History of Feminism
Related: About this forumWhere ‘Choice Feminism’ Has Got Us
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Choice feminism makes it clear that we missed other half of the story: feminism needs good race and class politics because without them it quickly ceases to exist. It gets reduced to the individual wishes of privileged women, and then, when some of those women decide that equality isnt really to their liking, feminism finds itself either without a raison detre or rendered equivalent to whatever self-deluded lifestyle choice an individual middle-class woman makes.
http://femsacrossthepond.wordpress.com/2009/04/25/where-choice-feminism-has-got-us/
WHY "CHOICE FEMINISM" IS AN ILLUSION
This got me thinking about the phenomenon of choice feminism, where women argue that even anti-feminist behaviors are feminist because feminism is about choice. If you choose to be on a Hot Chicks Tumblr -- or if you decide after the fact that, having been put on a Hot Chicks Tumblr without your knowledge, you will choose to be okay with it -- that means the Tumblr isnt misogynistic, because anything you as a woman choose to do is feminist. In fact, the real misogynist is the feminist whos trying to tell you that being a Hot Chick isnt okay.
Choice feminism gets one thing right: You should be able to make the choices that are right for you. And yes, of course that should include the choice to be ogled by strangers, or have your body used as a recruitment poster to bait guys into caring about important causes. Where choice feminism falls down, though, is in assuming that any of those things are actual choices right now.
Theyre not. Like the Hot Chicks founder (Im not giving him the Google hits), patriarchy just slaps your face up on a public site with a sign saying OGLE THIS. You can decide to be OK with it, or you can decide to raise a stink, but the options arent equal -- one of thems going to make for a much harder life, fielding a lot of hostility from people who think you shouldnt complain. And the option to just not be treated as public property in the first place? That ones not really live.
http://www.xojane.com/issues/choice-feminism-isn%27t-a-choice
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Denise Thompson wrote about the problem of individualism as a foundation for feminist action in her book Radical Feminism Today. She argues that if domination is desired, it cannot be challenged and opposed. So, for example, if sex worker is framed as an individual choice, the system of prostitution can be dissociated from the idea of systematic or gendered oppression. If prostitution is only a personal life choice, it need not have anything to do with patriarchy. It becomes a private issue rather than a public one. And yet, as we all know, private choices dont provide the basis for a movement. Viewing prostitution as a personal choice frames it as an empowerment exercise and, in so doing, erases the context of male domination and female exploitation in which it typically occurs.
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And yet, who am I to tell another woman that she isnt empowered or that she isnt really making her choices freely? As one of the founders of Slutwalk Toronto, who appeared in a debate to defend her reclamation of the word slut in 2010 said: For me to call myself whatever language I want if I find it empowering, for somebody else to say that thats not a right choice, when this is my choice, I find that problematic. If we consider the objections that have been heard by some women of coloursuch as a statement by Black Womens Blueprint that read, We do not have the privilege or the space to call ourselves slut without validating the already historically entrenched ideology and recurring messages about what and who the Black woman isthe idea of reclaiming the word slut under the guise of choice may not be so radical after all.
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Undeniably, choice is fundamental to feminism. But that does not mean that every choice we make is a feminist one. Choice, and the feminist context within which the slogan was born, has been de-politicized. Hey, were so free and empowered that we dont even need the feminist movement anymore! See how dangerously easy it is to manipulate this rhetoric into something that actually limits choice for women? I want real choices. I want to change the system within which those choices are made, not just use the language of choice to benefit or to comfort me. I want liberation from the forces that lead women into strip clubs, stilettos and Girls Gone Wild. I want collective empowerment, not temporary empowerment for only a few. I dont want fake choices designed by the very mechanisms that oppressed women in the first place.
http://www.herizons.ca/node/519
redqueen
(115,103 posts)It is SO not just middle class women who promote choice feminism.
Misses the mark by a mile and manages to be unnecessarily divisive while doing it.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)offered a different perspective.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)I love the second one, I've read that one before.
Dividing women by class is just wrong, full stop. It's counterproductive. There are women of every type who do things which aren't feminist.
It is important to make sure groups of women aren't being ignored by the movement. Singling out certain classes to blame for problems is a huge mistake.
Many evangelical women of lower income and women in poverty in religious cultures all over the world consider themselves as helpmates. This isn't a class thing, its a religious thing.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)that, too, is not part of feminism. that would be the point of what they are saying. the author is not talking a helpmate, or stay at home. she is talking about those that promote the patriarchy that man is the boss, per their religion. even though these women make their choices, the choice is not feminism.
it is like me being stay at home. it was argued that it is not feministic, regardless how we champion choice. though i made the right decision for me and my family, and though it has worked for us to our advantage, (i am now recognizing clear disadvantages that kinda bum me), it was not a feminist choice. it was an individual choice.
i can live with that.
as a stripper is making her choice, she can be ok with it, but know, it is not a feminist choice. it is her choice. and does not mean she advocates that job as empowering, but in other parts of her life she is very much a feminist.
that is how i see it.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)It is not having money so that one can stay home, or having a sexy body and an exhibitionist streak which allows one to capitalize on it that are the problems. The problem is the patriarchy.
The system which teaches us all these fucked up messages about sex and power is the problem, not individual women's circumstances or choices. Any time spent blurring that focus is wasted time at best, IMO.