Hey did you know the voting debacle is somehow the fault of women? (Sarcasm alert)

[ismnotwasm]

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The things I learn on DU.

[JDDavis]

1. Can you proofread your question?

I don't think I understand, nor do I understand the context.

Is there a link?

[ismnotwasm]

5. None that I would link to

Sorry.

[theHandpuppet]

11. I know of at least one to which you are probably referring

Fascinating, indeed.

The problem seems to be that the country is woefully underserving men & boys.

Uh yep.

[seabeyond]

2. certainly no more than the fault of all others that did not go vote.

but ya, the women did not go out as strongly as the past. nor other groups, that the men that run the party, depend on. ya know.

i gottta say though. i am not opposed to saying women did not go out like they needed to, nor millenniums, and other dems.

[ismnotwasm]

8. Anyone

Male or female who didn't participate owns a little of this-- and I don't mind saying either

[seabeyond]

9. yes. and it is as dire for anyone, men included, cause the repugs have stripped us down

to the bare minimum and none of us can afford this, in day to day living.

[Phlem]

3. It's always going to be something else or someone else to blame.

Except for the actual politicians we're voting for.

[seabeyond]

4. i certainly have my issues with the dems. we are not getting all things. as a woman, dems hands down

represent me compared to the repugs. not even close. not... both the smae, because they are not even close to being the same.

no. i do not get all i want.

and damn straight i am going out and voting because there is enough to require i go out and vote.

[ismnotwasm]

12. We're at the finger pointing stage

I think we'll ultimately be ok-- the republicans will do what they've alway done-- block progress(not that that is 'ok') but with more clout. The dens are now gong to block the asinine shit the repute are going to try, and if it gets really bad, I hope Obama has his veto pen ready

[F4lconF16]

15. That's my biggest worry for the next two years.

Republicans have effectively controlled Congress despite not having majorities. Now that they do, I think they will try a lot. Given Obama's previous attitudes towards bipartisanship, I'm worried he may not veto everything he should in the interest of looking like he's working with them.

Not to mention, I have a bad feeling that on the state level in conservative controlled areas, things are about to get much worse. Voter suppression will hit us hard in 2016 unless we start changing that, and now. Abortion blocking bills are probably going to continue unabated. Already discriminated against groups are going to have an unpleasant ride before we can take back the legislatures.

[mercuryblues]

6. No it couldn't

be because of the lackluster candidates or poor organization and performance from the top. Combine that with the voter ID laws and other voter suppression methods that the Dems barely objected to and you would think the Dems wanted to lose.

This way when shitty bills are put forward the Dems can say well we made them less shitty so we're the good guys here.

[ismnotwasm]

7. +1

[seabeyond]

10. absolutley the voter laws had an huge effect. as huge an effect was the fact obama is black,

and they really hate that..... right.

it all counts. but. the interesting i think is how colorado swept repug, after pot laws and the fear. and oregon went totally liberal. with pot law to be voted on.

i have been watching the three states, cause i am interested in moving to all three.

colorado and wa were going more progressive than oregon. but, we liked oregon the best. oregon got a little closer to the two states.

[ismnotwasm]

13. Yup

And we knew this going in. The whole thing is disgusting

[F4lconF16]

14. While I love being in Seattle right now

I will probably always consider myself an Oregonian at heart. It's a wonderful state. I think people (at least in the western side) are fairly liberal, and then of course there's Portland. It's a good place. Our election went well this year, and I'm proud to say I got to vote for the first time for all of what we managed to pass.

I saw the comments blaming minorities. It's ridiculous. One poster managed to specifically call out blacks, hispanics, women, and youth all in one post. Of course, voter suppression had nothing to do with it. Democrats without identifiable policy stances (and certainly no spine) had nothing to do with it either. Because when in doubt, blame the minorities. It's worked rather well for the conservatives.

[ismnotwasm]

16. That one poster had considerable blaming talent

I'm a Seattle girl through and through

[F4lconF16]

17. I love Seattle but it's too urban for me.

I'm lucky that I have the UW campus and Lake Washington nearby to go to, not to mention Ravenna and Greenlake and the Burke-Gilman trail. I probably spend too much time outdoors, but eh. I like it. I'd live in the woods if I could

[ismnotwasm]

18. Yeah

One good thing is it's ever too far from rural in any direction. My oldest daughter is looking at buying a little bit of acreage in Darrington. Lives just past Gold Bar right now

[F4lconF16]

19. That's true.

Hey, you wouldn't happen to know any good areas to go camping or backpacking around here, would you? I was just discussing this last night with a friend. I haven't looked online yet, but I always prefer local recommendations for the good spots.

[ismnotwasm]

20. Actually there's a easy hike out by Gold bar called Wallace trails-- fun one

There are so many, I'll just post this. You go out further and there's even more. Almost to mant to count Weather is changing fast though. It's almost skiing season. ( I don't ski, but have lot of friends that do)


http://www.everytrail.com/best/hiking-seattle-washington

[F4lconF16]

21. Perfect. Exactly what I was looking for.

As for the weather, camping in the cold and rain in the PacNW is one of my favorite things. If you prepare properly, it's a blast. (Key word: if). Yeah I wonder what the snowfall is like right now. I'm hopefully going to be working as a ski instructor this year.

[seabeyond]

23. i want to do this. that sounds great, as long as one can stay warm.

i would not have thought of that. i am doing bucket lists.

luvs you guys, and luvs the info.

[F4lconF16]

24. If you have an all season tent it makes it easier.

I don't, but I do have a 6 man tent perfect for me and two friends. Put a tarp on the bottom and a tarp hung properly over the top, and very little water will get near the tent, giving you a warm and dry place if needed. Thermal underwear and a water proof outer layer is all you really need to stay warm for the most part, and you can add layers as necessary.

