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History has been made (Original Post) boston bean Apr 2016 OP
It's about damn time!... dubyadiprecession Apr 2016 #1
And as we've heard, she'll "work hard for the money"... canoeist52 Apr 2016 #2
More profitable to work for money rather than for working people. n/t jtuck004 Apr 2016 #3
Yeah! Hillary because... woman, Yeah! Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #4
Go find somewhere else to post your sexist crap please. JTFrog Apr 2016 #15
if only she ran a campaign more strongly by the issues retrowire Apr 2016 #5
Another jerk here to tell us that considering more women to higher positions is pandering. JTFrog Apr 2016 #14
oh this is your turf? retrowire Apr 2016 #27
You are wrong ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #28
argentina beat us to that first woman president thing retrowire Apr 2016 #31
*sigh* ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #35
Right? JTFrog Apr 2016 #36
Great post and great BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #6
Great post, boston bean! brer cat Apr 2016 #7
Posts like this pretend that there are no women like Coulter and Thatcher fasttense Apr 2016 #8
What do any of those women brer cat Apr 2016 #9
You are celebrating a woman because she is a woman NOT because she is liberal or anything. n/t fasttense Apr 2016 #16
I am celebrating that the most brer cat Apr 2016 #17
There was nothing about qualifications in the original post.n/t fasttense Apr 2016 #20
There was no need to. brer cat Apr 2016 #22
Posts like yours demonstrate that you seem to think La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #10
Of course you can tell the difference but you are NOT celebrating the difference in this post. fasttense Apr 2016 #18
LOL. just because you are confused about why this historic moment is being celebrated La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #21
I'm sorry I thought this was a discussion forum and not a mud slinging contest. fasttense Apr 2016 #23
lol. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #25
Rarely is the need to reiterate or restate an obvious. LanternWaste Apr 2016 #26
This is a safe haven group for feminists and like minded individuals, not for disruptive jerks JTFrog Apr 2016 #32
Yeah, you want a list of all the bad men this world has ever known? JTFrog Apr 2016 #13
But this post is NOT celebrating that a man is on the verge of becoming president. fasttense Apr 2016 #19
And here you are UtahLib Apr 2016 #29
This is a safe haven for feminists... PassingFair May 2016 #42
Really? JTFrog May 2016 #43
I'm not defending "that guy" or anyone else. PassingFair May 2016 #44
I'm not trying to run you out at all. JTFrog May 2016 #45
The primaries are not over yet. PassingFair May 2016 #46
Count me in on this. ScreamingMeemie May 2016 #47
Then don't celebrate. JTFrog Apr 2016 #33
seem to not want to mercuryblues May 2016 #40
I'm celebrating with my fellow Democrats and everyone UtahLib Apr 2016 #11
Hey jerks, this is a feminist group, not GDP where you can display your disgusting JTFrog Apr 2016 #12
We can hope. brer cat Apr 2016 #24
Right? ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #30
Though I support Sanders awoke_in_2003 Apr 2016 #37
Thank you. n/t JTFrog Apr 2016 #38
I'm With Her. oasis Apr 2016 #34
Dropping in to say I agree 100%. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #39
I feel confident that Hillary is going to win in a landslide. Francis Booth May 2016 #41

dubyadiprecession

(5,714 posts)
1. It's about damn time!...
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 06:57 AM
Apr 2016

America is moving forward. Britain, canada, and germany have already elected their first female leaders. All of the barriers are being busted now.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
15. Go find somewhere else to post your sexist crap please.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:52 AM
Apr 2016

This is a feminist group which is a safe haven for women and feminists.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
5. if only she ran a campaign more strongly by the issues
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:49 AM
Apr 2016

Rather than her gender, thus weakening feminism for all.

But alas, she'll be a shining example that using your gender to get ahead rather than your qualities is a "good" example of feminism.

"Half my cabinet will be female!"

Doesn't matter, can you have a cabinet that does the right thing regardless of gender? Oh wait, you're just pandering. Oh well.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
14. Another jerk here to tell us that considering more women to higher positions is pandering.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:49 AM
Apr 2016

You have a giant playground out there to drop a turd, why choose to post this insulting bullshit in a safe haven feminist group? Just wanted us to be aware of your hatred? Ok, thanks we are aware. Maybe you and the others invading our space would consider deleting and moving on to somewhere else.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
27. oh this is your turf?
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:38 PM
Apr 2016

This feminist disagrees.

Sorry, Hillary's actions are not emblematic to feminism, nor is she an ambassador to the idea.

No hatred in pointing out Hillary's actions.

ismnotwasm

(41,989 posts)
28. You are wrong
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:53 PM
Apr 2016

Both in the actions of and symbolism of Hillary Clinton, this is an incredible powerful and pivotal moment in history. Republicans have let history pass them by. Democrats go forward into it, go with it, MAKE it.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
31. argentina beat us to that first woman president thing
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 03:34 PM
Apr 2016

Sorry.

