Ever hear that saying "I've got one nerve left, and you're on it"?

[Bubzer]

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I dealt with yet another baseless attack against sanders supporters just a little bit ago, after seeing attack after attack after attack. It was my tipping point. I'm so done dealing with Hillary, her cronies, surrogates etc. Just done.

My funds are lower than I'd like them to be, but I think I'm going to make a $500 contribution to Bernie tonight... in part because I really really want Bernie to win...and in part as a sort of self-censure... I don't like that I let Hillary supporters push my buttons that much.

I also thought that might be a good mini-fundraiser idea: anytime you do something you really shouldn't, something you're tring to be better about, donate $5 dollars to Bernie... call it the "the last nerve" fundraiser or some such. Anyway, Thought I'd share my frustrations a little, along with a silver lining.

Go Bernie!!!

[stranger81]

1. You rock!!!!

My personal pledge is to make a donation every time a certain poster, frequently on time-out here, posts a new thread bashing Bernie or complaining all of his supporters are racist assholes. The donations will have to be on the smallish side each, though, since this DUer publishes roughly a dozen of these OPs per day.

[Bubzer]

6. Oof! Depending on who that certain poster is, that could put a person in the poor house!

A smallish sum is definitely preferable in that instance!

[KPN]

82. Awesome.

I like that idea ... I send Bernie a relatively small amount of money every couple of weeks or so, but I think I'll do the same. Thanks for the idea!

[metroins]

2. I'm glad you support Bernie

But please don't place yourself in financial issues to donate to any candidate.

Sleep on it please.

[merrily]

5. This is a group for people who want Bernie to defeat Hillary in the primary.

If I am not mistaken, you are a Hillary supporter.

[DesertFlower]

9. well said. $500 is a lot. i'm a person

with a good income and i'd never considered ever giving that much to a candidate. even when i was supporting obama who i truly believed in my total donations were under $200.

[Jenny_92808]

12. All the small donations add up

and make a big difference for Bernie. Bernie doesn't waste it either. He even fly's coach. Go Bernie!

[liberalnarb]

83. If I had money to spend

I'd be giving in the thousands to Dems. It is a wise investment. An investment in our future.

[merrily]

3. REC! I know the OP was posted only a few minutes ago, but it should have had 100 recs by now.

[Dont call me Shirley]

4. Get calm and Bernie on!

[Bubzer]

7. That so needs to be a shirt!

[Dont call me Shirley]

8. Thanks, it does...

[Jenny_92808]

15. I would buy

that shirt

[Jenny_92808]

10. DU is a much nicer place for me

ever since I put Hillary posters, with bad behavior, on full ignore

[ALBliberal]

11. I was ok until I saw a certain someone was back from time out ugh

I know I should put on ignore but I love throwing facts at her.

[840high]

21. I know who. Feel

the same way about that someone.

[ALBliberal]

23. I think I've figured out how to (sometimes) wipe that smirk off her cyber smile! nt

[2pooped2pop]

36. Maybe she will go back on timeout again soon

[ALBliberal]

37. Tends to happen when feelings get hurt waaahhh! Too hot? Get out of the kitchen!

[SoapBox]

64. I know EXACTLY who you are talking about.

On my Ignore list but still ended up in one of the abrasive posts...ugh.

So back to that donation...BRAVO!

[Blue_In_AK]

91. I read her stuff occasionally,

but I try not to engage. It's really quite pointless.

[Mbrow]

13. friend just stay over here or at

JPR it's fun and informative.

[Bubzer]

24. I really should. But I keep thinking: unchallenged lies become accepted lies.

It's really hard to not engage and debunk all the Bull

[dreamnightwind]

30. I agree, and thanks for taking the trouble to do so

You're on the correct side of things, take solace in that. It's going to be a long and tough primary. We are winning even in losing (the message is getting out there), and we may yet win it all.

[Mbrow]

77. Good point. Thanks for keeping up the good fight.

[DesertFlower]

14. you're willing to give $500

to bernie and you're not a star member. you could have a star for $10 -- maybe less -- a nice thank you to the people who keep this site up and running so we can all express our feelings.

[Jenny_92808]

17. What is a star member?

I gave $500 too.

[DesertFlower]

18. it's when you contribute to DU.

they used to have fund raisers, but stopped a few years ago. guess they depend on people like me or those who buy valentine hearts.

you can't serve on a jury unless you have a star. there are probably a few other perks, but i don't know -- i've always been a star member.

[retrowire]

25. i serve on juries without a star. nt

[DesertFlower]

31. my mistake. i still think

contributing to DU is the right thing to do. they keep this site up and running even during busy times.

