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ZM90

(706 posts)
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:23 PM Feb 2016

They want us to give up and stop fighting do *NOT* fall for it.

Last edited Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:52 PM - Edit history (1)

The narrative from the corporate media and the Hillary campaign is that because Bernie lost Nevada by very little mind you and because South Carolina is next is that he has no possible path to the nomination.

Do *NOT* fall for it. They are only trying to discourage you.

I honestly think that Bernie will do better in South Carolina than they think. Do I think he will win South Carolina? No I don't but I think he will do better than the media or Hillary camp thinks he will.

They are using false math by stacking it with unpledged superdelegates to try to discourage support and thus try to stop Bernie here and now.

Let's not fall for that am I right?

As long as we can get out Bernie's base and convert more and more people he will win the nomination in one of the biggest political upsets in history.

Don't fall for their bullshit.

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They want us to give up and stop fighting do *NOT* fall for it. (Original Post) ZM90 Feb 2016 OP
I'm not giving up on nothing. retrowire Feb 2016 #1
Hey Retro! I got to see Bernie yesterday! It was awesome! :) n/t ZM90 Feb 2016 #3
AHHH!!! that's awesome! retrowire Feb 2016 #8
I got very close to where I could actually see Bernie up close and yeah the energy was great! n/t ZM90 Feb 2016 #9
Well congrats! retrowire Feb 2016 #11
Bernie was in Kansas City yesterday. I was outside, working the crowd in line....... LongTomH Feb 2016 #25
( ._.) Marty McGraw Feb 2016 #27
My husband and I were there too! MissDeeds Feb 2016 #34
Good deal! n/t JimDandy Feb 2016 #54
When his schedule permits... gregcrawford Feb 2016 #33
Awesome! ybbor Feb 2016 #46
As long as Bernie MuseRider Feb 2016 #2
When Bernie Sanders tells me to guit, I will. erlewyne Feb 2016 #24
K N R Faux pas Feb 2016 #4
Great post Rebkeh Feb 2016 #5
Neither is OK and I know because I was there I am sure Bernie is going to win Tulsa county and ZM90 Feb 2016 #7
Dear CorpoMedia - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FU n/t fredamae Feb 2016 #6
Definitely - and it's important to vote in these SEC states TBF Feb 2016 #10
Yep. March 1st I will be going to the polls to cast one of the proudest votes of my life. ZM90 Feb 2016 #12
Tennessee here - one of the Super Tuesday states. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #41
I voted early here in TX also - TBF Feb 2016 #49
Not buying it. The M$M and even some on the left have rushed to promote appalachiablue Feb 2016 #13
The Sanderstorm is coming!!! cui bono Feb 2016 #14
It will just make me work harder litlbilly Feb 2016 #15
In It To Win It... This Is Why WE Don't Need Hillary! ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #16
Remember that discouraging a vote is not much different jwirr Feb 2016 #21
IT'S BERNIE OR OLIGARCHY 90-percent Feb 2016 #17
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #18
Liberal West Coast states, California, Oregon and Washington have been seated in the back of the bus JDPriestly Feb 2016 #19
and you have to know Marty McGraw Feb 2016 #28
Most of the time, dpatbrown Feb 2016 #32
Thanks. I agree. The West Coast is Sanders nation. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #39
Hi JD dpatbrown Feb 2016 #50
Hi. You are still new. So good to have you here. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #52
If this Gentleman can dedicate his entire life to our Democracy ... Jopin Klobe Feb 2016 #20
Hear! Here! 2banon Feb 2016 #36
K & R! TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #22
Give up? Stop fighting? When HRC says her Mom taught HER to never quit? I mean . . . Petrushka Feb 2016 #23
She's worth well over 100 million. She gets corporate money from LibDemAlways Feb 2016 #45
Nobody's giving up. PatrickforO Feb 2016 #26
Agreed.... INdemo Feb 2016 #29
If they want us to give up, then they don't understand us Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 #30
A vote for Bernie is a vote for courage. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #31
Not falling!!! zentrum Feb 2016 #35
Not after spending more money than ever on one person PatrynXX Feb 2016 #37
Kickin' & a Recken' 2banon Feb 2016 #38
Why would I ever believe known liars? Fawke Em Feb 2016 #40
I don't personally know HRH. Thespian2 Feb 2016 #42
Not falling for their bullshit. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #43
I'm in the fight all the way to Bernie's Presidency! Red Oak Feb 2016 #44
Do what I do - if you have the time DrBulldog Feb 2016 #47
THANK YOU!!!! dana_b Feb 2016 #48
We're not as dumb as they are Politicalboi Feb 2016 #51
We are all fired up!!! Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2016 #53
K&R! Excellent OP and thread. Sometimes DU is golden - this is one of them. Stardust Feb 2016 #55
Not going to give up. nt malokvale77 Feb 2016 #56
Stop fighting? Give up? Duckfan Feb 2016 #57
Give up? We just got started!! Major Hogwash Feb 2016 #58
This is Spider Jerusalem, the protagonist Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #59
The corporatists want us to give up. Noooo! Snarkoleptic Feb 2016 #60
Kick because it's important. nt mariawr Feb 2016 #61
Never quit, never surrender. ladyVet Feb 2016 #62