Sure it's monumental. First American woman president.

But history is going to show that our possible first woman president lied about her opponent and accepted voter suppression to win it. She talked down to BLM and shouted down Greenpeace.

Not totally awesome. It's good because yay first woman, but at what cost?

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
36. Right?
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 06:26 PM
Apr 2016

Weakest argument they've thrown out there yet.

In another thread someone else used the same line that we shouldn't give a shit about electing the first female president here since it's been done elsewhere in the world. And then tried to make comparisons with some of the most fucked up right wing women out there, like we don't know the fucking difference. I bet they would love it if the GOP used that argument against implementing universal healthcare? Meh, who gives a fuck, they already did that elsewhere in the world, amirite?

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
8. Posts like this pretend that there are no women like Coulter and Thatcher
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:06 AM
Apr 2016

If Maggie Thatcher was about to win would DU be posting yeah women?

What about Palin and Bachman?

brer cat

(24,574 posts)
9. What do any of those women
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:08 AM
Apr 2016

have to do with a democratic woman being celebrated on a democratic site? This isn't FR you know.

brer cat

(24,574 posts)
17. I am celebrating that the most
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:43 AM
Apr 2016

qualified candidate is near winning the nomination. That she is a woman adds icing on the cake.

brer cat

(24,574 posts)
22. There was no need to.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:56 AM
Apr 2016

Those of us who post here regularly know Boston Bean and what she is talking about. Since you apparently just discovered this forum today and are not a member, I suggest you stop quibbling over nonsense and let the adults have their conversation.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
10. Posts like yours demonstrate that you seem to think
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:16 AM
Apr 2016

We can't tell the difference between coulter and Hillary, when the reality is that we can and its your hatred that blinds you to celebrate this historic moment for the county

Were you confused about the difference between Obama and Clarence Thomas too?

You people need to get over yourselves

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
18. Of course you can tell the difference but you are NOT celebrating the difference in this post.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:44 AM
Apr 2016

You are merely celebrating she is a woman, not that she is liberal or anything.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
21. LOL. just because you are confused about why this historic moment is being celebrated
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:51 AM
Apr 2016

doesn't mean the rest of us are.

it's not like feminist on DU were celebrating Palin. We know exactly why we are celebrating. pity that you don't recognize it and cannot participate in this celebration. really sucks to be you.

the rest of us though, and excited for Hillary Clinton, and yes in part for her gender because actual representation matters. The fact that she is a Democrat and a liberal are a given for DU. Only the deliberately obtuse would deny that.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
23. I'm sorry I thought this was a discussion forum and not a mud slinging contest.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:58 AM
Apr 2016

The original post said NOTHING about her being liberal. Probably because we all know Hillary is no more liberal than Obama is.

But Yeah, we have a woman on the verge of taking over the president's job. Yeah, Rah-Rah.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
25. lol.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 12:02 PM
Apr 2016

yeah she is just as liberal as Obama and that is liberal enough for most people and most Democrats.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
26. Rarely is the need to reiterate or restate an obvious.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 12:38 PM
Apr 2016

"The original post said NOTHING about her being liberal..."

Rarely is the need to reiterate or restate an obvious-- except for the benefit of those who will refuse it regardless.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
32. This is a safe haven group for feminists and like minded individuals, not for disruptive jerks
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 04:06 PM
Apr 2016

who think they can shower us with their special brand of criticism. Imagine that, a feminist group that is excited about having a woman on the verge of becoming president. How dare we celebrate such a thing in a group dedicated to fighting the patriarchy.

Funny you should come in here slinging mud everywhere and then complain that it's not a contest. You got 100 other forums you can go stink up, so why don't you just show yourself out.


 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
13. Yeah, you want a list of all the bad men this world has ever known?
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:44 AM
Apr 2016

Your argument is a fucking joke and you know it.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
19. But this post is NOT celebrating that a man is on the verge of becoming president.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:46 AM
Apr 2016

It is celebrating that a woman is on the verge of becoming president. I would rather celebrate that she were a liberal woman.

UtahLib

(3,179 posts)
29. And here you are
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 03:06 PM
Apr 2016

stepping into another supposed safe haven group and deliberately ignoring the SOP in hopes of being banned and then running to ATA and whining about being banned for "simply attempting to have a discussion". Your agenda is not nearly as subtle as you seem to believe.

PassingFair

(22,434 posts)
42. This is a safe haven for feminists...
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:49 PM
May 2016

not a safe haven for Hillary supporters.

There's already a room for them.

I am a feminist who supports Bernie Sanders.

I don't dislike Hillary because she is a woman.

