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ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 09:20 PM Jan 2013

Two paragraphs from Man Cannot Speak for Her, Volume I, by K.K. Campbell.

Disclaimer: I typed this by hand, so mistakes or strange sentences are most likely my fault, as opposed to the author's fault.

I underlined the sentence that I personally found most interesting, and is my reason for posting.

Woman's rights agitation was in large measure a byproduct of women's efforts in other reform movements. Women seeking to end slavery, to attack the evils of alcohol abuse, and to improve the plight of prostitutes found themselves excluded from male reform organizations and attacked for involving themselves in concerns outside the home. A distinctive woman's rights movement began when women reformers recognized that they had to work for their own rights before they could be effective in other reform efforts.

Many early woman's rights advocates began as abolitionists, but because they were excluded from participation in the male anti-slavery societies, they formed female anti-slavery societies and ultimately, as chapter 2 describes, they began to press for their own rights in order to be more effective in the abolitionist struggle (Hersh 1978). Both Lucretia Coffin Mott and Elizabeth Cady Stanton dated the beginnings of the woman's rights movement from 1840, the year when five female delegates from U.S. anti-slavery societies, one of whom was Coffin Mott, were refused seating ath the World Anti-Slavery Convention in London. The outrage they felt at the debate that culminated in the denial of women's participation in the convention fueled their decision to call a woman's rights convention, a decision that eventuated in the Seneca Fall, New York, convention of 1848. Because the struggle to abolish slavery was so closely related to the earliest efforts for woman's rights, and because female abolitionists' speeches show them struggling to find ways to cope with proscriptions against speaking, the next chapter analyzes this connection. and the texts by abolitionist women are included in volume II.

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ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
2. I knew all the pieces, but underlined sentence really put it all together for me.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 09:30 PM
Jan 2013

Perhaps I was just being a bit slow.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
3. who knows what tidbit
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 09:31 PM
Jan 2013

we knew or not. or what is going to jolt us to higher insight.

there is so much i do not know. i was thrillled i knew this.

i think though this is the experience with women and why it is a womans movement looking to promote only womens interest. this has been from the beginning. with civil rights also

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
4. I am currently taking my third women's studies class this semester.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 09:39 PM
Jan 2013

I wish you were taking it with me. I could use an enthusiastic study partner.

Move to Montana real quick and sign up for the class!

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
11. montana is one of the states on my lists to go. lots of water for my hubby to fish.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 11:28 PM
Jan 2013

i should do that. i should take some classes just for fun. but, i do not do well with groups of people. kinda not social.

i would have never pictured you in that state.

colo, wy, mo, wa, or oregon for me.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
5. Since Men Were so Dismissive of Women Do You Think that Allowed Them...
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 09:48 PM
Jan 2013

to maybe be able to be more effective for a period because they could do things like help run the Underground Railroad right under the men's noses? The men assuming the delicate sensitivities of women wouldn't allow them to do such things?

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
7. That is a really interesting question. That very well could be the case.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 09:51 PM
Jan 2013

Underestimating people does cause some degree of blindness.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
9. I'm Reminded of the Pivotal Mini-Series Roots
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 09:56 PM
Jan 2013

And how Chicken George was really a very intelligent man but played the ignorant slave around the white masters by changing his grammar and his mannerisms. I think some appropriately crafty women could have done something similar.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
12. good point and i had thought that when i was young, learning this.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 11:30 PM
Jan 2013

even when they had evidence and women being "soft hearted" men really never caught onto it. that mystique, lol.

ismnotwasm

(41,989 posts)
6. Excellent
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 09:49 PM
Jan 2013

I hate it when I type out from off- line sources, but there's much to share so sometimes i do it anyway and I thank you for the effort.

Pretty cool stand out sentence

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