest paid.

Hillary has long believed it’s past time for that to change. In an economy where both men and women typically hold down a paying job and women are breadwinners in two-thirds of families with children, paid family and medical leave is core to our economic growth and competitiveness. Paid leave helps families remain economically stable, benefits children’s early health and development by allowing parents to care for their newborn children, and reduces employee turnover. The availability of paid leave bolsters our economy by allowing more Americans to participate fully in the workforce and ensures that we don’t leave any talent on the sidelines.

As president, Hillary will:
Guarantee up to 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave. Under Hillary’s plan, workers—men and women—will be guaranteed up to 12 weeks of paid family leave to care for a new child or a seriously ill family member, such as an elderly, ailing parent or a spouse with cancer, and up to 12 weeks of medical leave to recover from a serious illness or injury of their own.

Enable hard working Americans to support their families economically while on leave. To ensure families remain stable and supported during both joyful and stressful times—like when a new baby arrives, a worker gets cancer, or an employee must care for an elderly parent suffering from Alzheimer’s—Hillary’s plan will provide financial support to workers taking leave. Under her plan, workers who have met a minimum number of hours the previous year will receive a percentage of their income during leave.

Ensure at least a two-thirds wage replacement rate for workers. Hillary’s plan will ensure that the wage replacement rate is at least two-thirds of a worker’s current wages, up to a ceiling, so that low-income and middle class workers receive the financial support they need to take the leave they need.
No new business or employee mandate. Hillary’s plan will not impose additional costs on businesses, including small businesses. There is no business or employee mandate to pay for leave, nor is there a payroll tax to pay for it.

Fund paid leave by making the wealthy pay their fair share, not by increasing taxes on working families. Hillary strongly believes that middle class families deserve a raise, not a tax increase. American families need paid leave, and to get there, Hillary will ask the wealthiest Americans to pay their fair share. She’ll ensure that the plan is fully paid for by a combination of tax reforms impacting the most fortunate.

Paid leave is crucial for families and critical to economic growth.

For too long, issues like paid leave have been dismissed as just “women’s issues” or “family issues,” but those days are over—paid leave is critical to economic growth and Hillary’s goal of raising incomes for working families. The availability of paid leave bolsters our economy by allowing more Americans to participate fully in the workforce and ensures that in America we leave no talent on the sidelines.

As Hillary said in a recent major economic speech, “The movement of women into the American workforce over the past 40 years was responsible for more than $3.5 trillion in economic growth. But that progress has stalled. The United States used to rank seventh out of 24 advanced countries in women’s labor force participation. By 2013, we had dropped to 19th. That represents a lot of unused potential for our economy and for American families. Studies show that nearly a third of this decline relative to other countries is because they’re expanding family-friendly policies like paid leave and we are not. We should be making it easier for Americans to be both good workers and good parents and caregivers. Women who want to work should be able to do so without worrying every day about how they’re going to take care of their children, or what will happen if a family member gets sick.”

Hillary has a record of fighting for families:
After graduating from Yale Law School, she went to work at the Children’s Defense Fund. Rather than going to a prestigious law firm, she became an advocate for women, families, and children. She went to work at the Children’s Defense Fund, where she helped expand access to education for children with disabilities.

As first lady of Arkansas, she championed children and families. Hillary helped start Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, helped expand the Arkansas Children’s Hospital, and helped bring the Home Instruction for Parents of Preschool Youngsters (HIPPY) program to Arkansas—one of the most innovative parents as first teachers programs in the nation.

As first lady of the United States, she helped win the fight for Family Medical Leave Act and fought for children. The first President Bush vetoed the FMLA—twice. When Bill Clinton became President, Hillary was on the front lines working to ensure the Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) was the first bill he signed into law. She went on to make her mark as a First Lady who fought for children by helping to pass the Children’s Health Insurance Program, advocating for greater investments in child care and early learning, and working to pass the Adoption and Safe Families Act.

As senator from New York, she fought for paid leave. Hillary helped expand FMLA to wounded soldiers and their families. And in her campaign for president in 2007, she proposed a national paid leave program and called for guaranteeing paid parental leave for all federal employees.

