i want to know... has anyone heard, if a woman must have a rapists baby does he get

[seabeyond]

parental custody rights after his time in jail IF he gets any jail time?

i really really want to know.

[fleur-de-lisa]

1. He won't get jail time.

If she becomes pregnant, then she wasn't raped. Get it?

[seabeyond]

4. bah hahaha

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see, i forgot.

but really, are they expecting a woman to have a rapists baby and then let the man be a father to that baby? this makes no sense.

then are they suggesting if he is not prosecuted, she is forced to put forth a rape charge, so it is documented that she was raped to maybe fight any custodial parenting? forcing women, the many women, that do not file charges for different emotional reasons. and if she doesnt then all he has to do is get dna evidence and he has all rights to be in the victims life.

boggles my mind.

i ask these people if you criminalize abortion, are the women going to jail? 4 kids at home and you are sending her to jail? if the husband agreed is he accessory adn he has to go to jail or just on the woman? then do we put the kids in foster homes?

[HockeyMom]

8. Forced marriage to him

A ring on the finger solves everthing!!!!!!!!!

[seabeyond]

12. OMG... that is so islamic. and not all islamic, i am talking the fundie of that world.

and girls... yes girls, not women, having to marry their rapists, or be killed.

[Scuba]

16. Ding,ding, ding - WINNER ! Makes me wonder if there aren't some women out there who were raped....

... by these guys.


"Hey, it wasn't 'forcible'. I didn't have to force her. She was unconscience."

[seabeyond]

18. "Hey, it wasn't 'forcible'. I didn't have to force her. She was unconscience."

and then there is that. when i was explaining to 17 yr old son aikin comment last night. he said, by the very definition of rape it is forced. and what about date rape drug????

he picked up on that immediately

[gollygee]

2. Yeah I've been wondering stuff about this too

Is he forced to pay child support? If he's in prison or otherwise unable to, does anyone pay child support (ie some kind of governmental assistance), or is she basically forced into poverty?

[seabeyond]

5. Is he forced to pay child support?... ya that too. nt

[Xipe Totec]

3. What I'm curious to know is how many of these pro-lifers are adoptive parents

and how many children from unwanted pregnancies they have taken into their homes.

If they truly believe what they preach, why are there still orphanages full to the brim with children waiting for parents.

[virgogal]

6. Are there still orphanages inthe USA?. No argument intended,I

really don't know.

[Xipe Totec]

9. 5 second google yielded...

http://www.allgodschildren.org/adoption/our-adoption-programs/domestic-adoption

[virgogal]

21. I still couldn't find any USA orphanages.

[seabeyond]

22. probably mostly foster system, dont you think? i dont know. i havent heard orphanag in forever. nt

[seabeyond]

23. this site seems to have them across the nation.

http://www.missionfinder.org/orphanages.htm#special

[virgogal]

27. Thanks a lot. Very informative----just what I needed.

[seabeyond]

29. you are welcome. nt

[seabeyond]

7. ya, well... living in a fundie environment, i will say there are a lot of fundies that adopt

on top of having their own kids. i do see this, in this area.

it is promoted in the churches here and supported. it was interesting to learn.

[Xipe Totec]

11. Until there are no more children waiting to be adopted...

They should focus on those that are here. It is their moral responsibility. EVERY SINGLE LIVING ORPHAN is their duty to adopt.

When there are no more orphans left, we can start talking about bringing a few more to full term.

[seabeyond]

14. yes. i cannot wait for them to start knockin on my door. i have things to say to them

i had the guy that won state senate try really really hard not to punch me in the nose, a couple years ago. his wife was very high pitched, lol. they were trying to get off my porch and i would not let them.

[Xipe Totec]

15. Good for you!

I would have loved to be there cheering you on!

[seabeyond]

19. it is a hoot. i will spend a half hour or more with these people. sit on the porch, and really,

have a seat. i have things to say.

religious or political.

[pnwmom]

10. There are many more would-be adoptive parents of newborns

than there are available babies.

The would-be parents wouldn't be sacrificing anything due to anti-abortion views -- they would be increasing their chances of adopting.

[Xipe Totec]

13. Start here.

http://www.allgodschildren.org/adoption/our-adoption-programs/domestic-adoption

[kestrel91316]

17. I'd expect that in Missouri. Because if she got pregnant from the act, they are lovers

and he is in no way a rapist.

Hell, they'd force her to marry him if they could. It's IN THE BIBLE.

[seabeyond]

20. sigh... lol

i am so pumpin hot blood mad. as i said in the posts above. i really cannot wait for these people to start knocking on my door.

[kestrel91316]

30. Well is it one of those states where if you say you felt threatened by them

you could, ahem, stand your ground??



Just sayin'.........

[seabeyond]

31. ha ha ha. that is funny. but,

I am a pacifist and don't know how to do a gun.

[kestrel91316]

32. (neither do I)

[Texasgal]

24. The thing that pisses me off the most

about this whole debacle IE: Akin. Is that when people talk about the children born of rape never seem to talk about the WOMAN that experienced the injustice!

ARGGGG!

[seabeyond]

25. i dont know. reading a woman that stuck up for the man, says that god choose to bless the woman

with a baby.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021174539

i dont know how they can totally separate and ignore the experience.

[notadmblnd]

26. I want to know who supports this rapist's baby?

The rapists while he is in jail? The government for forcing a woman to bring a child into the world? The rapist will have no means of payment while in prison. I think the government (specifically the republican congress) should support these children.

[seabeyond]

28. i think these questions need to be answered. nt

[ismnotwasm]

33. They do. Found this satire song on buzzfeed

“Legitimate Rape” Is The Feel Good, Anti-Akin Hit Of The Summer
It's a toe-tapping and informative ditty about what does and does not constitute rape!


http://www.buzzfeed.com/gavon/legitimate-rape-is-the-feel-good-anti-akin-hit

[ismnotwasm]

34. Cross post from GD; Raped, pregnant and ordeal not over

Raped, pregnant and ordeal not over
By Shauna Prewitt, Special to CNN


Chicago, Illinois (CNN) -- When I was in law school, my criminal law professor introduced us to the crime of rape by reading us a quote from Lord Chief Justice Sir Matthew Hale, a 17th-century English jurist: "In a rape case it is the victim, not the defendant, who is on trial."
It was not merely a history lesson. I had lived it.
While a student in my final year of college, at age 21, I was raped. I have dissected that moment -- the horrifying moment that I became a "victim" -- from every possible angle. I have poked and prodded, examined and re-examined. Regrettably, I have even suspected myself in a desperate, ultimately futile attempt to understand how I became a victim.
Then the kicker

It would not be long before I would learn firsthand that in the vast majority of states -- 31 -- men who father through rape are able to assert the same custody and visitation rights to their children that other fathers enjoy. When no law prohibits a rapist from exercising these rights, a woman may feel forced to bargain away her legal rights to a criminal trial in exchange for the rapist dropping the bid to have access to her child.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/22/opinion/prewitt-rapist-visitation-rights/index.html