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
25. Bernie was in Kansas City yesterday. I was outside, working the crowd in line.......
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:07 PM
Feb 2016

....getting them to sign 'Commit to Vote' cards. I was at the back of the crowd in Bartle Hall; but, I got to hear him speak.

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
34. My husband and I were there too!
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:40 PM
Feb 2016

Awesome crowd, and people were still streaming in 45 minutes after the speech was scheduled to start.

No way does HRH draw in the crowds Bernie does.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
33. When his schedule permits...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:40 PM
Feb 2016

... Bernie hosts a birthday cruise on the Lake Champlain Ferry in September. My wife and I went on one of them and I got to shake hands, give him my card, and speak with him for a bit. I reminded him that we'd spoken several times on a VPR call-in show, and he remembered "Greg from Gaysville*," and one of my calls in particular when he was still in the House and running for reelection against a Republican carpetbagger. I asked the guy if he was going to truly represent the interests of Vermonters, or just do whatever Tom "The Hammer" DeLay told him to do. He was not amused. But Bernie was! And he interrupted the rather caustic scolding the carpetbagger was sputtering. Kinda wish he hadn't 'cause I was looking forward to tearing the jerk a new one. Figuratively speaking, of course!

Bernie's a good man, and don't believe a word the Clinton bridge burners say!



* Yes, Virginia, there is a Gaysville, Vermont!

ybbor

(1,554 posts)
46. Awesome!
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:18 PM
Feb 2016

I saw him last week! Still feeling the Bern! Got very close.



Wasn't the vibe incredible?

We gotta make this happen people!

Go Bernie Go!

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
2. As long as Bernie
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:26 PM
Feb 2016

is in it I suspect we will be as well and his support will continue to grow. I can't imagine anyone giving up. He is just getting past his wind up.

Rebkeh

(2,450 posts)
5. Great post
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:28 PM
Feb 2016

I'm not falling for it.

KC and OK happened just yesterday, I was there in KC and trust me, they are not going to fall for it either.

Bernie 2016!!!!!

ZM90

(706 posts)
7. Neither is OK and I know because I was there I am sure Bernie is going to win Tulsa county and
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:33 PM
Feb 2016

probably OK as well on March 1st.

TBF

(32,062 posts)
10. Definitely - and it's important to vote in these SEC states
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:37 PM
Feb 2016

because many times votes are proportionally awarded in the primaries (as they are in TX). That can affect what happens at the conventions.

After Super Tuesday things line up much better for Bernie in northern and swing states - and those are the states we will need in the general. Moderates are going to control this election & the Reagan dems that don't like Trump are potential votes for Bernie. Bernie as an independent without all the baggage stacks up very well for the general. I think it's more about surviving Super Tuesday with as much as we can get, donating, and then finishing strong.

ZM90

(706 posts)
12. Yep. March 1st I will be going to the polls to cast one of the proudest votes of my life.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:40 PM
Feb 2016

The only vote I would be even prouder to cast is for Bernie in the general election .

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
41. Tennessee here - one of the Super Tuesday states.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:59 PM
Feb 2016

My husband, mother and I have already cast our ballots for Bernie during early voting!

appalachiablue

(41,138 posts)
13. Not buying it. The M$M and even some on the left have rushed to promote
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:58 PM
Feb 2016

the notion that Bernie's momentum and chances are slipping since Nevada. I disagree.
There's a LONG WAY to go yet and Bernie is leading in 3 recent national polls including Quinippiac Feb. 13, and beating everyone, including TRUMP.

>MUST READ ARTICLE:
*Feb. 23. "UNLESS THE DEMOCRATS RUN SANDERS, A TRUMP NOMINATION MEANS A TRUMP PRESIDENCY: Democrats Need to Seriously and Pragmatically Assess Their Strategy for Defeating TRUMP"," https://www.currentaffairs.org/



jwirr

(39,215 posts)
21. Remember that discouraging a vote is not much different
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:54 PM
Feb 2016

from obstructing a vote.

