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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:40 AM Jun 2013

Hacker Who Exposed Steubenville Rape Case Could Spend More Time Behind Bars Than The Rapists

As Mother Jones reports, 26-year-old Deric Lostutter — who has been known as “KYAnonymous” throughout his role in the Steubenville rape case — could face up to 10 years of jail time if he’s convicted of hacking-related crimes. The FBI raided Losuetter’s home in April. The internet hacker told Mother Jones that he believes the FBI investigation was motivated by Stebenville officials who want to send Lostutter a clear message: You shouldn’t have gotten involved.

“They want to make an example of me, saying, ‘You don’t fucking come after us. Don’t question us,’ ” Lostutter explained. Those type of power dynamics played out over the course of the sexual assault trial in the tiny Ohio town, where many leaders in the community — like the high school football coach — played some role in covering up the rapists’ crimes because that was easier than disrupting the status quo.


http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/06/07/2119171/anonymous-hacker-steubenville-jail/


The two indicted teens (only two... just two out of close to a dozen participants) will spend no more than two years each for assault and rape.
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Hacker Who Exposed Steubenville Rape Case Could Spend More Time Behind Bars Than The Rapists (Original Post) LanternWaste Jun 2013 OP
I posted that in GD and it sank like a stone ismnotwasm Jun 2013 #1
If I'd seen it, I would have kicked it rather than reposting. LanternWaste Jun 2013 #2
I have perfect bad timing to post anything in GD ismnotwasm Jun 2013 #8
I just looked for it someone else had posted it as well. One reply. ismnotwasm Jun 2013 #18
K&R.... daleanime Jun 2013 #14
GD dothemath Jun 2013 #19
General Discussion (n/t) Amaril Jun 2013 #23
Kick and rec riqster Jun 2013 #3
It really feels like rape is almost legal gollygee Jun 2013 #4
That's the point of rape culture. redqueen Jun 2013 #5
Even brutal stranger rapes aren't clearly illegal gollygee Jun 2013 #6
K & R. historylovr Jun 2013 #7
K&R n/t proReality Jun 2013 #9
Typical of our authoritarian state. blackspade Jun 2013 #10
And you get a harsher punishment for violating property than you do for violating people. baldguy Jun 2013 #12
True, unless your part of the 1% blackspade Jun 2013 #22
Thanks for posting this. nt pnwmom Jun 2013 #11
I think I finally understand the meaning of JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #13
This is what happens when you rile the PTB siligut Jun 2013 #15
K&R MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #16
More details in the Mother Jones Article, including the following statement: happyslug Jun 2013 #17
I read it more as a 'compare and contrast' of two different illegal actions, and two different sente LanternWaste Jun 2013 #20
Mission Accomplished WovenGems Jun 2013 #24
I see nothing in either of the articles that indicates what he is actually charged with. blackspade Jun 2013 #25
Thanks for the link SouthernLiberal Jun 2013 #21
Thanks for the heads up! rdharma Jun 2013 #26
Typical. Justice is hard to come by in the land of the free and the home of the brave. Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2013 #27
the news of the guy acquitted from shooting and killing a woman for not having sex with him JI7 Jun 2013 #28
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
2. If I'd seen it, I would have kicked it rather than reposting.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:57 AM
Jun 2013

If I'd seen it, I would have kicked it rather than reposting. But I'm beginning to think that most likely, it still would have sunk like a stone there.

ismnotwasm

(41,991 posts)
8. I have perfect bad timing to post anything in GD
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 12:27 PM
Jun 2013

I still try from time to time, I think had someone more known posted it it would have gotten more attention

Thank you for posting it here, this is where I post things usually.

ismnotwasm

(41,991 posts)
18. I just looked for it someone else had posted it as well. One reply.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 01:57 PM
Jun 2013

*sigh*

Edit: and another with 6 replies. 30 recs though I'm gong to kick that one

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
4. It really feels like rape is almost legal
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 12:12 PM
Jun 2013

Not quite legal, but on the edge. Other stuff that is clearly illegal to The Powers That Be is of course treated more seriously.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
5. That's the point of rape culture.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 12:19 PM
Jun 2013

Normalize it. Rationalize it. Push the idea that only the brutal stranger rapes are 'really' rapes, and girls who are raped by friends and acquaintances are stupid drunk s**** who 'asked for it'.