[Jenny_92808]

53. How do I

contribute? I don't see a link or anything to do so. I may be a little dense here (sorry).

[DesertFlower]

60. go to your account. they should guide

you there. i've always had a star so i don't remember exactly. my account says "star member" and tells me when it will expire. i forgot once and wondered why the ads popped up.

[Fawke Em]

75. I used to be a Star member back a long time ago under another name.

I took a long time out (remarried, had a baby, etc.), but I haven't donated again, yet. I'm waiting until after the primaries. I'll probably leave here for awhile should Bernie not be the nominee because I'll be in violation of the TOS by not supporting the other candidate.

I'll probably just go over to JPR. I'm the same name there, but just haven't gotten into the habit of posting over there much. Need to go pay a visit.

[Bubzer]

26. You actually can serve on a jury without a star. I do so quite often.

[DesertFlower]

27. my mistake, but contributing to

help keep this site up and running is a nice thank you to skinner, EarlG, etc.

[Bubzer]

28. No worries.

[DesertFlower]

33. thanks for not being nasty about it.

seems people are quick anger and be nasty lately.

[Bubzer]

41. *Sigh* Truth be told, I'd realy prefer to be civil with everyone... regardless of who they support.

And I don't blame all Hillary supporters for a few that insist on being instigators. There are instigators all around. Each time there's any type of results presented, someone always gets angry, or wants to get in I-told-you-sos, or just troll. I rather prefer civil discussion to name calling. I have no reason to be angry with anyone who's being civil with me...even if presenting an argument I disagree with.

[tblue37]

54. As I explain in post #52:

Other perks + no advertisements on the page and the ability to do a site search.

[DesertFlower]

57. i feel the same. that's one of the

reasons i don't post much. it was bad back in '08 but this time it's worse.

[Bubzer]

69. I'm hoping things improve.

[DesertFlower]

72. they probably will after the election, but

then there might be those who will be disappointed with the outcome and will trash the nominiee or new president.

as long as the president is a dem i really don't care too much if it's hillary or bernie.

[Liberal Jesus Freak]

35. You're more likely to serve on a jury if you have a star.

Not always a plus but I appreciate DU

[DesertFlower]

61. i appreciate DU too.

been here since 10/05 -- started with a different name -- left and came back.

[HubertHeaver]

49. You get a bigger jury blacklist for being a star member.

I think it is 15 max, 5 without a star. I would have to look at it again to see for sure. I know my blacklist is full.

[Jenny_92808]

50. I am confused

Thank you for helping me out here. I am still a little confused because I don't see anything on DU asking for money to support DU.

I have been serving on DU juries recently, ergo, my star must be invisible

I originally opened my account here many years ago when I lived in the 92808 zip code. I have lived in WA state for many years now. I just haven't posted here very often until now. I came back because of Thom Hartmann and his mention of DU often (thank you Thom).

[DesertFlower]

59. they don't ask and apparently newer people

don't know about it. they used to have fundaisers -- i tend to remember 4 times a year but decided to stop. i was wrong about the jury.

[Bubzer]

70. To contribute to DU...

Click on "My account", then select the "Star Membership" tab. The rest should be easy from there.

[tblue37]

52. Other perks = no advertisements on the page and the ability to do a site search. nt

[peace13]

93. I have been a star member Since 2005...

My star expired on Valentines Day. When this ship straightens up I will donate again. Until then I see star members out of control with zero governors! When people don't pay for a star they get ads on the screen. I am certain that DU makes more from the ads on my screen than what I would donate given the current environment. And no you don't need a star to be on a jury.

[Bubzer]

48. Awesome!

[Jenny_92808]

51. Let's do it together.

I am so happy to be with you on the Bernie team

[Bubzer]

79. Awww...

We'll definitely get this done together!

[Ilsa]

65. I wonder how much is made from

the advertisements on our pages when we don't have a star?

[Bubzer]

71. Per ad? No much... but it's typically a per ad per viewer deal.

It can add up fast if you've got a sizable viewership.

[DesertFlower]

73. interesting. i personally feel better

being a star member. i always have been and as long as i post on this site i will be.

[Ilsa]

74. I participated in the fundraisers for many years.

But more recently opted out (over last 2 years) as I was not visiting as much.

[a2liberal]

95. I've given more than 500 to Bernie and used to be a star member

I used to be, but decided to let it stay expired when it ended last month. Between the bias of the owners that they make clear through heavy-handed actions, the extremely vitriolic anti-Bernie posts that are allowed to stay, and all the alert stalking of Bernie supporters (despite all their complaints I rarely see an undeserved hide on the other side but plenty of benign pro-Bernie posts hidden, and there's been evidence posted here before of how they coordinate those alerts and yet nothing is done about it), I frankly just don't feel comfortable identifying as a supporter of this site.

