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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:26 AM Mar 2015

Top liberals call for Warren candidacy - They say that Hillary needs a Democratic opponent.

Top liberals call for Warren candidacy
They say that Hillary Clinton needs a Democratic opponent.

By Gabriel Debenedetti
3/30/15 5:40 AM EDT

Three prominent liberal activists — including the president of a large union — are calling for Elizabeth Warren to challenge Hillary Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination, insisting that the Massachusetts senator’s participation in a competitive primary process would benefit the party.

Warren hasn’t budged from her insistence that she won’t pursue a White House bid. But the new voices calling for her candidacy represent a new phase in the progressive push to persuade her to run, just days after Clinton appeared alongside two other union chiefs on a panel in Washington — and not long before Clinton is expected to launch her long-anticipated presidential bid.



“We agree with former Labor Secretary Robert Reich, the Boston Globe, and many others that Sen. Elizabeth Warren would be a strong candidate, and that if Hillary Clinton also declares, the debate between the two of them would be critical for our nation,” write Larry Cohen, president of the Communications Workers of America, and Annie Leonard, executive director of Greenpeace USA — the environmental group — in a new letter published by Run Warren Run, a campaign organized by liberal political organizations.

The letter’s authors argue that Democrats deserve a lively debate over issues, including the role of money in politics, voting rights, global trade, global warming and worker’s rights, and that the “country needs new ideas and new leaders.”

“If we end up with a single Democratic candidate — and little to no debate in the primaries — those of us unlikely to support a Republican nominee will be left voting for a Democrat who may be opposed to the Republican agenda but is not necessarily a champion of the vision of change that millions of us seek and that this country needs,” write Cohen, a Democratic National Committee member who endorsed then-Sen. Barack Obama over Clinton in 2008, and Leonard.

Run Warren Run, the campaign jointly operated by liberal groups MoveOn and Democracy for America, will also unveil an op-ed by Javier Valdes, secretary of the Working Families Party in New York and a leader of a progressive political committee focused on Hispanics, encouraging Warren to run for the sake of spurring a debate about “racial and immigrant justice.”

A significant group of liberal activists, academics and groups — including New York’s Working Families Party and The Boston Globe’s editorial board — have lined up behind the efforts to draft Warren, often citing the importance of a competitive primary rather than any animus toward Clinton. But many progressives regard the presumptive front-runner as being too close to Wall Street. They believe Warren, an antagonist of big banks, represents an attractive alternative despite her repeated insistence that she will not run. At the very least, they expect she could help pull Clinton farther to the political left.

The addition of Cohen to the pro-Warren group is sure to complicate organized labor’s role in the nominating process. Most labor leaders have yet to weigh in, but many have a long history with Clinton and some have appeared with her at recent events....

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/top-liberals-call-for-warren-candidacy-116496.html


(Props to AtomicKitten for first posting this article in the GD!! )