Keeps victims from reporting and ensures rapists know they're at low risk of being held accountable for their crimes.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
6. Even brutal stranger rapes aren't clearly illegal
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 12:20 PM
Jun 2013

Depending on what she was wearing, where she was walking, whether she'd been drinking or doing drugs, what she did for a living (ie if she was in the sex trade), etc.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
10. Typical of our authoritarian state.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 12:58 PM
Jun 2013

Those that shine the light on the cockroaches of the world end up in more trouble that the criminals.

The irony....it burns.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
12. And you get a harsher punishment for violating property than you do for violating people.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 01:09 PM
Jun 2013

Is it fascism yet?

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
13. I think I finally understand the meaning of
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 01:17 PM
Jun 2013

"I saw red."

Do victims of assault have any value at all? Do women have value? Do people who champion bringing criminals to justice have any value?

Because when I read this - I see that it is "far worse" to aid in bringing people to justice than it is to commit the crime in the first place.


And people say I'm 'angry'. I am. I'm really really angry reading this.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
17. More details in the Mother Jones Article, including the following statement:
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 01:49 PM
Jun 2013
He'd read about the Steubenville rape in the New York Times, but didn't get involved until receiving a message on Twitter from Michelle McKee, a friend of an Ohio blogger who'd written about the case. McKee gave Lostutter the players' tweets and Instagram photos, which he then decided to publicize because, as he put it, "I was always raised to stick up for people who are getting bullied."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/06/kyanonymous-fbi-steubenville-raid-anonymous

In simple terms, he had NOTHING to do with the underlying criminal case, but only that it reached a National Audience. By the time he was involved the Local DA had recused herself (due to her son being from the same school and knowing the parties AND may have known something about the incident). She was replaced by the Attorney General of Ohio. I see NOTHING he did that actually brought this case out in the open (Since we are dealing with Juveniles, most hearings are closed to the Public. TO PROTECT THE JUVENILES INCLUDING THE VICTIM).

He claims, that due to his reporting of the event and the videos, he forced the local police and District Attorney to do something. He MAY have been a factor, but so far I have NOT seen any evidence of that.

On the other hand, he was a big part of making this a NATIONAL issue. That no one disputes. The real issue is what he did do have ANY effect on the issue of the charges made? I do NOT see any evidence of that (nor evidence AGAINST what he did having been a factor in the Charges being made).

I hate to say this, sounds like a hacker trying to justify what he illegal did because he was partial involved a hot news items, such as the Steubenville Rapes. You can NOT break the Law to enforce it. The Police are always being "Corrected" on this issue by the courts (The Exclusionary rule for example is simply that Police can NOT use evidence of a crime, if such evidence was itself only in the hands of the Police do to the illegal acts of the Police). If that is the case, here, he BROKE THE LAW believing he was EXPOSING POLICE INACTION (I prefer that word to corruption, for corruption implies he believed the Police were NOT doing an investigation do to taking bribes as oppose to what happens most of the time, the Police just put a low priority on the rapes and thus we have police inaction in such investigations).
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
20. I read it more as a 'compare and contrast' of two different illegal actions, and two different sente
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 01:58 PM
Jun 2013

"I hate to say this, sounds like a hacker trying to justify what he illegal did..."

I read it more as a 'compare and contrast' of two different illegal actions, and two different sentencing guidelines. What precisely did he say that leads you to believe he's attempting to justify his actions?

WovenGems

(776 posts)
24. Mission Accomplished
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:38 PM
Jun 2013

As a hacker you are looking for secrets. He found a doozy. Please put me on the jury so as I may demonstrate what jury nullification is.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
25. I see nothing in either of the articles that indicates what he is actually charged with.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:50 PM
Jun 2013

Both articles indicate that he publicized tweets that were sent to him, and that he was not part of the hack into the stupidville football team's website.

What exactly did he do that was illegal? And how is it worse that what the two convicted rapist and their unindited conspirators did?

SouthernLiberal

(407 posts)
21. Thanks for the link
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:01 PM
Jun 2013

I had seen this story before, but not with the link to thinkprogress (and not on DU). I read the article and went right to donate to Lostutter's defense. Personally, I think every woman in America, and every man who cares for a woman or girl should donate.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
26. Thanks for the heads up!
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:56 PM
Jun 2013

I wasn't aware that the whistle blower was arrested! Deric Lostutter is a true HERO!

JI7

(89,252 posts)
28. the news of the guy acquitted from shooting and killing a woman for not having sex with him
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 01:02 AM
Jun 2013

and this news. this is usually the type of stuff you would expect in other parts of the world which are considered backwards and lacking freedoms. and we say we are better than that.

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