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hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 12:16 PM Aug 2014

Catholic Church must welcome ‘unconventional couples,’ says top Italian bishop

Josephine McKenna

ROME (RNS) The Catholic Church should make “unconventional couples” feel at home instead of making them targets of “de facto discrimination,” the leader of the Italian Bishops Conference and an ally of Pope Francis said this week.

“Couples in irregular matrimonial situations are also Christians, but they are sometimes looked upon with prejudice,” said Bishop Nunzio Galantino, an apparent reference to divorced and remarried Catholics.

“The burden of exclusion from the sacraments is an unjustified price to pay, in addition to de facto discrimination,” he said Wednesday (Aug. 27) in an address to a national conference on liturgy in the Italian hill town of Orvieto.

http://www.religionnews.com/2014/08/28/catholic-church-must-welcome-unconventional-couples-says-top-italian-bishop/

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Catholic Church must welcome ‘unconventional couples,’ says top Italian bishop (Original Post) hrmjustin Aug 2014 OP
Another refreshing step forward. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #1
I hope things get better. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #3
I'm sure they do too Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #15
Yes it does sound familiar. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #16
There will be an interesting synod soon. rug Aug 2014 #2
I hope thdy let divorced Catholics go to communion. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #4
What I find interesting is that if they do admit to Communion Catholics who are having sex outside rug Aug 2014 #7
Yes that would be true. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #8
That in turn opens up the whole concept of sin and humanity and the purpose of the Eucharist. rug Aug 2014 #9
Yes and EWTN Catholic will be in an uproar if things get changed. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #10
The wagons will circle in Irondale, Alabama. rug Aug 2014 #11
Indeed! That Arroyo character will look peturbed. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #12
You don't want to get Raymond angry. rug Aug 2014 #13
Raymond creeps me out and reminds me of Santorum. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #14
Raymond has a perpetual smirk. No Vested Interest Aug 2014 #19
I know what you mean. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #20
The Francis-haters will become extremely agitated. okasha Aug 2014 #21
They would never dream of being so hostile to the last two popes. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #22
As I've said before Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2014 #23
I agree. It's not something to be rationed and hoarded. rug Aug 2014 #24
It will be interesting and could be huge. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #17
Really? Keep me posted. rug Aug 2014 #18
Well, it's not quite as positive as I would like, but it's a start, I guess. cbayer Aug 2014 #5
Yeah I hope the ball gets rolling on this one. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #6
kicking. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #25

Starboard Tack

(11,181 posts)
1. Another refreshing step forward.
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 12:42 PM
Aug 2014

The more people like Galant who speak up and address inequality the better. The RCC has a lot of catching up to do.

Starboard Tack

(11,181 posts)
15. I'm sure they do too
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 03:12 PM
Aug 2014

If not, they are likely to lose more members. I feel for those members who are sincere, but have little sympathy for the leaders who are rigidly stuck in the middle ages. Exclusivity leads to marginalization. Sound familiar?

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
2. There will be an interesting synod soon.
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 01:14 PM
Aug 2014
Galantino was Francis’ choice in March to lead the fractious Italian hierarchy, and from the beginning the bishop has adopted the pontiff’s inclusive approach. That has often landed Galantino in hot water, as he has spoken about the need for the church to welcome gays and to consider optional celibacy for the priesthood.

But Galantino has not softened his views, which are especially newsworthy because in October the Vatican will host a major conference of the world’s top bishops, called a synod, to discuss issues facing the modern family.

How to deal with gay and cohabiting couples is a likely topic of discussion, but the question of whether Catholics who have divorced and remarried without an annulment can take Communion has emerged as a focal point of disputes among bishops.

That’s because the issue is a test case of whether the church under Francis will, or can, change its policies relating to the central sacrament of Communion. Some say such a change is impossible, while others say that changes are not only possible but imperative given that so many couples have divorced and remarried and feel alienated from the church.
 

rug

(82,333 posts)
7. What I find interesting is that if they do admit to Communion Catholics who are having sex outside
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 02:32 PM
Aug 2014

a sacramental marriage, there is no basis to exclude gay Catholics who are not celibate either.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
9. That in turn opens up the whole concept of sin and humanity and the purpose of the Eucharist.
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 02:39 PM
Aug 2014

No Vested Interest

(5,167 posts)
19. Raymond has a perpetual smirk.
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 03:45 PM
Aug 2014

Perhaps the poor guy can't help his looks, but I can zap that channel very quickly when he appears.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
23. As I've said before
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 09:59 AM
Aug 2014

The Eucharist is not a reward for being good, it is spiritual food. And denying it to those who may be in most need of it is unchristian. Remember the Parable of the Lost Sheep? Here's Luke 15:4-7

Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn’t he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders 6 and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.’


The hierarchs who would deny the Eucharist would say, "I've lost a sheep? So what, I've got plenty more."

Starboard Tack

(11,181 posts)
17. It will be interesting and could be huge.
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 03:17 PM
Aug 2014

There's a lot of buzz on the street in Rome about this. Francis appears to have a lot of support, especially from the flock and the lapsed members of the flock. Catholicism tends to be a strong faith, but lost so many, not due to a lack of belief, but rather a lack of trust in the institution and its hierarchy.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
5. Well, it's not quite as positive as I would like, but it's a start, I guess.
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 02:12 PM
Aug 2014

And it's light years ahead of the US Bishops.

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