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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 06:07 PM Jan 2016

Elizabeth Warren Sinks Clinton's Hopes for Endorsement


Liam Miller

In a speech before the Senate Thursday, on the sixth anniversary of the Supreme Court's Citizens United decision, Elizabeth Warren made clear - for those with ears to hear - that she will not endorse Hillary Clinton.

If you have observed how closely Warren's and Bernie Sanders' messages line up, it is hard to imagine that she would endorse Clinton over him, anyway. Even so, the question has remained. But now, were there any question about whether or not Clinton is truly a Progressive, Elizabeth Warren - with her extraordinary, precise eye for the heart of an issue, and her unsurpassed clarity of expression - has answered it.

The first ten minutes of Warren's speech address corruption in campaign finance, and the impact of Citizens United. She lists seven steps we could take right now, including six actions - bills before Congress, executive action, and powers already within the purview of the FEC and the SEC; and the seventh, a Constitutional Amendment to restore federal and state authority to regulate campaign contributions.

Warren is eloquent, moving, and on topic as always. Right at the end, however, she changes gears. I almost missed it; what she had said up to that point was so compelling that my mind was ringing. It was only on the second listen that I caught them: three sentences that leapt from the specific (campaign finance reform) to the general (Progressivism itself):

A new presidential election is upon us. The first votes will be cast in Iowa in just eleven days. Anyone who shrugs and claims that change is just too hard has crawled into bed with the billionaires who want to run this country like some private club.

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Elizabeth Warren Sinks Clinton's Hopes for Endorsement (Original Post) n2doc Jan 2016 OP
I posted the video on Thursday to this. Check it out. floriduck Jan 2016 #1
Thanks! n/t n2doc Jan 2016 #2
Happy to help. floriduck Jan 2016 #3
Warren should have run... TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #22
WOW.. even just the first 44 seconds !! pangaia Jan 2016 #14
Excellent. Brother_Love Mar 2016 #24
Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Jan 2016 #4
Obviously a self-hating woman. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #5
I want her for president so much Boomer Jan 2016 #6
I think you likely mean 2024 Utopian Leftist Jan 2016 #11
I'm not entirely math impaired Boomer Jan 2016 #16
"the next President will hopefully be a two-term Democrat" or a one term Rump? Brother_Love Mar 2016 #25
Is there any other way to read this speech? sorechasm Jan 2016 #7
K & R ! TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #8
If only she would team up now with Bernie as VP. They would be unstoppable. Akicita Jan 2016 #9
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #10
Yay! elljay Jan 2016 #12
I caught that at the time. wilsonbooks Jan 2016 #13
This is good! Go Bernie! nt wolfie001 Jan 2016 #15
Sad that those supporting HRC are embracing Citizens United. nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #17
Anything to win the game ...right? Brother_Love Mar 2016 #26
You are kicking a post almost 2 months old !! Welcome to the US! riversedge Mar 2016 #27
Sorry. I didn't look for the date. Brother_Love Mar 2016 #28
And you choose the Wealthy over those among us that are suffering. Do you think they will rhett o rick Mar 2016 #30
Call me cynical, but if she now endorsed Hilllary, those talking points would become hers. Gregorian Jan 2016 #18
I'm not too worried about that n2doc Jan 2016 #19
Wow... I've been struggling over whom to support in the primary.... Stand and Fight Jan 2016 #20
I admire your approach Babel_17 Mar 2016 #29
Thank you. Stand and Fight Mar 2016 #32
Your avatar and sig line contradict each other (n/t) liberalnarb May 2016 #35
Did you not notice that the post you're replying to is from January and it's nearly June? Stand and Fight May 2016 #36
Is this accurately attributed to Sen. Warren ? mainstreetonce Feb 2016 #21
Note also Warren's Jan 29 NY Times op-ed terrencebone Feb 2016 #23
More recent quickesst Mar 2016 #31
I don't think she'll endorse anybody until it's official farleftlib Mar 2016 #33
I think it's a smart move...... quickesst Mar 2016 #34
Very smart move. She keeps the Sanders supporters as allies all the way through the primary. nt eastwestdem May 2016 #37
 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
3. Happy to help.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 06:23 PM
Jan 2016

Warren did an awesome job and I agree there is no way she would endorse Hillary after listening to her.

TTUBatfan2008

(3,623 posts)
22. Warren should have run...
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:04 PM
Feb 2016

Then we would not have the gender politics going on in this primary. It would be strictly a policy fight. Money in politics is a huge problem. Bernie and Elizabeth are 100% against it and we need more people who share their principles.

Utopian Leftist

(534 posts)
11. I think you likely mean 2024
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:39 PM
Jan 2016

since the next President will hopefully be a two-term Democrat.

And I agree, Elizabeth Warren would make an exciting President!