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Top liberals call for Warren candidacy - They say that Hillary needs a Democratic opponent. (Original Post) RiverLover Mar 2015 OP
By the time the general election rolls around MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #1
She's got one write-in from me if Hill is our nominee, that's for sure. RiverLover Mar 2015 #3
Nope donnasgirl Mar 2015 #6
3 More in my house. classykaren Mar 2015 #12
Love it! RiverLover Mar 2015 #18
Warren is not running because she knows Cryptoad Mar 2015 #7
Sorry, but this is the Elizabeth Warren group RiverLover Mar 2015 #10
The more i see the more i like donnasgirl Mar 2015 #13
Mine too. Great article donnasgirl! Thanks! RiverLover Mar 2015 #14
We definitely need a real primary get the red out Mar 2015 #2
Regressive will be the only word to describe a Democratic primary without truly Progressive RiverLover Mar 2015 #4
TEd Cruz Cryptoad Mar 2015 #5
huh? RiverLover Mar 2015 #8
Nope got it right where I wanted it! Cryptoad Mar 2015 #9
Bah bye!! /nt RiverLover Mar 2015 #11
Your trolling is becoming too obvious, if you wish to make an ass of youself Dragonfli Mar 2015 #46
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Mar 2015 #15
Martin O' Malley is a Democrat, and he's running against Clinton. nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #16
I don't know O'Malley well, but what I've seen so far I like. Greybnk48 Mar 2015 #19
I think he'll do a great job advocating progressive policy positions and geek tragedy Mar 2015 #20
I agree. /nt RiverLover Mar 2015 #22
I would love to see Warren as President, BUT... Jim Lane Mar 2015 #44
O'Malley is good on issues, but I don't know how he will do when it comes to charisma and JDPriestly Apr 2015 #47
Bernie should hop in too. n/t Greybnk48 Mar 2015 #17
Bernie and elizabeth donnasgirl Mar 2015 #21
I'd love to see Bernie & Sherrod both jump in. RiverLover Mar 2015 #23
What i like about them donnasgirl Mar 2015 #24
I really like Sherrod Brown Greybnk48 Mar 2015 #25
I also would love to see Brown picked donnasgirl Mar 2015 #27
Brown is from Ohio, a swing state. That is a plus for him. But Elizabeth Waren is the one. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #48
I do not call it Bombastic, donnasgirl Mar 2015 #29
I think Grayson would be a really great President MynameisBlarney Mar 2015 #36
I call for a Warren run too, but I don't give a damn what 'Hillary needs'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #26
I picked that up too -- the body of the story says "Democrats deserve" starroute Mar 2015 #35
Didn't Reich recently say he'd run abelenkpe Mar 2015 #28
Wow, I hope that's true! RiverLover Mar 2015 #31
Found this on his Facebook page: abelenkpe Mar 2015 #39
Thanks abelenkpe! And I seriously agree with this~ RiverLover Mar 2015 #42
Don't know exactly but heres a link to an image from his recent appearance abelenkpe Mar 2015 #45
I'd vote for him, noooo problem! MynameisBlarney Mar 2015 #34
Me too abelenkpe Mar 2015 #38
Yup. MynameisBlarney Mar 2015 #41
If Warren doesn't run, Bernie Sanders and Robert Reich would be alternatives. Not Elizabeth JDPriestly Apr 2015 #49
Then how about Martin O'Malley LynneSin Mar 2015 #30
Best outcome for progressives: Thespian2 Mar 2015 #32
Thanks Thespian2. RiverLover Mar 2015 #40
I don't think she is going to bow to the pressure to run. MynameisBlarney Mar 2015 #33
The sad part of your comment donnasgirl Mar 2015 #37
Maybe. No one knows but her. MynameisBlarney Mar 2015 #43
EW would eat Hillary's lunch in a debate. I'd sure love to see it. Scuba Apr 2015 #50
 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
1. By the time the general election rolls around
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:01 AM
Mar 2015

At the rate things are going, Warren could win as a write-in candidate!

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
7. Warren is not running because she knows
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:49 AM
Mar 2015

that a Progressive can not win the General Election thanks to the GOP Court!

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
10. Sorry, but this is the Elizabeth Warren group
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:53 AM
Mar 2015

And you are trolling a protected "safe haven" with your ridiculous drivel.

See ya!

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
14. Mine too. Great article donnasgirl! Thanks!
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:17 AM
Mar 2015

Citi is out to destroy her now, but she's tough & doesn't give a damn. What's important is doing the right thing for Americans. May she prosper, and inspire many other Dems to Stand Up for People.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
5. TEd Cruz
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:46 AM
Mar 2015

saying he stands shoulder to shoudler with Pence and Religious Freedom. All the Hillary Haters say,,,, well,, at least Cruz is not Hillary!

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
46. Your trolling is becoming too obvious, if you wish to make an ass of youself
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 06:50 PM
Mar 2015

by equating Warren with Cruz (or insinuating those that prefer someone that is not right wing like hillary are Cruz supporters), you really should do so in the Hillary group where they are blind to such obvious trollery.

This is the Elizabeth Warren group, no one here is buying such right wing nonsense.

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
19. I don't know O'Malley well, but what I've seen so far I like.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:30 AM
Mar 2015

We cannot allow any more movement to the right. Not an inch.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
20. I think he'll do a great job advocating progressive policy positions and
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:32 AM
Mar 2015

providing a robust, healthy debate on the issues.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
44. I would love to see Warren as President, BUT...
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 01:20 PM
Mar 2015

The reality of modern Presidential campaigns is that you have to start very early. People like Bush, Cruz, O'Malley, and Sanders have been doing that work. At some point, "Warren hasn't done it yet" becomes "Warren didn't do it" simply through the passage of time.

We're not quite at that point yet. She could still decide to run, and if she does, I'll be on Act Blue later that day to send her a donation. Unfortunately, it seems likely that she'll continue to resist these efforts at a draft.

Even if she never runs, though, these demonstrations of support for Warren may be useful -- in influencing O'Malley. He has to decide on a strategy:
(1) Run a "nice" campaign in which he doesn't attack Clinton but just tries to demonstrate his own electoral strength. He positions himself as the logical choice to be her running mate if she wins, but if her campaign collapses then he's there to pick up the pieces and be the nominee.
(2) Run an unabashedly progressive campaign in which he tries to win over the Elizabeth Warren wing of the party, even if that means ticking off the Clinton camp and abandoning any hope of being VP.

My guess is that he was originally leaning toward (1), but the continued pro-Warren fervor may push him toward (2).

