Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumAs seen out there by those other people - look at this shit about Colorado.
Bernie won Colorado but Hillary has superdelegates in CO so she really tied or won Colorado.
http://www.denverpost.com/election/ci_29587219/bernie-sanders-may-not-have-won-colorado-after
Sanders easily wins popular vote across most of state, but delegate count may mean a tie
Clinton now looks likely to tie the Vermont senator 38-38 in the state's delegate count, according to projections from The Denver Post, Bloomberg Politics and The Associated Press. That includes a potential 38-28 split in Sanders' favor in projections based on Tuesday's preference poll results, plus 10 superdelegates (out of 12) who have committed to Clinton, the former secretary of state.
The potential for a split decision or worse for Sanders stands in stark contrast to celebrations by his supporters across Colorado Tuesday night.
Sanders rallied Colorado Democrats in a big way, drawing on young voters, passionate liberals and, the campaign says, big support from Latinos.
Qutzupalotl
(14,313 posts)yesterday.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)I will give her this. She will win the race to be indicted before Bernie. (Insert applause here)
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Could flip once they see the will of the people in their respective states.
Phlem
(6,323 posts)Still a long way to go.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)They've already caused the damage by choosing the opposite of their constituents. Angering Clinton supporters by changing their position probably does more damage than they can repair with Sanders supporters.
So they'll probably take a wait-and-see approach. If Clinton has the most pledged delegates at the convention, they have cover for sticking with her. If Sanders has the most pledged delegates, NH, CO, OK and MN superdelegates will be among the first to flip.
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)But they give Hillary the nomination,
This Party will look like Chicago in '68.
jillan
(39,451 posts)I can't believe this was even published in a Colorado paper.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,723 posts)They do not represent us.
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)"Resistance is futile. Your vote doesn't matter."
leftcoastmountains
(2,968 posts)I decided not to post it. Too depressing.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)DLnyc
(2,479 posts)delegate majority. The media should be reporting the pledged delegate balance, since the super-delegates historically can and will switch. Unfortunately, the media mostly reports on states won, making a big deal about 1% wins (which are simply a virtual tie for delegates) and misleadingly reporting counts including super-delegates, who will almost surely go with the popular decision in the end.
At least at DU, we ought to be focusing on the pledged delegate count, not on states or on the super-delegates.
And the pledged delegate count, as near as I can gather at this moment, is:
Total pleadged delegates: 4051
Hillary Clinton won so far (3/2/15): 594
Bernie Sanders won so far (3/2/15): 405
(This from, yuk, RCP and seems to leave a small number, 14, of delegates still uncounted from last Tuesday's votes.)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/democratic_delegate_count.html
corbettkroehler
(1,898 posts)The Clinton campaign focuses very seldom on the count of pledged delegates. When it spins her victories, the narrative mostly is about the popular vote. Additionally, the mainstream media uses the popular vote almost exclusively in order to measure momentum.
This approach cuts both ways. Yes, the delegate count will be the most important detail at the convention. However, in terms of getting out the vote in future states, momentum will be the top issue and, in the Midwest, it's Berniementum.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Then at the convention, held later in the summer, the supers vote to side with the Presidential candidate who won the overall primary campaign.
This is why Bernie doesn't talk about the superdelegates at all.
Way too early to even work up a sweat over it.
Bernie doesn't even need to court any of the supers yet, because party loyalty is what made them superdelegates to begin with.
Hillary had lots of supers back in 2008.
A lot of them committed to her campaign before the primaries even started.
Representatives like John Lewis.
Yet, he switched and sided with then-Senator Obama after Obama had won more of the primaries and caucuses than Hillary did.
All of the supers sided with then-Senator Obama to put him over the top in 2008, and made him the nominee for President for the Democratic party.
Don't trust the MSM to talk about the campaign, or to publish totals for delegates if they include ANY superdelegates.
Autumn Colors
(2,379 posts)By then, I'm sure there will have been many more developments by the FBI, too, so whichever way THAT goes may also play into it. If Bernie has more pledged delegates but it's very close, they're going to have to weigh the status of that investigation and how it might affect the GE and choose who they support accordingly.