Don't get me wrong, I still appreciate its existence and frankly would pay for getting rid of the ads (no I won't use an ad blocker) and for the advanced search feature if I could do so without the star, but only strictly as a commercial transaction, and not as a "supporter". I just don't have it in me to identify that way anymore.

[DesertFlower]

97. many months ago i was a bernie supporter,

but i posted something about colin powell having a private e-mail server. i wasn't defending hillary -- just making a point. they jumped all over me. one person in particular said i was undemocratic. i alerted and asked to have the post removed and was denied.

so it works both ways.

i noticed that skinner is supporting hillary, but thats his right -- the same as it's anyone's right to support bernie or whoever they want.

[a2liberal]

98. The admin has been heavy-handed with the bias

Several popular/prominent Bernie supporters were banned from the site for behavior that Hillary supporters get away with all the time. One (I don't remember which) just pointed out that there existed a site where people were pledging "Bernie or Bust"... didn't even advocate for it, and still got banned.

Edit: here's an example from today... member since 2008, but doesn't post often and doesn't understand protected groups. The poor guy posts in Bernie group with a complaint about being banned from Hillary group, looking to commiserate and discuss a valid point (age bias in thinking "kids these days have it easy&quot . People explain about groups but also empathize (given the ban trigger finger of Hillary group hosts), some other people also express confusion about their bans for benign things. Poster gets Banned from the entire site as a "Troll", and post in Hillary group GLOATING about it is on the front page. With attempts to shame people too. And nobody can reply because it's Hillary group, and if you go and try to express yourself in Bernie group about it you'll probably get banned as a troll (I'm legitimately afraid about even making this post... fear is not an emotion I should be feeling when engaging in legitimate discussion is a protected group on this site). For the record, I am proud to be on that rec list -- not ashamed at all. And all the gloating on that thread (and the fake outrage, boy do I hate the fake outrage and the "support", trying to make themselves out as the victims in the situation just for having their behavior criticized) and the "troll" ban for the poor shy poster is exhibit A for why I can't consider myself a "supporter" of this site any longer.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110763277
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280133381

Edit2: And yet, ugly disgusting smears like this are allowed to stay http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=60651

Edit3: Just went and read where gmoles had accidentally posted in Hillary group. And all I have to say is wow. There's 1 or 2 polite responses about protected groups, but the rest just basically ridicule him. Some pretty ugly and condescending stuff, like implying that he hasn't found a job because he's on his phone during interviews and BS like that (he'd said nothing to give that impression). I guess that's mild compared to the ugliness that often is in that group (like Edit2), but the fact that they then go and play victim when somebody goes to their own safe group to discuss it, and claim that the people actually discussing in the Bernie group should be ashamed... I don't even have words...

[DesertFlower]

99. i don't post in those groups.

actually i don't post much. things are too nasty.

[a2liberal]

100. Umm, you're in one now

[DesertFlower]

101. i had no idea. which one? will i be

punished? lol.

one would think i wouldn't be allowed. i belong to a private group on facebook and i mean "private".

[a2liberal]

102. Perhaps we're talking about different things

When I talk about protected groups, I'm talking about the ones here on DU. For example this thread is in the "Bernie Sanders" group. My impression is that the hosts here are not nearly as ban-happy as the "Hillary Clinton" group, but it's still supposed to be a safe haven for Bernie supporters. So if you started trashing him you would probably get banned (from posting in this group). You can see what Forum or Group a post is in by looking near the top of the page below all the "Home", "Latest", etc. tabs.

There's really no such thing as "membership" in these groups, but you're not supposed to violate the Statement of Purpose for the group, and it's supposed to be sort of a "safe haven" (e.g. no criticizing Hillary in the Hillary group, etc.).

I think perhaps this needs to be better publicized on the site... you've been here longer than me and weren't clear on this. Problem is, the hosts of a certain group are especially touchy, and that's fine, but then when someone who was confused figures it out and takes the conversation elsewhere they act all put-upon and hurt (like the example I posted upthread).

[DesertFlower]

103. i would never bash bernie. what's to bash?

to be honest i'll be glad when we have a candidate.

[thereismore]

16. I do what I can

[Jenny_92808]

55. It all adds up

and helps a lot. I had the money this time so I gave a lot. Next time I may not so I will give less.....but it all adds up and we can make a big difference

[litlbilly]

19. I hear ya bub, i had my nerve hit today and got one of my posts hidden. We have to try and not

take the bait. It really is all they have. They have no problem cheating and stealing. With that in mind, we have to push as hard as we can. We can do this.