In it to win it. I will only quit when Bernie quits.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
17. IT'S BERNIE OR OLIGARCHY
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:29 PM
Feb 2016

It's Bernie or the 21st Century American version of Adolf Hitler. (Perhaps including micro penis and one non-descending testicle?)

Hey, the Don, show us your junk to prove you aren't a reincarnated you-know-who! With your recent record, it will probably only help you in the polls!

-90% jimmy

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
19. Liberal West Coast states, California, Oregon and Washington have been seated in the back of the bus
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:40 PM
Feb 2016

this primary season.

Says it all.

The first states to vote are among the conservative states.

Stupid Tuesday has a large number of Southerners voting on it.

Don't expect a real liberal to do much of anything in most of the states voting on that day.

Let's see. We have Texas, Oklahoma, Georgia, Tennessee, Arkansas, South Carolina, Alabama -- the stupid states voting on Super Tuesday.

We also have Colorado, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Vermont that day, but the headlines will be how Trump took all the stupid states so be prepared.

This primary schedule is rigged toward the right. I hate to say it, but it is.

 

dpatbrown

(368 posts)
32. Most of the time,
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:37 PM
Feb 2016

we here in California know that our vote doesn't have any bearings on most primaries, not just this one. We don't vote until June 7th, winner take all, and 546 delegates at stake. This year I expect California to carry a lot of weight, in other words, to pick the winner. California will go for Sanders in a landslide.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
39. Thanks. I agree. The West Coast is Sanders nation.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:52 PM
Feb 2016

I want free tuition at state schools. I watched the immigrant kids practicing for ROTC at the local high school. Those are the kids who don't have the money for college, aren't the very, very top scholarship students, but who want an education. They offer their bodies to the military. Cannon fodder in exchange for education.Y

If we had free tuition for capable students at state schools, it would be great for minority kids including immigrant kids. Those are the young people in my neighborhood.

Bernie knows what it is to be the child of immigrants, to be talented, but to have no money for fulfilling dreams.

America is about fulfilling dreams.

Bernie gets it.

And that is why I am voting for Bernie.

I don't want to see the kids in my neighborhood used as cannon fodder for Hillary's wars. I trust Bernie to run a sane, healthy foreign policy. He has the judgment to do that. Hillary has proved that she does not.

California should vote first in the Democratic primaries in my opinion.

 

dpatbrown

(368 posts)
50. Hi JD
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 08:00 PM
Feb 2016

Yes, first. You are spot on.
Your reasons for voting for Sanders are the best.

I taught school in a low income neighborhood for 26 years, and I know there are many kids who can make it. Just a nudge, a little assistance. Pays off big time in the long run.

I would love to be the state that puts Senator Sanders over the top. I've waited a long time, as have many others on this site, for a honest progressive.

Jopin Klobe

(779 posts)
20. If this Gentleman can dedicate his entire life to our Democracy ...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:49 PM
Feb 2016

... the absolute very LEAST we can do is support him ...

... if, for nothing else, for our own sakes ...

... they are ALL scared ... and that's good ...

... in the United States, the People are afraid of the Government ...

... in Europe, the Governments are afraid of The People ...

... I prefer the latter ...

Petrushka

(3,709 posts)
23. Give up? Stop fighting? When HRC says her Mom taught HER to never quit? I mean . . .
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:04 PM
Feb 2016
. . . of all things, I received a 4-page letter from Hillary today saying "Republicans are coming after us with everything they've got."

Two pages later, she goes on to say, "We need your support to run TV and radio ads to counter their attacks with the truth -- produce digital ads so people can share our message online -- grow our Party's grassroots network even further in all 50 states -- and invest in the technology needed to target voters and get them to the ballot box on Election Day,"

She ends the letter by saying, "Please, while this letter is still in your hands, make your donation so that together we can defeat the Republicans and build the kind of future hard-working Americans deserve. Thank you."

Whoa!

How did my address get on her mailing list . . . unless the DNC made it available to her? And, since I haven't renewed my DNC membership for YEARS . . . well, let's just say I'm saying, politely of course, to poor hat-in-hand Hillary: "Hell, no . . . I support Bernie! Now, git off my lawn!"

My Mom taught ME a thing or two, too!

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
45. She's worth well over 100 million. She gets corporate money from
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:11 PM
Feb 2016

Super Pacs. She charges big $$$$ to attend her fundraisers. She has a lot of nerve trying to squeeze more from the 99%.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
30. If they want us to give up, then they don't understand us
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:33 PM
Feb 2016

The "opponent" or "enemy" is neither HRC nor even the Third Way/DLC; they are the oligarchs and their neoliberal stooges of whatever politicial party who push an unsustainable and unjust socioeconomic economic system that has destroyed the middlle class and democracy. Our goal is not to make Bernie Sanders president, it is to restore democracy. That's a lot more important than who wins in 2016.

