Que es la más mierda?

[Bernin4U]

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Trying to decide what I find the most disappointing about many supposed Dem attitudes:

1. Obama has been about as close to perfect as humanly possible, as proven by his overall high approval ratings among Dems. Therefore, the only acceptable action for the next pres is to take his baton and continue at the same pace and same direction.

2. Bernie's not a serious candidate. This will especially be proven if he doesn't win the primary. The fact that he's been able to come out practically from nowhere (pretty sure most of the country has not been "Brunching with Bernie" over the years), get zero party support, and still break records for popular support will mean absolutely nothing ("a blip on the radar&quot if he doesn't manage to slay goliath.

3. Your guy is weak, while ours is a powerhouse. Even if he beats us, which of course is not possible, but just say that he were to, he's still a weakling and we're still a powerhouse. He should not be allowed to beat us, because only we can win in the finals. Therefore, he should abdicate the conference to us. Beating us and winning the conference means nothing, as we are still the better team, and only we can deliver the championship for our conference.

4. Bernie is out there, promising us the stars. How dare he not promise that one over there, just visible over the horizon?

5. We get to say whatever we want about Bernie, and until proven false it must be true. Any charges proven to be completely absurd are to have no bearing on charges that haven't been.

6. Any charges against us probably were and/or will be raised by a right-winger somewhere, therefore they are a RW talking point, which of course automatically renders them invalid.

7. She has decades of experience. A lot of great things happened, and some not so much. But whatever of that was bad, don't look at her, because she wasn't the president.

8. Experience = establishment. Bernie has been a politician for decades, therefore he is an establishment politician. Right, and Jello Biafra has been a professional musician for 40 years, making him considerably more establishment than, say, Taylor Swift.

Others? (And help yourself to fixing my wannabe hs espanol.)

[guillaumeb]

1. Recommended. Very nicely put.

Lequelle est le plus merdique?

Which is the shittiest in French. If that is what the Spanish says.

[tazkcmo]

2. Good start.

Mine is "No we can't."

[libdem4life]

3. A comment on #4...re Reparations...no one on this board can tell me anything about them.

I've asked 2-3 times, after I listened to a 15 minute online talk by a black man. What are they, who do they involve? How would they qualify? others, but most of all "Why should taxpayers pay for something no one knows anything about?" Sounds like Tax and Spend to me.

It's so sad, it's almost funny. Bad Bernie. He doesn't want Reparations. No, he just wants a fair shake for the masses...jobs, health care, respect...things that reparation, even if we knew what they were, would likely not provide.

[Bernin4U]

4. I briefly read Coates' "Case for Reparations"

And was pretty blown away that he seemed to find no need to specify anything about what it might entail, who/what it might involve, expected results, etc.

It's like making a business case, identifying that a problem or need exists, and a solution is needed. But not even stating what your actual product or service is, to meet that solution. Let alone how it will benefit your customers, how it will benefit you, how you build it, how you implement it, how you market and sell it, and so on.

There are dozens of considerations, and while no one expects you can or will get them 100% right (since it's all speculative anyway), you still need to include them, at least as a starting point for the discussion. Otherwise you are not truly making a case.

[libdem4life]

5. No one does...it's the Establishment dog whistle that Bernie's not with it with POC.

Of course, neither is anyone else, but that's beside the point. The talk I heard by a clearly intelligent black man...somewhere on DU...was that it was a bunch of nothing. I've tried to recreate his thoughts on here at every chance I get.

Reparations are one big Dog Whistle. Democrats should be ashamed. Just like Bernie's D-NRA rating. The NRA knows better than some Democrats...who just brush it off and forgot about Annie Oakley Clinton.

Oh and health care, too...that's doesn't even deserve a response from Democrats. The 1992 Health care for all the Republicans hated...and her...was that she was just badly uniformed back then. They were right...she's been Listening and doesn't think it's a good idea now.

Now, if we separate by Oligarchy vs. Reformation and ultimately Reinvention ... that's the story. That has no R or D at the end of the name. That's where we are.