Those two things and that's 90% of the battle. The last 10% is learning to enjoy being wet and cold when all the previous stuff doesn't work

Rainy days and snow camping are probably on my top 10 things I love doing. It can be an incredibly peaceful and enlightening experience, sitting on a rock near your camp, listening to the rain and wind and river. If you're lucky, you can get a fire started (under a tarp haha) and then there's the warmth of the fire on your back and the gentle snapping of flames. It's beautiful in ways I can't begin to describe.

[ismnotwasm]

28. I have a very good friend who is a ski instructor

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Be funny if you two met-- she and her husband are out at Snoqualmie every winter

[seabeyond]

22. i do not want too much traffic of big city either.

when we start seriously looking, i might hit you up on info.

right now, for that part of washing, i am looking at and am most comfortable with the olympia area

[F4lconF16]

25. I grew up in Hillsboro, about 20 minutes west of Portland.

The schools are pretty good, and I think it's a goid community. Admittedly the traffic has been getting worse and worse (more in the eastern part towards Portland and Beaverton), and I think the backups on 26 going into Portland are terrible. But even so, if you don't like that, going a little further west you lose all the traffic, and the forestland is nice.

I do like the Olympia area. Really, most places in the PacNW are better than almost anywhere else in the US, in my opinion. There's a spot for almost anyone.

[DonCoquixote]

27. are you talking about THIS?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5761194

or this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5761589

both example of the excrement we have come to expect from a certain group that hangs out at a site that rhymes with "percussionist."

[ismnotwasm]

29. Yup

That would be it

[seabeyond]

33. i didnt know what you all were talking about. never saw those Ops

i am not much into the whining part of a loss. i havent been reading a lot of OP. but, would read either of those, cause i have no interest how they feel about women.

sorry i did not catch on. i thought it was just a general, over all blame on the women and millennium, not an all out mra rant.

[theHandpuppet]

54. Oh, I thought you were talking about this one.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025775379

[BainsBane]

30. Yes, if only we were more like the GOP

and focused entirely on the interests of white men of means, all would be right in the world. Then of course, as one of the usual suspects insists, women wield all the political power because more of us vote. The fact that men actually hold positions of power is irrelevant. The problem is women vote, and that is responsible for the downfall of humanity, particularly the votes of single women. In the other words, the problem is those of us who actually vote for Democrats.

[ismnotwasm]

31. Succinct and correct as usual

[uppityperson]

36. huh, 2-fer sign up?

[uppityperson]

39. you don't understand that freedom of speech thing either? doesn't surprise me.

private forum can and does have its own rules. bye, get a new hobby.

[uppityperson]

42. Understand this

Don't be a wingnut (right-wing or extreme-fringe).
Democratic Underground is an online community for politically liberal people who understand the importance of working within the system to elect more Democrats and fewer Republicans to all levels of political office. Teabaggers, Neo-cons, Dittoheads, Paulites, Freepers, Birthers, and right-wingers in general are not welcome here. Neither are certain extreme-fringe left-wingers, including advocates of violent political/social change, hard-line communists, terrorist-apologists, America-haters, kooks, crackpots, LaRouchies, and the like.

[seabeyond]

43. you are sending the women away, lol? and this works for you? omg, you have my son and i bustin up

laughing

[BainsBane]

45. Where are we going?

I'm up for a vacation. I didn't see the post, but sadly I suspect that isn't what he had in mind.

[seabeyond]

52. We are all being sent to Africa. Blacks, women and I suppose gays.

Not sure how these white dudes are gonna make it once they send all us women to Africa, you know, cause they are so damn awesome smart and all. Lol

[BainsBane]

44. I missed all the fun again

[uppityperson]

46. He'll be back, unfortunately. Standard racist sexist bs.

He needs a new hobby. I can not imagine what satisfaction he gets from going through all the work of signing up, posting, to have the posts go poof. Dude needs a new hobby.

[ismnotwasm]

50. It's that racist sexist moron again

He comes here often-- unfortunately--I don't know he thinks he needs the practice to sound stupid

[seabeyond]

53. I miss them mostly to. This was a rare treat to see the actual stupid.

Though I see I missed his two replies to me. Darn. Lol.

[seabeyond]

41. lol. and how about those mama raising those white boys. our presence is not required? what a fuckin'

hoot. go to your room, little boy until you learn how to behave

[seabeyond]

32. discussionist? why yes! see, i did not read those two OPs cause i have no interest in reading

how certain men feel about women, ad nauseoum.

[DonCoquixote]

34. understood,however

the reason I fished these two ops out is because, as you know, when the MRAS get called out on their bs, they say "WHERE DID YOU READ THIS?" with all the fury of some Witchfinder General. Of course, they do so knowing full well that to call them out by name is a Tos violation, where they will alert. However, this op gave me an opprtinity tosimple present that these ops were and example of what this lady was saying, so that when the mras said "where did you see us doing that" she could simply show them, in which case, the mras have nothing better to do but growl.

[seabeyond]

38. i agree. i appreciate you putting those up. i was clueless what some of the women

were talking about. i guess fear of a hide and call out, which is not against the rules when discussing an issue.

thanks

agree

[ismnotwasm]

48. I appreciate it

[DonCoquixote]

56. no problem

especially as I see someone hid behind auto remove. It is one thing to be an agressive creep when you are dbetaing, it is another to keep insisiting you never attacked, and wait until the fly is in your web. I know said idiots will be back, so go ahead and throw quotes at them.

[Scootaloo]

51. It's everyone's fault except white middle-aged conservative men.

Which is really typical of every problem, to hear white middle-aged conservative men tel lyou about it.

[DonCoquixote]

55. message auto removed

That either means someone realized they were an idiot or
They will be going to that other site to plan an attack.