Boomer

(4,168 posts)
16. I'm not entirely math impaired
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:08 PM
Jan 2016

I did indeed mean 2020. If Sanders wins, I think a 4-year term may be exhausting enough for him. And if HRC wins... I still want Warren in 2020.

sorechasm

(631 posts)
7. Is there any other way to read this speech?
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:24 PM
Jan 2016

Other than it being the anniversary CU, why now would she make this speech that is so supportive of the platform promoted by Bernie Sanders?

 

Brother_Love

(82 posts)
26. Anything to win the game ...right?
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 08:37 PM
Mar 2016

Too bad it is a game to some, rather immature and lacking true concern for the health of the USA.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
30. And you choose the Wealthy over those among us that are suffering. Do you think they will
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 08:56 PM
Mar 2016

like you?

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
18. Call me cynical, but if she now endorsed Hilllary, those talking points would become hers.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:00 PM
Jan 2016

It wouldn't be true, based on her past, but she could embrace them by association.

That was my fear as I heard what she said. However, it's pretty unlikely.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
19. I'm not too worried about that
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:02 PM
Jan 2016

HRC seems to have decided that We The People can't have such things, it is just 'impossible'. The best we can do is a 'stern talking to' .

Stand and Fight

(7,480 posts)
20. Wow... I've been struggling over whom to support in the primary....
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 02:20 PM
Jan 2016

I've been struggling over whom to support in the primary, but I deeply respect Elizabeth Warren for her consistency over the years. That said, I have been more than a little turned off by the immaturity and rudeness of many Bernie Sanders supporters on this board. Nonetheless, having spoken with his campaign staff here in Nevada, looked very closely at him, I am definitely leaning towards Senator Sanders. Especially with what Senator Warren clearly intimated in the quote from the original post. I'm not at all confident that Clinton will do anything to promote progressive policies, but I am very certain that Bernie Sanders means what he says and will get things done.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
29. I admire your approach
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 08:56 PM
Mar 2016

Be true to yourself, and I'll respect your choice even if you vote against my pick.

Stand and Fight

(7,480 posts)
32. Thank you.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 03:38 PM
Mar 2016

Given my signature, I clearly decided to go with Hillary. It was a very lengthy process, but I can understand why someone would support Senator Sanders. Regardless of how things turn out, I will support whomever ends up being the nominee, because I won't risk this country being put in the hands of a fascist demagogue like Trump.

Stand and Fight

(7,480 posts)
36. Did you not notice that the post you're replying to is from January and it's nearly June?
Fri May 20, 2016, 08:40 PM
May 2016

Clearly rather than trying to focus on snark, you should focus on the details.

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
21. Is this accurately attributed to Sen. Warren ?
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:39 PM
Feb 2016

The next president can honor the simple notion that nobody is above the law, but it will happen only if voters demand it.

— Elizabeth Warren (@SenWarren) January 29, 2016

I saw this on another board and wonder if you would know if this really came from Warren.

Thanks

terrencebone

(11 posts)
23. Note also Warren's Jan 29 NY Times op-ed
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:19 PM
Feb 2016

Reference http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/29/opinion/elizabeth-warren-one-way-to-rebuild-our-institutions.html

After detailing the failures of some executive branch agencies to hold corporations accountable, she delivers a similar message.


Each of these government divisions is headed by someone nominated by the president and confirmed by the Senate. The lesson is clear: Personnel is policy.

Legislative agendas matter, but voters should also ask which presidential candidates they trust with the extraordinary power to choose who will fight on the front lines to enforce the laws. The next president can rebuild faith in our institutions by honoring the simple notion that nobody is above the law, but it will happen only if voters demand it.


Draw your own conclusions!

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
31. More recent
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 09:55 PM
Mar 2016

Here's what she said in an interview three days ago.



Sen. Elizabeth Warren Still Won’t Endorse Sanders Or Clinton
March 17, 2016 8:43 AM
BOSTON (CBS) — In a tense interview on CBS This Morning Thursday, Sen. Elizabeth Warren again refused to endorse a candidate in the Democratic primary race, only saying that she’s glad both Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are “out talking about the issues.”

CBS This Morning host Norah O’Donnell noted that all of Warren’s fellow female Democratic senators had endorsed Hillary Clinton as the party’s presidential nominee, and asked Warren if she would endorse a candidate before the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia in July.

“I don’t have a timeline for this,” said Warren, instead saying she was just proud that both Clinton and Sanders have been talking about issues of education and wealth inequality.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/03/17/elizabeth-warren-interview-refuses-endorse-bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton/

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farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
33. I don't think she'll endorse anybody until it's official
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:21 PM
Mar 2016

And I think that's the right thing to do, I wish a lot of other Dems would have followed her lead on this. Although in my heart I believe she's very pro-Sanders.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
34. I think it's a smart move......
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 04:16 PM
Mar 2016

... And I believe she's pro-Democrat, and will support the Democratic nominee.

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