[Bubzer]

20. Aint that the god's honest truth.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280129486

[Jenny_92808]

56. We sure can

and I will do my best to do what I can.

[leftcoastmountains]

22. That's right go Bernie!

[femmedem]

29. You've inspired me to donate to Bernie because a poster I like got a ridiculous hide.

What a good idea.

[Bubzer]

47. Oooh! Thats a good one!

[revbones]

32. I'm up to $700+ for Bernie already this year but

after reading DU, if I did that I'd go broke before the end of the week.

Nice job.

[zentrum]

34. Great fundraiser idea! Will do.

I just read about her role in the bombing of Libya and how avoidable it was. From Salon, based on a NYT's article. Hardly your left wing expose. I have to say it—it was monstrous.

http://www.salon.com/2016/03/02/even_critics_understate_how_catastrophically_bad_the_hillary_clinton_led_nato_bombing_of_libya_was/?source=newsletter

[Bubzer]

46. Hrmmm....gonna have to read that one when I get a chance.

[truthseeker1]

38. Someone on Twitter told me to wake up, that it was over, so I donated $27 :)

Made me feel so much calmer

[corbettkroehler]

43. Fabulous notion! I will do likewise! n/t

[Bubzer]

45. +1

[jillan]

39. Dying to know what pushed you to this point.... But wow! I think I will have to do this too - but -

I will need to remove the zeros

[truthseeker1]

40. Just do what you can

I'm doing small increments so I can make them more often. Especially good for when some Hillary supporter pisses you off.

[Bubzer]

44. Nothing spectacular... just a lot of little things building up to one big thing.

Kind of that whole straw-that-broke-the-camel's-back thing. A single comment is easy to blow off... but fifty.. a hundred or two...each baselessly attacking fellow with complete garbage... some of it bad enough to make a conservative flinch.

[Dustlawyer]

42. You must be talkin bout what we call "the last nerve!"

[Bubzer]

81. Right you are!

Let me just go make that change...

[Mira]

58. What a challenge.

Phenomenal Idea - may we all consider it and act on it.

[warrprayer]

62. Thank you

For donating to the only canidate I've found worthy of my hard earned dollars!

[RoccoR5955]

63. I know exactly what you mean.

I am about at the end of my rope too, but cannot afford a large donation. It'll have to be small ones every month.

[Bubzer]

80. Small ones are great too!

[Duppers]

66. I did that last night.

After their victory dance.

[Nightjock]

67. Remember that upset Clinton supporter from 2008?

I think there might be a few more like this when Bernie wins. I am really shocked at
the campaign Hillary is running. It is really turning me off toward her.

[potone]

84. Well, things didn't go her way, did they?

I very much want Bernie to win, but I have been through too many elections, and been disappointed too many times, to take anything for granted. I know that we are all focused on the primaries now, but I am getting increasingly frightened at the thought of Trump being the Republican nominee. I fear that many people will vote for him just because they are sick of the unresponsiveness of both parties to most people's needs. So I think that we should all support our candidates without becoming uncivil to those who disagree with us. Neither side will persuade anyone by being hostile and derisive to that candidate's supporters.

I don't mean this as a criticism of your post. I too am disturbed by the tone of Hillary's campaign.

[Live and Learn]

68. K&R I'll kick in a another 100 tonight too. nt

[bbgrunt]

76. great idea. Now is the time for the BIG push. We need to do all we can to make it happen!

[Enthusiast]

78. Go, Bernie!

[avaistheone1]

85. I'll donate to that!

Go Bernie!

[Betty Karlson]

86. I'm sorry you've been riled so much.

Please know there are plenty of good people who love you for who you are. May they be a balm for your last nerve.

[Bubzer]

87. Awww

Thanks for that!

[Jopin Klobe]

88. Hell of a great idea ...

[WillyT]

89. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!

[Rebkeh]

90. "You're gettin' on my last nerve!"

Lol. I sure do. Better get, mom's pissed.

I can't afford to participate with that kind of donation, but I love the idea. Fuel the bern!

[Bubzer]

96. Oooh! That was rather good: Fuel the Bern.... should totally run with that one!

[SammyWinstonJack]

92. Awesome!

[Lorien]

94. Whine from Hillary supporter on FB: " I believe that change can happen

just not in my lifetime." this in response to an article talking about how voter cynicism is the best thing that Hillary has going for her. Making a donation to Bernie now!