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Related: About this forum“She got fair market value for her speeches. She made that decision,”
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/david-brock-hillary-clinton-disclosures-219420
Brock warns of slippery slope on Clinton disclosures
By Nick Gass
02/18/16 08:10 AM EST
Asking for Hillary Clintons transcripts from her paid speeches to Goldman Sachs could be a slippery slope for even more requests, one of the candidates top surrogates insisted Thursday.
I think theres nothing to hide, but I think that could be a slippery slope and we could end up asking for all sorts of things, David Brock, the founder of the pro-Clinton Correct the Record PAC, said in an interview with MSNBCs Morning Joe.
In defending Clintons paid speeches to Goldman Sachs, in particular, Brock cited former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who embarked on his own speaking tour prior to running for the Republican nomination in 2008.
She got fair market value for her speeches. She made that decision,
Is it just me, or was that a Kinsley gaffe?
A Kinsley gaffe occurs when a political gaffe reveals some truth that a politician did not intend to admit.[7][8] The term comes from journalist Michael Kinsley, who said, "A gaffe is when a politician tells the truth some obvious truth he isn't supposed to say."
He basically implies that you can get a candidate for President to say what you want to hear, to in effect lay down a marker, if you're willing to pay the asked for amount of cash.
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/02/hillary-clinton-goldman-sachs-speeches
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/hillary-clinton-gave-glowing-speeches-goldman-sachs-article-1.2526071
http://fortune.com/2016/02/09/clinton-speeches-goldman-sachs/
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/clinton-speeches-218969
And as we've heard, it's Secretary Clinton who asked for the specific fee, it wasn't merely an offer that she accepted.
The transcripts need to be released so we can see if those speeches do indeed give that impression.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/17/1486518/-Hillary-s-Goldman-Handcuffs-Yes-that-is-there-nickname-for-her
So I'm asking, is it just me or was that a Kinsley gaffe by Brock?
P.S. My favorite Kinsley gaffe:
ARTHUR: Bloody peasant!
DENNIS: Oh, what a give away. Did you here that, did you here that,
eh? That's what I'm on about -- did you see him repressing me, you saw
it didn't you?
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“She got fair market value for her speeches. She made that decision,” (Original Post)
Babel_17
Feb 2016
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tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)1. she probably just said a lot of words...
...say she gave a speech that lasted an hour.
that's about 8,000 words... that's a lot of words (http://www.speechinminutes.com/).
so $250,000 / 8,000 words = $31.25 / word
seem like a fair market price to me
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)2. Is David Brock the new Dick Morris*?
Brock apologized to Professor Hill, and that meant something to me. I was also impressed by his book, Blinded by the Right. But I think when you're turning a page on that kind of behavior, you need to really turn the page. He's been too underhanded recently for me to consider his conversion as totally sincere.
Another reminder of the person he tried to smear.
Huh, this just in: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/02/hillary_campaign_needs_a_scapegoat_david_brock_a_leading_candidate.html
Key Democratic players are worried that Hillary Clintons super-PAC ally David Brock could be hurting her image and hampering her chances of winning the presidency.
In interviews over the past month, Clinton donors, fundraisers and operatives have told The Hill that the concerns about Brocks comments, particularly some of his attacks on Bernie Sanders, stretch all the way to the top of Clintons political machinery.
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/269791-david-brocks-hardball-tactics-worry-clinton-supporters
A leading figure in the Democracy Alliance, the liberal equivalent of the conservative Koch brothers donor network, said donors he associates with would like to put Brock back in the can.
I have heard people express concern that what he does could be harmful generally to the campaign, the donor said.
Longtime Clinton fundraiser Bill Brandt, an Illinois-based businessman and personal friend of Bill Clinton, said of Brock, David is well meaning but I think perhaps like a zealot. He should keep it in check a bit. I dont think this needs to be about tearing Bernie down. Its getting nasty and it doesnt need to be.
*lol, I couldn't recall the name "Dick Morris" so I googled "disgraced Clinton advisor", and there he was.