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BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 09:00 AM Aug 2022

Credit card companies don't give a fuck about fraud?

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Omaha Steve (a host of the DU Community Help forum).

So I canceled my CC early Tuesday morning.

Three small amounts appeared on my account.

Call Mastercard and they say they can't dispute an obvious fraud until the payment goes through.

So I cancel the card to prevent any further transactions. Or so I thought.

This morning three more appear for much higher dollar amounts.

Meanwhile two of the original amounts are paid but their call centre does not open till 8am PT. Can't start an actual dispute till then.

Obviously fraud does not happen only in business hours?

I now have to make a 5th call to go through all the security questions (often twice per call) in the hope of getting some confirmation
that these latest amounts cannot possibly go through as the CC was canceled two days ago.

I just know what they will say.

It takes a few days to cancel a card.

Why is this happening? I think it's because these companies can claim fraud losses as tax deductions.

So why would they give a fuck?

When you report a fraud the payment should be stopped immediately.

If people abuse that they ought to be charged (Stopping legit payments that is by reporting false disputes).





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Credit card companies don't give a fuck about fraud? (Original Post) BSdetect Aug 2022 OP
My CC company drmeow Aug 2022 #1
So does mine, and it's not through a credit union. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2022 #2
Mine has an annual fee drmeow Aug 2022 #3
That's not Mastercard. That's the company that issued Phoenix61 Aug 2022 #4
I have two credit cards, one is a "wild card", and the other one is for recurring charges progree Aug 2022 #5
My credit union issues the Mastercard and there is no annual fee BSdetect Aug 2022 #6
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Aug 2022 #7

drmeow

(5,017 posts)
1. My CC company
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 10:48 AM
Aug 2022

contacts me if they suspect fraud, closes my account immediately, blocks any pending charges I didn't make, and refunds any that already went through. It is not all CC companies! Mine is througha credit union, not a bank.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,735 posts)
2. So does mine, and it's not through a credit union.
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 11:00 AM
Aug 2022

In fact, they just caught two fraudulent attempted purchases on my card last night. They sent me an email asking if it was authorized or not. When I responded that it wasn't authorized, they had me call them.

The nice fraud representative I talked to shut down the old account. I'll get a new card FedExed to me, and they'll investigate.

Frankly, this is why I have this particular credit card vs. the others. No annual fee either.

drmeow

(5,017 posts)
3. Mine has an annual fee
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 11:36 AM
Aug 2022

But has a great mileage program (not tied to a particular airline and no blackout dates) - although it became significantly less useful with the pandemic!

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
4. That's not Mastercard. That's the company that issued
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 11:44 AM
Aug 2022

you that card. I’ve had them lock my account because they suspected a fraudulent charge. Apparently, a $1 charge followed by a much larger charge is what triggered that.

progree

(10,907 posts)
5. I have two credit cards, one is a "wild card", and the other one is for recurring charges
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 12:04 PM
Aug 2022

They are both Chase Visa cards. I learned the hard way when I had a card with a lot of recurring charges closed due to a fraudulent charge, and then I had to painstakingly resume the recurring billing -- with about 10 different entities -- on the new card, a process that took several hours given flaky websites (I had to go to each biller's website, e.g. the electric company, and change the card info. And then on to the gas company's website. And on and on - each different and each with their own way of doing things and eccentricities)

Anyway that new card is the "recurring charges" card that I rarely use for anything else (except accidentally).

The other card is a "Wild" card which I use at restaurants and stores, online purchases, and other non-regularly-recurring situations. So that card number is more likely to get hit with a fraudulent charge. If it does, well, what happens happens. At least I don't have to establish recurring billing on the new card.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
6. My credit union issues the Mastercard and there is no annual fee
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 01:35 PM
Aug 2022

They have started an investigation as to why charges are happening two + days after the card was canceled.

I now have to deal with 6 disputed charges. Wait till they are posted first then dispute.

Account should be locked immediately.

Multiple phone calls going thru security checks.




Omaha Steve

(99,630 posts)
7. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 07:54 PM
Aug 2022

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