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
47. O'Malley is good on issues, but I don't know how he will do when it comes to charisma and
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:27 AM
Apr 2015

exciting voters enough to get them out. That is where Elizabeth Warren excels.

If you read the story of Teddy Roosevelt, the great reformer (but also a very military man and from a very wealthy family), you learn that getting people excited enough to organize behind you and even in front of you is the secret to reform. Elizabeth Warren has that gift. I don't know whether anyone else does. But Elizabeth Warren is way ahead of anyone else on that point at this time.

donnasgirl

(656 posts)
21. Bernie and elizabeth
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:35 AM
Mar 2015

are neck and neck in my opinion, there are 2 others I like but they are not even discussed in any of the discussions and they are Sherrod Brown and Alan Grayson.

donnasgirl

(656 posts)
24. What i like about them
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:40 AM
Mar 2015

All is they are real and do not come across as a phony and are consistent in everything they say.

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
25. I really like Sherrod Brown
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:46 AM
Mar 2015

I'd love to see him chosen as a running mate in 2016. I like Alan Greyson, but he's a bit bombastic for President. Keep him in Congress!

donnasgirl

(656 posts)
27. I also would love to see Brown picked
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:50 AM
Mar 2015

For the very reason people would learn what he is all about and when the time comes he could take the Presidency.

donnasgirl

(656 posts)
29. I do not call it Bombastic,
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:59 AM
Mar 2015

We call it being blunt and sometimes it is what people need to be knocked out of their stupor.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
26. I call for a Warren run too, but I don't give a damn what 'Hillary needs'.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:50 AM
Mar 2015

I call for it because I care about what America needs.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
35. I picked that up too -- the body of the story says "Democrats deserve"
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 10:27 AM
Mar 2015

This really isn't all about Hillary -- and it's been perhaps the greatest weakness of her campaign to make it seem that way.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
39. Found this on his Facebook page:
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 10:53 AM
Mar 2015

Robert Reich
March 24 at 8:13am ·
I appreciate the encouraging words from those of you urging me to run, but I'm way too short, too outspoken, and too unwilling to kiss wealthy posteriors to be a viable candidate. But if Elizabeth Warren remains adamantly opposed to entering the race, and if neither Hillary Clinton nor any other Democratic aspirant is willing to talk about the gross misallocation of income, wealth, and power in America -- and advocate resurrecting Glass Steagall and busting up the big banks; opposing trade deals the are killing American workers and boosting corporate profits; making it easier to form unions; limiting CEO pay; raising the minimum wage wage to $15 an hour; raising taxes on the rich to pay for better schools and infrastructure for everyone else; raising the cap on income subject to the payroll tax; and reversing "Citizen's United" and getting big money out of politics -- then I will have to reconsider.
(Incidentally, I'll be in New Hampshire April 8, speaking at the University of New Hampshire in Durham; and in Iowa May 16, keynoting the Working Families Summit in Ames.)


Seriously, why isn't every democrat saying these things?

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
42. Thanks abelenkpe! And I seriously agree with this~
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:13 AM
Mar 2015
Seriously, why isn't every democrat saying these things?




ps-how short is he anyways?

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
45. Don't know exactly but heres a link to an image from his recent appearance
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 01:29 PM
Mar 2015

Larry Wilmore's "The Nightly Show"

edit for better link:


http://imgur.com/tEv6Uli



JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
49. If Warren doesn't run, Bernie Sanders and Robert Reich would be alternatives. Not Elizabeth
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:31 AM
Apr 2015

Warren, but alternatives that would make the primaries worthwhile.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
30. Then how about Martin O'Malley
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 10:00 AM
Mar 2015

This guy actually is showing interest in running for President and is a liberal

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
32. Best outcome for progressives:
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 10:08 AM
Mar 2015

HRC doesn't run for nomination. Wishful thinking, I know. If Warren doesn't run, who do we have? Will someone who gives a shit about America step up? Waiting to see.

K & R, RiverLover.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
40. Thanks Thespian2.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 10:55 AM
Mar 2015

Waiting to see too. Its time for Progressives to have real Progressive representation in govt, not just Progressive rhetoric when Democrats are campaigning.

This is a make or break time for all of us.

Joining you in that wishful thinking~

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
33. I don't think she is going to bow to the pressure to run.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 10:21 AM
Mar 2015

She knows what she's doing.
When she's ready, she'll let us know.

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
43. Maybe. No one knows but her.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:13 AM
Mar 2015

If she doesn't run and get the Democratic Party nomination, and someone else does, be it Hillary, Sanders, Sasquatch or the Loch Ness Monster...
That's who I will vote for, because I do not want any republican in the white house. With the GOTP in charge of both houses....
That would be a bloody nightmare.

That's where I'm at.

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