This is not an election campaign; it is a revolution.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
31. A vote for Bernie is a vote for courage.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:37 PM
Feb 2016

It is a vote for moral rectitude.

What if Martin Luther King had said, "Well, there's a mighty big crowd out there against me and my campaign for civil rights. Guess I had better shut up and give up?"

Where would the civil rights movement be today if Martin Luther King had not shown the courage he showed?

Bernie's campaign for democracy is the only way that our national civil rights movement can continue in the spirit of Martin Luther King.

We progressives cannot accept the fate of always sitting in the back of the bus as we have been told to do. We must claim our seat at the lunch table, the economic table, of our country just as brave African-Americans did in the 1960s.

At this point, economic justice and privacy the civil rights issues of our time.

We cannot give in to our fear.

I'm with Bernie through the convention and into the White House. All the way to the White House.

Hope you are all with me.

Don't give in to fear. Anything can happen. Don't give in to fear.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
37. Not after spending more money than ever on one person
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:49 PM
Feb 2016

no I don't think so. That was intentional to. To make sure I fight to our candidate. We don't need another selected candidate or winner

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
38. Kickin' & a Recken'
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:51 PM
Feb 2016

Excellent Thread! Thank You and everyone else participating in this struggle

!

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
42. I don't personally know HRH.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:00 PM
Feb 2016

I don't care for her lying about almost everything...I don't care for the fact that she carries water for corporations of all stripes and Wall Street criminals...I have already sent my international ballot to Florida...I did not vote for the "Inevitable" candidate...

I send Bernie a donation each month...So, hell no! We won't quit until Bernie says quit...

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
43. Not falling for their bullshit.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:01 PM
Feb 2016

They are greatly worried, that's why they're wanting Sanders out now, and trying to silence criticism of the corrupt Third Way.

 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
47. Do what I do - if you have the time
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:23 PM
Feb 2016

When an important issue that supports Bernie appears anywhere that has some DOCUMENTATION with it (i.e. a web page link), I re-post respectfully it on a blog seen by Hillary supporters. It's known as a "truth bomb". If I can wake up a FEW PER CENT of them, that could turn the whole election process. Believe me, many of the Hillary people take great pride in preserving their ignorance . . .

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
48. THANK YOU!!!!
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:51 PM
Feb 2016

I was going to post something like this but I'm kind of wrapped up in family-land right now. Please consider posting this in the GDP anyway?? I know that it's no fun and the Hillary supporters can be brutal but maybe more Bernie people r better yet, undecideds, will see it.

Thanks again!!

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
51. We're not as dumb as they are
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 08:07 PM
Feb 2016

I wonder if they know they're supposed to vote on Sunday for Hillary.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
58. Give up? We just got started!!
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:05 AM
Feb 2016

I know it has been a long week, but there is a whole new month of opportunity starting next Tuesday.
I guess, in a way, you could call it . . . (wait for it) . . . "Super Tuesday".

Har-dee-har-har har.


Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
59. This is Spider Jerusalem, the protagonist
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:35 AM
Feb 2016

This is Spider Jerusalem, the protagonist of a series by Warren Ellis titled Transmetropolitan. Set in a dystopian cyberpunkish future, it follows Spider, a gonzo journalist, as he tries to take down a corrupt politician.









Every law that curbs my basic human freedom; every lie about the things I care for; every crime committed against me by their politics; that what’s makes me get up and hound these fuckers, and I’ll do that until the day I die… or until my brain dries up or something.






Got it?

ladyVet

(1,587 posts)
62. Never quit, never surrender.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:38 PM
Feb 2016

Why would we quit now, when polls are showing him gaining nationally, even ahead in some polls, when he wiped the floor with her in a primary and watched as they cheated to barely beat him in two caucuses?

What kind of supporters would we be if that was a sign we should quit?

What kind of supporters would we be if we quite and abandoned the growing numbers of blacks and Latinos who are finding their way to Bernie? They need our support and encouragement more than ever, so they can find the path to true freedom and equality.

What kind of supporters would we be if we abandoned all the young people who are fired up for the man who will lead them to a prosperous future?

What kind of supporters would we be if we ignored the troubles of the poor, the elderly, the sick, the homeless?

What kind of supporters would we be if we gave up on stopping the endless wars for profit that leave our veterans and the people of other nations to suffer?

I'm with Bernie all the way. All the way to the White House, because that's where he and Jane are going to be living this time next year.

I will never give up. Never quit.

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