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Bernie Sanders Goes off on Charles Koch (2013) (Original Post) yuiyoshida Jun 2015 OP
Bernie always is... daleanime Jun 2015 #1
I Will No Longer Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Jun 2015 #2
We give these modern-day billioinaire families way too much credit and respect. bulloney Jun 2015 #3
I have known some very wealthy people in my home town. Inherited oil money LiberalArkie Jun 2015 #5
oh my... retrowire Jun 2015 #6
Yes, very worth listening to. Chiquitita Jun 2015 #4
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #7
G K Chesterton nailed it: 'The poor', he said, 'have sometimes objected Joe Chi Minh Jun 2015 #8

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
3. We give these modern-day billioinaire families way too much credit and respect.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 09:40 AM
Jun 2015

Too many people think families like the Kochs and Waltons must be special because they're extremely rich. They didn't get that way because they're exceptionally skilled or smart. THEY INHERITED THEIR WEALTH!! Inheritance is not a life skill.

I contend that most of the people from the families I mentioned wouldn't be able to hold a job scrubbing toilets if they had not inherited what they have. That's why we need an inheritance tax with teeth...to avoid having a society of plutocrats pitting the haves against the have-nots.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
5. I have known some very wealthy people in my home town. Inherited oil money
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 10:31 AM
Jun 2015

and just about all dumb as a sack of rocks. Funny story: I had one come in complaining that his new CB radio wasn't working. He went inside the store and got a free cup of coffee while I looked at the radio. I checked it all out and it seemed fine. He came back out and I turned on the radio and he asked me what was that noise. He had never turned the CB to the "On" position.

I believe if you took any of them away from their servants and aides that they would starve to death.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
7. Kicked and recommended a whole bunch!
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 11:19 AM
Jun 2015

Thank you, yuiyoshida.

Bernie, we can feel their war against us.

We can hear their words. The media gives them a platform. Their propaganda is everywhere for all of us to hear.

These billionaires are not satisfied with their incredible wealth. They want to deprive the American citizen of a decent standard of living as if it will somehow enrich their own lives. I do not understand this sick mentality.

The Kochs inherited their wealth. The few people I know that inherited their wealth seem to be on a quest to denigrate the less fortunate.

Tax these fuckers! Tax them at 60—90%. Maybe their contempt toward the less fortunate would lessen.

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
8. G K Chesterton nailed it: 'The poor', he said, 'have sometimes objected
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 11:36 AM
Jun 2015

to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all.'

He went further. Even for a generalization, though, it conveys a truth in a way that is detrimental to our understanding of that same truth, because it it is a blanket condemnation of excessive virulence, in that there have always been rich people who have been more generous with their wealth to people in need than the tax system required, and not to vanity projects, such as art galleries and museums, in their own honour. Chesterton said that the rich in every country were the scum of the earth.

When I said that, limited though it was in conveying a partial truth in a savage way, I meant that there is a marked propensity on the part of the richest, to corrupt those below them in the pecking order of idolatry, influencing them, against their better nature, to cooperate with themselves in pushing an agenda of open-ended greed. I believe that is what meant.

There were a few Tory grandees, the so-called, Wets, for whom the motto, 'Noblesse Oblige' still meant something, and who couldn't stomach the immiseration of the most economically-vulnerable families and individuals by Lady Cardboard's misunderstanding of St Francis of Assissi's love of poverty, and were sacked from the Cabinet and shifted away from engagement with economic policy. Unsurprisingly, guttersnipes thrived under her ladyship.

Not that all the rich are wicked, but that, objectively, even though the hearts of many of them will not be as black as Newgate's knocker, they support the billionaire class, most of whom would be the low-lifes to whom Chesterton referred. I wonder, particularly when they reach their sixties, if the latter really think they will live for ever; and reflect whether - since they evidently don't believe Christ's words in Matthew 25 - they really think that at that stage, it's worth their continuing to 'stiff' the poor, if continuing to do so, will ineluctably entail for them an existence of everlasting misery and terrible torment, heightened by the sight in the distance of the eternity of bliss of the virtuous /penitent, which they themselves might have enjoyed.

How prophetic Sir Ian Gilmour's words:

'As a moderate who disagreed with the economic policies of Prime Minister Thatcher, Gilmour became the most outspoken "wet", delivering a lecture at Cambridge in February 1980 where he argued:

"In the Conservative view, economic liberalism à la Professor Hayek, because of its starkness and its failure to create a sense of community, is not a safeguard of political freedom but a threat to it."

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