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This is why Hillary cannot win the general: (Original Post) silvershadow Mar 2016 OP
Plus I'm not sure you can be President from jail. revbones Mar 2016 #1
The possibility of Clinton going to jail is less than that of Sarah Palin being elected President. PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #12
Yes, but one can dream. revbones Mar 2016 #13
Not to mention.... daleanime Mar 2016 #24
True, but the specter of an indictment does little to drive voters to the polls. eom Fawke Em Mar 2016 #16
If she were to be formally indicted -- Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2016 #19
For several felonies? bernbabe Mar 2016 #22
If that continues Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2016 #2
Remember, DWS remains in charge. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #3
I'm pretty sure the wind is out of her sails. She will be taking on water any moment now. nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #4
Can't happen soon enough! I'm beginning to have nightmares. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #10
Support Tim Canova for FL's 23rd US Congressional Dist. He's primary'ing her. nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #11
DWS is actively working to expand the Democratic base. For example she's trying to bring... PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #14
Thanks! I needed that! Now I can go to bed on a laugh and with a smile! Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #15
She has no cross over appeal, and she is going to need it if she is the nominee. jillan Mar 2016 #5
And pay no attention to these Republicans saying they will vote for Hillary. silvershadow Mar 2016 #6
And even if they do - it's just a handful of elected repugs saying that - and they'd only be doing jillan Mar 2016 #7
Exactly. nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #9
Well maybe if we insult millennials some more, they'll come out for us in november. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #8
DWS must go! She isn't even pretending any more. nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #18
Guess she's buddy buddy with pay day lenders elmac Mar 2016 #23
I wonder how this would improve if people didn't think Hill had it in the bag? Fawke Em Mar 2016 #17
Scary. Nt abelenkpe Mar 2016 #20
We had more democrats running in 2008. TIME TO PANIC Mar 2016 #21
Lots of division in those GOP numbers Zambero Mar 2016 #25
What some Clinton supporters on DU fail to accept.. Docreed2003 Mar 2016 #26
 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
13. Yes, but one can dream.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:24 PM
Mar 2016

Seriously though, it's pretty obvious the FBI investigation is gaining traction now that they've given immunity to her staffer. While jail probably ain't in the picture, it's going to be a mess no matter whether you think she'll weather the storm or not.

It's just too risky to vote for her and expect to win in Nov.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
19. If she were to be formally indicted --
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:36 PM
Mar 2016

There would be serious hay made by the media and the GOPers over that, enough so that I truly believe she would be rendered unelectable. I can see them indicting her (you can get an indict for a ham sandwich, remember) but I seriously doubt she would be found guilty of anything. Still, the damage would be done and I don't believe she could recover. More reason for Bernie to hang in there.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
2. If that continues
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:02 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie won't be able to win the general either. We may be heading for President Trump no matter what happens in the primary.

Thanks, Debbie. Your plan to keep turnout down is working a charm.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
5. She has no cross over appeal, and she is going to need it if she is the nominee.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:05 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie on the other hand gets Indies and there is a large facebook group of Republicans for Bernie.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
6. And pay no attention to these Republicans saying they will vote for Hillary.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:07 PM
Mar 2016

Yes, I suppose a few might. But I mostly see this as a ploy. They've been trying to "pick the candidate" for us for years now. They've tossed her name out as if she is the serious contender (in fact, the only one) forever, even when it is apparent the momentum is elsewhere.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
7. And even if they do - it's just a handful of elected repugs saying that - and they'd only be doing
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:10 PM
Mar 2016

it as a protest vote.

On the other hand, Bernie is reaching people on all sides of the political spectrum - except the loony Trump supporters.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
8. Well maybe if we insult millennials some more, they'll come out for us in november.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:10 PM
Mar 2016

Several states are voting on marijuana legalization, too- here's an idea, how about we send DWS over to the times again to demand stricter prison sentences for pot smokers!

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
23. Guess she's buddy buddy with pay day lenders
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 01:57 AM
Mar 2016

& supports them charging triple digit interest rates. Yes, the fascist needs to go.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
17. I wonder how this would improve if people didn't think Hill had it in the bag?
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:33 PM
Mar 2016

Realizing, of course, that the general election brings out far more people, including many Independents who don't vote in the primaries, would these people be more apt to vote for Bernie - an anti-establishment candidate - if they knew they had that choice?

I think its far more likely he'd get more Independents and cross-over voters than she will.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
25. Lots of division in those GOP numbers
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 02:11 AM
Mar 2016

You have Trump bigots and authoritarians, Rubio pro-establishment types, and Cruz theocrats and movement conservatives lumped into a big unsavory stew. But GOP voters generally dislike the other candidates and a polls indicate that a HUGE number of Rubio and Cruz supportes detest Trump. The party out of power will generally field more candidates, generate more media attention, and show up in larger numbers to caucuses and primaries. The general election is a different story, and Democrats will be coming out of the woodwork. Now there is certainly some bad blood between certain Hillary and Bernie supporters but I would venture that Democrats will rally around their candidate while a higher number of Republicans will take a pass, especially with Trump or Cruz at the top of the ticket. Rubio would be their most viable candidate, but the results so far are not working in his favor, leaving a very steep hill to climb.

Docreed2003

(16,862 posts)
26. What some Clinton supporters on DU fail to accept..
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 02:43 AM
Mar 2016

Whether it is willful ignorance or blind allegiance, is that there is a significant swath of our country who not only will not vote for Sec Clinton, but will go out of their way to vote against her. Having grown up in the south and lived through the 90's, I can assure you this to be true. When it comes to GE, we all line up to talk about swing states and purple states, and that is where the rubber will be the road. The appeal of another Clinton presidency goes no further than the doorstep of the DNC. We will lose in Nov if she is the nominee. Her past and present statements, flip/flops, and personality will drive away independents who will be deciding this nomination. Now, I've seen plenty of Clinton supporters poo-poo that and give many reasons why they think it won't be so, but I think they are extremely naive.

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