Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumI guess female Bernie supporters must be stupid - at least according to this:
http://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/article/Why-a-smart-woman-should-vote-for-Hillary-Clinton-6852619.php....
Dont the young uns know there is no free lunch?
Do they not know that Sanders could do none of what he promises? Dont they know that socialized health care for all means that half of your check is removed before you ever get it? Dont they know theyd be taxed to pay for the health care of poor evangelical rednecks they despise? Dont they know that free college offered to those who didnt advantage themselves of a free K-12 education will just mean that college isnt really college?
The young socialist revolutionaries are afraid of slow steady change, such as legislation sponsored by a President Hillary Clinton to limit the types of interest rates charged for student loans, which could actually get through a bipartisan Congress. I was once young and wanted everything now, now, now! But I never once talked trash about the women who had gone before me and who supported me in my own federal court battles.
Read it and puke. Plenty of condescension and red-baiting...
haikugal
(6,476 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)nt
sarge43
(28,941 posts)Condescension, insults, lies -- that wins hearts and minds
nxylas
(6,440 posts)And they call us naive?
pacalo
(24,721 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)Hillary is not going to do anything that will cost her owners money or future profits. Bottom line.
droidamus2
(1,699 posts)Yes I was young once and wanted it now, now, now and I am still waiting for it. As a lifelong liberal I am still waiting for the Democratic party to break the control of the corporatists and progressively move this country forward. The corporatists have rigged the system and use their lackeys the Republicans to control things directly as in gerrymandering to control the House or by obstructing any progressive movement by use of filibusters and propaganda. Just once I would like to see the party as a whole stand up and fight the good fight and not back down. Are we guaranteed to win, no. Will we get everything we want, no. Just stake out your positions a la Bernie and make a stand.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)I hear ya. I've been waiting a lifetime too. I can't even remember the last time Dems acted like an opposition party, let alone pushed a progressive agenda. Bernie - the so-called wild eyed socialist - is getting traction because they've asked us to hold our noses way too many times now. I'm tired of the party leadership's lecturing. If you won't put up a progressive candidate, don't yell when an independent with true Democratic values jumps into the fray.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)and they wonder why so many are fed up
Rider3
(919 posts)How dare she say this. Corporate America gets freebies every day on our backs. No. We need to turn the tables, get the rich and Corporate America to keep their funds in this country, pay their fair taxes, and stop with the damned loopholes. Once that's cleaned up, we CAN have the healthcare and education programs we so want and need.
eridani
(51,907 posts)--(including children) was worth it.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)The excerpt is more than enough. I'd like to keep my breakfast down.
Beowulf
(761 posts)for them. For the oligarchs there's free lunch, free breakfast, free dinner, an open bar, and a 24/7 gourmet buffet just in case they feel like a snack between meals.
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)Does anyone really buy that America's wealthiest and most corrupt corporations are giving Hillary Clinton extremely large amounts of money for little to no return on their investment?
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)Might cheer you up. Worked for me.
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)This phrase is starting to take on such a negative tone in my mind. It doesn't mean what they think it means! Maybe they should take a closer look at the opportunity costs of Hillary Clinton's plans since she doesn't want any new or raised taxes.
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)Hillary's mouthpieces talk down to female Bernie supporters.
Imagine the way she'd act after she got into the White House - not that I think she ever will - if this is how she treats women beforehand.
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)Yeah, she gets things done. Mostly bad things. I'd take a dead halt over doing bad things just for the sake of saying I did something.
TBF
(32,062 posts)I even have the old Bill & Hillary campaign buttons upstairs somewhere (from the 90s - I lived in DC at that point). Now she just pisses me off.
And after watching the fruit salad debate last night I can see why she is trying so hard to get rid of Bernie. I am so thankful he is running.
ladyVet
(1,587 posts)They've seen the same polls we have that show Bernie beating their asses by huge (yooooge) margins. The candidates may be stupid, but the hands behind the curtains certainly aren't.
But what do I know, being a dumb female Bernie supporter?