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ismnotwasm

(41,989 posts)
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 03:47 PM Dec 2013

Why Guys Really Hate Being Called 'Creepy'

Let's review, shall we?



The newest cause célèbre for men's right activists (MRAs) has nothing to do with divorce law, "false rape allegations", or the dangers of "sperm-stealing" feminists. It's about the C-word. No, not the ladybusiness one. We're talking about "creep."

As Jessica Wakeman discovered last week when she wrote about a first date gone wrong, the MRAs are up in arms about "creep-shaming." "The ability to label men as ‘creepy' is just one privilege that women enjoy, and a constant source of fear of ostracizing that all men must fear in our society," says one apparently anguished man on Reddit. Creep is "the worst casual insult that can be tossed at a guy" claims Jeremy Paul Gordon at the Hairpin. "Douchebag," "asshole," and "pussy" can't compare, Gordon insists, largely because the charge of "creep" is so much more difficult to disprove. These guys argue that "creep" has a greater power to wound than any other word, and yet it's tossed around with cavalier impunity by cruel women who ought to know better. Thus the campaign (particularly big on Tumblr, apparently) to bring awareness to the ongoing tragedy of creep-shaming.

The word creep has a long history, first as a verb and only much later as a noun. Dickens gets credit for first using "the creeps" in its modern sense in 1849, but the use of the word to refer to someone disgusting or frightening is, surprisingly, less than 100 years old. (Interestingly, while the term "creeper" today is a hipper synonym for a creepy person, its use as a noun is actually much older, dating to the 17th century, when it referred to a stealthy thief.) As an adjective, it shows up regularly in headlines here on Jezebel, most recently in coverage of the dating-spreadsheet finance guy.

Wakeman isn't the only female writer to wrestle with the politics of creep-shaming. Clarisse Thorn has suggested that the use of the word "demonizes men who are honest about their sexual needs," while Amanda Marcotte argues that "creepy" is a "useful, commonly understood term for a set of behaviors that absolutely are a problem." At the Good Men Project, Lu Fong noted that while in her mind, "the weight of the word was never heavier than any other insult I'd shoot back at the boys," she accepted that men found it exponentially more hurtful.

http://jezebel.com/5903883/why-guys-really-hate-being-called-creepy
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Why Guys Really Hate Being Called 'Creepy' (Original Post) ismnotwasm Dec 2013 OP
I love exercising my privilege* by using that word on men who really really deserve it. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #1
They really hate it ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #3
Stop constantly trying to force us to have sex.. seattledo Dec 2013 #2
They didn't like the term male gaze BainsBane Dec 2013 #4
true... male gaze was just as offensive. They want us to have no words to use to describe their boston bean Dec 2013 #5
Because it hits them where it hurts: geek tragedy Dec 2013 #6
wait wut! mercuryblues Dec 2013 #7

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
1. I love exercising my privilege* by using that word on men who really really deserve it.
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 04:01 PM
Dec 2013

Because it mortifies them. And they need that.

* I could barely type 'exercising my privilege' and keep a straight face. bwahahahaha!

ismnotwasm

(41,989 posts)
3. They really hate it
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 04:09 PM
Dec 2013

I mean the regular guys don't give a shit, but some of our--friends--are actually offended.

You know I love science and this is actually kinda--apropos


Creep (deformation)

In materials science, creep (sometimes called cold flow) is the tendency of a solid material to move slowly or deform permanently under the influence of mechanical stresses. It can occur as a result of long-term exposure to high levels of stress that are still below the yield strength of the material. Creep is more severe in materials that are subjected to heat for long periods, and generally increases as they near their melting point. Creep always increases with temperature.

The rate of deformation is a function of the material properties, exposure time, exposure temperature and the applied structural load. Depending on the magnitude of the applied stress and its duration, the deformation may become so large that a component can no longer perform its function — for example creep of a turbine blade will cause the blade to contact the casing, resulting in the failure of the blade. Creep is usually of concern to engineers and metallurgists when evaluating components that operate under high stresses or high temperatures. Creep is a deformation mechanism that may or may not constitute a failure mode. For example, moderate creep in concrete is sometimes welcomed because it relieves tensile stresses that might otherwise lead to cracking.

Unlike brittle fracture, creep deformation does not occur suddenly upon the application of stress. Instead, strain accumulates as a result of long-term stress. Therefore, creep is a "time-dependent" deformation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creep_(deformation)

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
5. true... male gaze was just as offensive. They want us to have no words to use to describe their
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 04:50 PM
Dec 2013

actions and more importantly how we feel.

Pretty familiar... they just want/wish us to shut up, and that's the bottom line.

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
7. wait wut!
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 10:11 PM
Dec 2013

Creeps can't be called creeps, because it is offensive to them. But they can call a woman every name in the book and expect to cheer?

I ain't go no time for that.

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