I dislike her for her lying and her lust for war.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
43. Really?
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:43 PM
May 2016

You just dropped in to defend that poster who compared Hillary to some right wing assholes? The OP was celebrating an historic achievement for women in making it as far as she has. It's not celebrating men because they have always been in control. How does supporting Hillary or Bernie change that? And why do you think it's ok that he dropped in here and dropped that turd in the middle of this group?

Please explain why you think that was ok. You could have just ignored this thread if you don't believe feminists should be celebrating progress. I get that you don't like Hillary. I know you are a feminist. I don't know why you chose to defend that guy or make negative comments about celebrating an historic moment.

PassingFair

(22,434 posts)
44. I'm not defending "that guy" or anyone else.
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:23 PM
May 2016

As a Bernie Sanders supporter, I feel run out of this group.

It does not surprise me, as I saw early signs of this bullying behavior.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
45. I'm not trying to run you out at all.
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:57 PM
May 2016

I just thought that it would be nice if people could respect that it's a feminist group and that we are celebrating a special moment in women's history. It shouldn't matter who anyone supports. It's still historical for women. And this group is History of Feminism. It makes sense that we would discuss this.

And I know you know that this group has never really tolerated people like that guy jumping in and making his nasty comments.

I'm sorry if I came off harsh. I know you helped make this group. I was just taken aback by some posts in this thread.

PassingFair

(22,434 posts)
46. The primaries are not over yet.
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:24 AM
May 2016

I will jump on the bandwagon when my train runs out of steam, though
I do not look forward to being an apologist for Hillary, and it's unrealistic to think
that every feminist is happy about Hillary.

Just saying....

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
33. Then don't celebrate.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 04:11 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary will be the first progressive liberal American woman to become President. Deal with it or don't, but please don't spread your noise in our group.

Thanks in advance.

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
40. seem to not want to
Sun May 1, 2016, 04:34 PM
May 2016

acknowledge a few things.

1/ This is a group and not a forum. IOW read the SOP.

2/ this is a group for feminists. IOW We get to celebrate women who have changed history, but also make history.


3/ Seeing as this is a group for feminists, we don't particularly fucking care what YOU think we should be celebrating


UtahLib

(3,179 posts)
11. I'm celebrating with my fellow Democrats and everyone
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:31 AM
Apr 2016

bright enough to recognize the fact that Hillary is the only qualified candidate. That she is a woman who has the resume of lifelong dedication to service is icing on the cake.

Sorry, Boston, that there are those on this Democratic site who simply cannot resist dumping on a positive thread in what is supposed to be a safe haven for feminists. Their lack of self restraint in their single minded effort to demonize Hillary says everything we need to know about them.

GO HILLARY!!!

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
12. Hey jerks, this is a feminist group, not GDP where you can display your disgusting
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:36 AM
Apr 2016

sexist crap openly.

Hopefully a host will be along soon to kick your asses to the curb.



brer cat

(24,574 posts)
24. We can hope.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:59 AM
Apr 2016

They are not going to be satisfied until they have taken a dump in every group here. Talk about a sense of entitlement!

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
37. Though I support Sanders
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 06:55 PM
Apr 2016

I will rec this OP to help offset the jack asses who have appeared. Not all of us are assholes.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
39. Dropping in to say I agree 100%.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 07:58 PM
Apr 2016

I'm not going to get into the "official" versus "pretty damn likely" or "mathematically certain" debate. Fact is, we all know what the results of this primary contest are quite likely to be, and no question it is historic. Bigtime.

In the hustle and bustle of a contested and sometimes difficult primary season on DU, that salient fact should not be ignored or papered over.

You all deserve to celebrate it. We all should. It is overdue.

Francis Booth

(162 posts)
41. I feel confident that Hillary is going to win in a landslide.
Mon May 9, 2016, 02:00 PM
May 2016

Good Lord, if she doesn't, what does that say about the intelligence of the American voting public? I mean, all you have to do is read the transcripts of some conversations with Trump to realize that the man doesn't have any two brain cells rubbing together. He has never once, to my knowledge, completed a thought or finished a sentence. It's like there's a blizzard going on inside his skull.

And I'm not even talking about his racist and sexist dog whistles and nonsensical policy positions; those speak for themselves. I'm talking about basic intelligence, of which he appears to have very little. GWB, bless him, wasn't the brightest bulb in the chandelier, but at least he had a belief system that he was sincere about. Trump is all about the size of his dick and how many buildings he can get his name on.

Ms. Clinton is going to mop the floor with him if he dares to face her in a debate.

Oh, and to the posters here claiming that Hillary is not a liberal – please; half the people in the country think she's a communist for chrissakes. Just because she won't make empty promises about free everything doesn't make her a right winger. Jeezus.

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