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/paid-leave/

[jeff47]

20. "Depth" as in "utterly oppose what she says on another topic"

Again, taxing the rich was terrible when it was a Sanders proposal. Why is it good when it's a Clinton proposal?

[NCTraveler]

21. Not sure why I take the time.

You didn't even read it. Just threw out another deflection.

Thanks and have an amazing Frriday. I'm still over the moon about the PP endorsement. Wonderful Friday indeed.

[jeff47]

22. I've asked that question three times. You are the one deflecting.

But it's not exactly surprising you don't have an answer, so you keep posting articles that don't discuss the contradiction in policy.

[NCTraveler]

23. I'm discussing the topic in the op.

The conversation didn't work well for you so you then attempt to distract. It doesn't work with me. I have provided you with some great info about the topic. If you want to discuss other issues please start an op.

It is no different than if I were to ask how you think Sanders supports this when he fought tooth and nail with republicans to block a pathway to citizenship for over ten million people. Families.

See. We can all do what you are doing here.

Happy Friday. I'm done with this as other than my informative posts. This is a great op and I have no interest in taking away from it.

[jeff47]

24. As am I. Clinton wants to pay for that topic using a policy she said was wrong.

What makes it right this time?

[riversedge]

9. So much distortion. Yes. Please kick later also

[jeff47]

4. Then why does Clinton oppose Gilibrand's bill to do just that? (nt)

[riversedge]

13. It is a matter of how it is paid for. But seems Gillibrand approves of Hillary's method per the

Tweet in the OP. We need to get a paid family leave in the US. As the article points out the real fight is against the Republicans on this issue.



Hillary Clinton Sets Up A Fight With Bernie Sanders Over Paid Leave
But the real contrast is with Republicans, who oppose paid leave guarantees altogether.
01/07/2016 11:25 pm ET | Updated 1 hour ago

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-paid-leave_568f2e27e4b0a2b6fb6f8d81


.....Clinton's proposal closely resembles a bill that’s been circulating on Capitol Hill, sponsored by Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) and Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-Conn.). Sanders, the senator from Vermont who is Clinton’s chief competition for the Democratic nomination, is among its co-sponsors in the Senate and has been touting its virtues repeatedly, and enthusiastically, on the campaign trail.
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But Clinton’s proposal differs from the bill in one crucial way. In order to finance the replacement wages that workers would get, the Gillibrand-DeLauro bill would impose a small payroll tax, of 0.4 percent, that employers and employees would split evenly. According to the National Partnership for Women and Families, that works out to about $1.50 per week per worker.

Sanders has said he supports that approach, because it would represent a tiny sum that the benefits would more than justify. Advocates of this approach note that Social Security and Medicare Part A have similar financing schemes -- and argue that this “social insurance” approach, in which all workers contribute a small amount through payroll taxes, gives programs political resiliency.

They also say it’s administratively simple, since an agency like the Social Security Administration already runs such programs and could take on paid leave with relative ease.

Clinton has criticized that approach repeatedly because it would mean higher taxes on lower- and middle-income workers. Instead, she has said, government should finance the new benefit by imposing new taxes on only the wealthiest Americans. Clinton says it’s a matter of fairness, since incomes for the wealthy have been rising quickly, but wages for the middle class have been stagnant.

[jeff47]

15. One does not have to oppose the bill while also preferring a different funding scheme.

Opposing the bill means she does not want it to pass at all, not that she just wants a different, yet-to-be-specified funding scheme.

Btw, that new tax on the wealthy will be an utterly fantastic target for a future tax cut. Lumping it in with payroll taxes means it far less likely to be cut, and thus the program would actually be funded. You'd think such an experienced pragmatist would understand this.

[lumberjack_jeff]

16. I'd prefer to hear the words from the candidate herself.

Gillibrand is not in a position to make Clinton campaign promises.

[Agnosticsherbet]

26. I admire Senator Gillibrand. Glad to hear her on th is critical issue. #

[Rider3]

27. I don't believe that

Although I will vote for Hillary if she becomes nominated, she is too indebted to the people who got her where she is. The only candidate who would be a champion for the middle-class and the poor is Bernie.

[stonecutter357]

28. K&R!

[Dawgs]

29. LOL!

Not a chance.

[Cha]

30. KICK!